The Republican president has previously referred to fallen American service personnel as “suckers” and “losers.” He has never served in the military, having in fact dodged the Vietnam War draft on five occasions. The last of those owed to a bone spur diagnosis. It’s a condition that usually affects elderly individuals. He was 22 at the time.

Trump has similarly threatened to invade U.S. allies Panama, Canada, Colombia, Mexico, and Greenland, which is an autonomous territory of Denmark, a fellow NATO member.

The MAGA president’s growing, campaign-promise-busting appetite for military engagement also comes amid his bitter disappointment at being passed over for last year’s Nobel Peace Prize, despite a concerted public and private push by his allies. It was previously awarded to his Democratic predecessor, President Barack Obama.

In a letter regarding that snub, Trump wrote to Norwegian Prime Minister Jonas Gahr Støre in January that “considering your Country decided not to give me the Nobel Peace Prize for having stopped 8 Wars PLUS, I no longer feel an obligation to think purely of Peace.”

The Norwegian government is not affiliated with the Nobel Committee, which decides independently to whom it will grant its awards. Trump’s claim to have stopped eight wars remains highly disputed.

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[–] 142 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Nothing more American than a draft dodger sending others to die.

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  • [–] 33 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    Calling it now:

    Trump is going to sign an EO to bring back the draft, and congress is just gonna let it happen.

    And it this is anything like Russia and Ukraine, and it is (the US being Russia), hell expand the age of the draft as the war gets worse and worse.

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  • [–] 16 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    It could happen, but I doubt it. The last time the US had a legitimate anti-war movement, it was in large part due to the draft.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago* (1 child)

    Do you think they'd care at all this time? They don't even bother giving us a fake justification nowadays

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  • [–] 6 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Yes.

    Republicans in particular don't give a shit about something until it affects them or their family/friends/ingroup.

    So far the horrors of the last year haven't actually directly affected that many Americans. Or it's abstract enough that it's easy for people (mostly morons, which we have a crazy number of) not to connect the dots.

    When people start getting drafted in significant numbers, that'd actually have impact.

    A rapid economic downturn would do a whole lot more.

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  • [–] 51 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    There's strong Farquaad vibes here..

    Some of you may die, but that's a sacrifice I'm willing to make

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    Normally, if they're gonna invade shit, they stage the invasion forces, meaning tanks and grunts, at least in the theater.

    All I've heard about is two carrier groups, which is a lot, but it's not going to invade anything. I also heard that one of the carriers deployed with broken shitters, so that's got to be going great.

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  • [–] 8 points 6 months ago

    The US military has been skittish on regime change since Vietnam, but had a lot of those points reinforced by Iraq and Afghanistan.

    The Trump administration is using the military more like Reagan used it, make some quick attacks combined with spy operations and manipulate the chaos to get diplomatic goals achieved. The US doesn't want to own the rebuilding effort since that is the costly part.

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  • [–] 14 points 6 months ago

    Can we give Iran that draft dodging kid toucher to them as a peace treaty instead?

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  • [–] 13 points 6 months ago

    Trump’s claim to have stopped eight wars remains highly disputed.

    Disputed? Can't we just say he lied. It's the truth. He lied. He always lies.

    Even The Daily Beast is shying away from using real language here.

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    Saying no one wants this is a lie. First Israel-firsters want this, the military industrial complex, Lindsay Graham & the neocons, Trump, Fetterman (what a joke), soon to be MGP & all the AIPAC funded Democrats. You won't see most Democrats doing a damn thing about this... Don't forget they can file the paperwork tomorrow asking for a TRO in federal court regarding abuse of war powers. Federal Judges are what has stopped Trump's illegal actions many of times. But they'll conveniently "forget" that is an option & most Americans believe whatever corporate media sells them.

    Democrats will make excuses that their hands are tied, just like they made excuses why they needed to support genocide & why Democrats doing nothing or being hypocritical is okay. You'll see them on here, they swarm Lemmy looking to attack anyone that doesn't submit to the party. I'm pretty sure the fascism claims by them were projection all along. I get death threats & death wishes by them on here regularly. They say, you didn't vote for my candidate & therefore you deserve to die.

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  • [–] -3 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    You are wrong on that last part

    In accordance with Nobel's will, the prize is selected by the Norwegian Nobel Committee, a five-member committee appointed by the Parliament of Norway unlike all the other awards chosen by the Swedish Nobel Committee.

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  • [–] 7 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

    The Norwegian government is not affiliated with the Nobel Committee, which decides independently to whom it will grant its awards. Trump’s claim to have stopped eight wars remains highly disputed.

    Edit: from that wiki page:

    Despite its members being appointed by Parliament, the committee is a private body tasked with awarding a private prize. In recent decades, most committee members were retired politicians.

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