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[–] 156 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Webp

Developed by google, for google products.

Not guaranteed to work with google products (looking at you google voice.)

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    [–] 138 points 2 years ago* (6 children)

    You get the exact same quality at around ~25% smaller than other image formats. Unfortunate that it’s not supported by everything, but yeah it’s a better image format practically in that sense.

    On the web this saves money when storing at a large scale, and it can have a significant impact on page speed when loading websites on slower connections.

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  • [–] 24 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    My problem is the way it's packaged as a link to a website that hosts the jpeg image. Saving, modifying, and using the image file becomes impossible in some workflows. Imagine a future where you get fined for stealing memes. I bet they could make the image file size even smaller without all of that bullshit added in, until then I'm just using an extension to convert to png (which results in loss btw).

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    [–] 81 points 2 years ago (11 children)

    People just really need to support it. It's far better than jpg or png. It's the go-to for web right now, that's for sure.

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  • [–] 31 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Not better than jpegXL which has clearer free licensing.

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    As someone who has had to put together websites:

    • It is supported by every major browser
    • It is halving the amount of your mobile data that I am using sending you images (With lossy compression it does even better)
    • It is decreasing my network egress costs
    • It is increasing the number of connections I can serve in a given time period

    Nope I am not going to stop using this or AVIF (which does better)

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  • [–] 74 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    It's straight up better though

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    [–] 56 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children)

    Is this the latest hate trend? Is it that time of the year again?

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    [–] 46 points 2 years ago* (7 children)

    The problem is rather the opposite of the meme. The file format is fine, but there is so little effort into making it happen.

    If we were trying then I should be able to upload webp images everywhere. The most egregious is websites that will convert jpg and png uploads to webp but don't allow webp upload.

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    [–] 42 points 2 years ago* (3 children)

    I've personally used webp for when I need lossy compression with alpha channel. What good alternatives are there? Png is not lossy and jpeg does not support alpha. Is JXL better than WebP? AVIF? JPEG2000?

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    [–] 40 points 2 years ago

    I host my own server for playing TTRPGs on and webp saves me a lot of storage space and bandwidth.

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  • [–] 32 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    WebP is awesome. So is JPEG-XL.

    JPEG and PNG are archaic and should die already.

    .jxl is also coming btw

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    [–] 29 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I haven't had an issue with webp support myself, kinda surprised to see people stating it like it happens all the time

    The only tool I've used that didn't support it was the FOMOD creation tool when making some small Starfield foods, and that actually DID support webp, it just threw an error but would show the image and mod managers would load it no problem

    Or is this an example of the difference between people who use Linux and Windows regularly?

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  • [–] 22 points 2 years ago*

    Want that cool image as a background? Whoops.

    Want to use that image with that nifty ML tool you downloaded? Uh oh.

    That random web service at least five years old with an upload field for an image? Roll the dice; win on snake eyes.

    Want to use that picture as an avatar in a forum that isn't that popular? Hmmm.

    How about that WordPress blog of yours? Hopefully on 5.8 or better; otherwise unsupported natively.

    Would you like thumbnails on these downloads in your favorite Linix distro? Uh, maybe; Ubuntu didn't get it until 22.10.

    How about Windows? Well, 11 is fine, but 10 needs an extension.

    None of this can't be overcome with some effort, but it's kind of painful right now.

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  • [–] 26 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Webp is superior to jpg and far smaller than png. Making a map tile that has transparency and is bigger than 20x20 grid squares leaves you the choice between a huge png or a tiny webp. VTTs like foundry have best practice guidelines re image sizes and formats and it is simply not possible to follow these using png unless the map in question is tiny, and if you ignore them and just go for a huge png your players may be faced with lag, longer loading times etc.

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    [–] 22 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    I use an extension that automatically converts it. I can't stand webp

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    [–] 18 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

    If jpg and png were good enough for dialup, they're good enough for gigabit.

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    [–] 18 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    From someone using foundry, please continue to use webp and webm... Foundry easily supports it and the file sizes are much smaller making them take up much less space on my server. And upload faster, and load faster for me and my players, and let me upload larger maps for my players as they render easier.

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    [–] 17 points 2 years ago

    I just use ImageMagick

    mogrify -format png *.webp

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