Is it issues detecting and tracking? Seems like radar guided gun systems should shred shaheeds but perhaps I'm missing something.

I can see the difficulties tracking quad copter / fpv drones... anyone have insight?

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[–] 47 points 6 months ago (7 children)

Its a similar problem in the cold war aircraft. They fly low, so the time for detection, identification, targeting and shooting is quite short. The gun can shoot out to a few km, but can only see low flying targets out to a few hundred meters.

Gun systems only really work if you are defending a position targeting by the drone. Even then, you need a very large number of guns as each gun system only has an effective bubble of a few hundred meters against low flying drones.

Ukraine has been doing very well with audio based detection to give advanced warning and using man portable weapons to shoot down drones. Russian drones have since started flying higher, which then opens then up radar detection, bigger gun systems and interceptor drones.

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  • [–] [S] 11 points 6 months ago (6 children)

    Ukraine has been doing very well with audio based detection to give advanced warning and using man portable weapons to shoot down drones.

    I wonder what would be required to detect the smaller targets at further ranges. Audio networks with large distribution might work...

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  • [–] 22 points 6 months ago* (2 children)

    We've come full circle

    Used in early WW2 to listen for planes, pre radar

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago

    Different but the greeks when besieged were known to drive stakes of brass with a thing brass plate above ground attatched to it at intervals, then they could see the vibrations from anyone tunneling under, what do they call it, sapping, they dig under, then burn the supports and collapse a section of wall to breach the city.

    One incident the greeks made a chemical weapon out of chicken feathers and chicken shit and charcoal and lit it and threw it down there after they counter tunneled into them after seeing their vibrations.

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  • [–] 14 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    It's simply a numbers game. Gepards are very effective against Shaheds but they only have a range of a few kilometres. You'd need hundreds to protect a major city. Those numbers just don't exist.

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  • [–] 6 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    because you can have anti-drone shotgun blyat! (serious concept sold as serious ppl)

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  • [–] [S] 18 points 6 months ago* (3 children)

    blyat!

    that thing but with Saiga shotties

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago (6 children)

    It seems more that drone combat is relatively new and we haven't seen the iteration for drone combat that other weapons systems have had.

    It could be guns, drones, signal interference, or something else entirely.

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 6 months ago (5 children)

    valid..... and if they focus everything on air we'll have ground and subterranean drones to contend with shortly.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    We already have some forms of ground based drones. I don't see subterranean drones any time soon given the state of art in various forms of excavation.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago* (5 children)

    Microwaves are faster than bullets

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 5 months ago (4 children)

    anyone using mw weapons on either side? genuinely curious.

    herf guns?

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 5 months ago (2 children)

    nifty. wonder how well it works

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Not sure how much is militariaganda, but there was a dude slinging one of these around during a couple of big diplomatic events in the past couple of years, so probably partially effective at the very least.

    Oh and there's also whatever aircraft mounted variant that the americans used when they invaded venezuela, the one that made Maduro's guards "bleed from the eyes, ears and nose", while describing feeling like someone had parked a car on their head.

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  • [–] [S] 3 points 5 months ago

    Oh and there’s also whatever aircraft mounted variant that the americans used when they invaded venezuela, the one that made Maduro’s guards “bleed from the eyes, ears and nose”, while describing feeling like someone had parked a car on their head.

    to me that's shades of the devices that caused Havana Syndrome all over again

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