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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Will she be funded by Donald Trump again like in 2016?

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[–] [email protected] 96 points 1 year ago (3 children)

She will once again campaign only in states where it is possible to flip to Trump. Instead of safer states where she could get 5% of the vote and thus qualify for matching funds for the green party.

That is how you know it's completely bullshit and she is being run as a spoiler candidate for Trump.

Well that and the picture of her and Michael Flynn sitting at Putins table at a Russian state dinner in December of 2015.

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[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 year ago (67 children)

Until we get ranked choice voting or similar the Green Party is a joke with zero chance of election. Voting for them only helps Republicans at this point in time.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago (1 children)

ranked choice voting because i'd choose a chupacabra's cloaca over trump. but jill stein is just here to talk and distract. she has a platform, she can use it, she doesn't have to make shit worse.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Chupacabra's cloaca.

There are at least three truly cursed combinations of words out there in the world that most only see a handful of times throughout their lifespan. They are both forbidden and beautiful in their execution.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is this the first election in American history with more Russian candidates than American ones?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Hexbear has assured me that RussiaGate was a hoax, so, no.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (63 children)

Let's see:

  • Fascism is calling from inside the house
  • All of the Republican candidates are fascists
  • The Supreme Court is stacked with Federalist Society-bred Christian Originalists.
  • Trump is likely going to be the Republican nominee

And here's Jill, like, "Mmm, yeah. Now's a good time to try to split the vote."

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (5 children)
[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

Putin"s other bitch

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because of course she does.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

This old donkey needs to ride off into the sunset. This is a spoiler campaign.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Russian pawns gonna pawn

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

How 'bout No?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

No thanks. I'll vote who is likely to win based on mathematics with weighs on preference on top and those I prefer on the downballot. Do this enough time, and there will be a split between progressives and moderates when conservatives eventually become ineffective minority.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wasn't she the dividing vote for democrats in the 2016 election?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Hillary being a shitty candidate is what caused 2016

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

She sounds good on paper, but not much else. Needs to stay off the stage.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I cast a Jill Stein protest vote in 2012 because Obama had a lock on my state, and I felt like Obama and the Dems in general had strayed too far to the right. Obviously, Obama won my state and the presidency, which is what I actually wanted. I just felt like we could move the Dems to the left by showing them they were leaving votes on the table. That does not work. I can get into why, but the basics are that third parties only act as spoilers.

In any case, Jill Stein is a terrible candidate on paper. All she does is mouth the dream set of policies a lot of us would love, but has no program to achieve them, she has no experience picking staff or running a large organization, she has all the charisma of a rotten banana, and she refused to throw down against anti-vax because it’d alienate half her base.

I’m for a serious Green Party in the US - one that is actually oriented towards governing. The Greens internationally are a real party, not the party equivalent of Vermin Supreme.

Honestly, most of the US agrees with the Greens on a lot of issues, and they could make enough of a big tent that a seriously (constructed and funded) Green Party could probably take multiple seats in the House, at the very least. They could caucus with the Dems, but try to pull things left. They’d work like the Squad, or Bernie and Warren. Between the coasts and the big cities, they could probably swing ten or more seats.

But instead we get Jill, yet again. Honestly, I’d like to see an investigation of her Trump-like election challenging fundraising.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

They rarely even run in down ticket elections.

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