cross-posted from: https://infosec.pub/post/45169245

DB = Dropbox, OD = Onedrive

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[–] 49 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (8 children)

What is an “AI storage service”?

Does that mean you just store your info in AI weights/contexts and hope it can regenerate an approximation of what you put in?

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  • [–] 35 points 4 months ago* (5 children)

    It's s3 compatible storage (b2) you sell to companies using AI for twice as much.

    b2 storage is $6/Tb/mo, AI storage is b2 storage at $15/Tb/mo.

    https://www.backblaze.com/cloud-storage/pricing

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  • [–] 35 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    It’s like selling special gold shovels during a gold rush that are better at shoveling gold.

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  • [–] 29 points 4 months ago (10 children)

    Uhg. Where do I go now? I really just ultimately want encrypted zfs replication...

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  • [–] 19 points 4 months ago

    Just price out S3 compatible storage and use backup software that can encrypt. Then it doesn't matter who holds it.

    Wasabi is reputable and has fair pricing. iDrive is well priced.

    I'm still sending to B2 until the price actually changes for me.

    I personally use Duplicati (and yes I've tested restores).

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  • [–] 9 points 4 months ago (7 children)

    rsync.net offers ZFS send/receive and I’ve been using it for 5 years now, it’s pretty great. It’s not super expensive per GB, but they ask a minimum of 5TB if you want native ZFS support, which is $60/month.

    You get access to a full FreeBSD VM which is very nice, because you can do things like metrics or a “pull” setup that pulls backups from your machines, so you’re more resilient against stuff like ransomware.

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  • [–] 9 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    This would increase my yearly cost from $99 to over 10k

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  • [–] 7 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    You have over 70TB of data you want to backup? That’s a lot. How are you making backups of that for only 99/year?

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    I have a 190TB NAS, and Backblaze is $99 for unlimited. At least it was until now

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    [–] 21 points 4 months ago

    Backblaze is a service I really depend on, and one I've recommended. However they're still not profitable and investor money isnt going to keep them afloat forever.

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  • [–] 16 points 4 months ago

    Just when you think AI isn't ruining something, it's ruining something.

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  • [–] 16 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    The changes come as the company has experienced a 40X year-over-year increase in AI data stored on its servers and has increased focus on its accelerating AI business.

    If this means they just want to throttle AI companies, I don’t care. Go forth and prosper BackBlaze.

    If it doesn’t, statement retracted.

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  • [–] 15 points 4 months ago

    Enshittification strikes again.

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  • [–] 14 points 4 months ago (7 children)

    If you aren’t running it yourself, you’ll always be held hostage by toxic companies!

    Time and time again, from account closures to account locking… if you value anything, you should really look at self hosting it. Yes it’s a learning curve, but now is actually a good time because you have claude to help, but don’t expect that to last!

    I am and will only ever use the free tier of claude but even that is actually pretty useful. Just don’t reuse the same chat, create new ones, delete ones no longer needed and you rarely hit the usage limits.

    I’ve used claude to get my own AI server running on a low power beelink PC and while i’m still learning, it runs pretty well so Imcan now bounce between my own AI, to claude for the few issues I can’t solve.

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  • [–] [S] 12 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    I agree in general about self-hosting, but backup seems like a special case. Where do you back up your self-hosted data? An offsite copy of the backup is needed, and it should be automatic. For most people (who only have one site, their home) that's not easy to arrange except through a cloud backup service.

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago*

    In my case I work with a family member in another city. We connect via VPN (tailscale works well too if you prefer that) and push the data we want to backup. Something like nextcloud could be used too, although a regular file explorer works just fine once you're connected.

    Now mind you it's mostly family photos, so not petabytes of data.

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    [–] 8 points 4 months ago* (2 children)

    Best solution is still a second NAS at a friends home.

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  • [–] 8 points 4 months ago*

    I decided against Backblaze for server backups because they charge for certain API calls, and I ended up exceeding the quota when I was testing with the free tier. I was experimenting with encrypted backups and not sure how I exceeded it, but it really put me off that I could potentially have a surprise bill from experimenting without exceeding my storage quota. I went with iDrive e2 specifically because they don’t have API fees and it has worked fine the last couple years. My storage utilization has grown and I’ve been charged extra, which is expected, whereas API calls would be harder to predict depending on what I do in a given month. For self-hosting, I want easy, predictable pricing and don’t want to deal with surprise bills. It’s enough of a chore to manage cloud spend at work without it being a headache at home too.

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  • [–] 7 points 4 months ago

    Thanks for the acronym definitions, it's like they wanted to report these news without really reporting it..

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  • [–] 14 points 4 months ago

    I use borgbase. It's not the same, but it's cheap and not stored in the US.

    I just set up a launchd task on my Mac to run my Borg jobs and I never have to think about it. You could do the same with systemd on linux. If you're on Windows why are you still on Windows?

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  • Well that sucks. I use Backblaze and it has saved my ass more than once.

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago*

    It should be noted that this affects their BackBlaze backup client that operates alongside their unlimited personal storage solution. I doubt these issues exist with B2 storage where you can store whatever you want.

    I’ve never used their personal backup plan because it’s for backing up a single machine. I have servers all over so I just use them for their S3 compatible object storage which is still a decent deal.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago

    Basically moved 5TB away from Backblaze when they started raising their prices... greedy fucks, every one of them

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