Imagine paying some rando to rent their computer. You can totally trust them, right? They're not in the Epstein files, right?
I'm never using a cloud to play games, that's just stupid.
You will own nothing and you will be happy. 😀
Wasn't that what the capitalists claimed communists wanted to do?
At least that was happy - seems now it's "you will own nothing and it'll keep getting worse, so number go up".
For everyone being all fatalistic and the whole 'there is nothing you can do' approach. Vote with your wallet. No money for them means no power for them.
We are the customer, not their bitch. If they don't provide value, they receive none in return. They go broke and someone else will provide the service we all want.
No way the junkies will quit playing early-access AAA titles at any point, no matter the cost.
Exactly this
It's not the informed customer that is in control.
The sheeple that will shill out money endlessly are the ones in control. The ones buying lootboxes instead of paying their mortgage are the ones in control. The idiots are in control.
There's more old, retro and indie games out there than you could ever finish. If the situation will get worse people will start sharing install files on offline media like decades ago with movies. Don't worry, it's going to be great.
My backlog is so large that it would take forever to get through. I have no need to upgrade my setup to play more modem games.
Some new consoles don't offer physical media anymore, and some games aren't able to be played without an Internet connection and a yearly account charge? I just won't play them, then.
The only reason you should ever cloud gaming is building your own cloud, e.g., with Moonlight, Steam Link.
Im a late 80s early 90s gamer so I don’t know what any of that means
Imagine accessing your own PC remotely from a different machine like tech support does occasionally but instead of fixing stuff you do it to play games. That way you can use your gaming rig in another room or on the go without physically moving it as long as you have fast internet on both ends.
Think: X-Server forwarding over LAN
Any noticeable latency and I won't even give something a chance to try it. Needing to send my inputs over the internet, wait for them to get processed, and then have the video output streamed back to my local setup means even a small amount of latency. 40ms (which is what I expect for my connection in online gaming servers) would kill the experience of many games, especially rhythm games or other high-reflex games like the entire fighting game genre. Some stuff like Turn Based RPGs could possibly benefit from cloud gaming for users with underperforming hardware, but that's it. Strong ~~No Thanks~~ F*** Off from me when it comes to cloud gaming.
Back in the early 2010s there was this cloud gaming service called OnLive which I thought was actually pretty neat. I played a couple action games and there wasnt really any noticeable latency. Idk what kind of wizardry they use but for most games they can probably make it work.
Of course rhythm games and fighting games specifically will probably never be playable through streaming, but those are basically unplayable at anything but the highest possible performance.
Good. It should feel bad.
The second half Yea but there is nothing wrong with cloud Gaming as an idea itself Which is why people Like Sunshine/moonshine or whatever its called
People who cloud game feed the decline. It's also funny that they end up paying more on the whole while also giving them access to more metrics and personal data on your habits they can profit off of.
For an also worse experience that they don't even get to keep.
I'll stop playing before that happens
Good thing I have a decent Xbox 360 collection so I guess Don Mattrick was right all along.
I'd rather play only board games and TRRPGs for the rest of my days.
I miss having people that I can play board games with
What happened to them?
most of them have spouses and kids now.
I'll never do cloud gaming/computing.
If a cloud server becomes the only way to play the newest releases, I'm never playing the newest releases again. That's fine. There are more games between 1980 and 2025 than I have years of life available to play.
If you can't build a desktop and must rent an Amazon computing instance, I'm not doing computing anymore. That's fine, people lived for thousands of years without computers, I don't need computers to eat.
Playstation Plus was the last streaming service I used. The titles were garbage and so was the quality. I don't know why I ever bothered when I've got thousands of games archived locally. I'll go back to dumpster diving office PCs before I ever use a virtual instance again.
This is me with everything right now because of AI. There is a thousand of books, music, videogames, comics, movies that are before 2020 that I haven't read, listen, play and so on.
My biggest regret is going with 32 of instead of 64GB of DDR5, when I built a new Ryzen 7000 PC in 2022 to replace my aging 4th gen i5.
But what I don't regret is ignoring everyone telling me not to do all sorts of unspeakable things to snag a $1600 4090 at launch, especially given that it was never sold that cheaply ever again. It's a beast of a card and I'll easily get a decade of gaming out of it. Saw 4090s going for over $3K used on eBay lately, so yeah I'm happy with making what was a dumb decision at the time.
I also regret going with 64GB 3200 instead of 128GB 3600, which I thought I would just save up for.
GPUs were already hardly available.
Unfortunately, 4090 is already going into the obsolescence by power cable fire hazard territory. Keep your eye on it as it ages.
It's been over 3 years now and I haven't had a single issue. I made sure to plug in the 12VHPR cable all the way and avoid bending it. I also made sure to buy a top tier PCIe 5 PSU.
The issue was vastly blown out of proportion. Don't be an idiot and you have nothing to worry about.
As a fellow owner, that's what they want us to think. Feel safe, but then out of nowhere your house burns down and then you have to buy a new card.
I can’t lie, I saw some eBay listing for 4090s when the 5090 came out for like 1300 and was tempted.
Do not give in. If you can't play it on your machine, do not play it. There are other games, and if all else fails, other hobbies that do respect you.
If cloud gaming is all that's available, read books, go for walks, hang out with friends instead. Do what we did before the internet. Do not let them win, stop using it.
I said the same for Amazon (personally ordered 1 item from Amazon, received maybe 5 items from Amazon as gifts, I otherwise do not use them but I am 1 insignificant point well outside the graph) and expect the same results
Certain hobbies just aren't supported locally anymore. And if they are they're at ridiculously inflated prices. I always check nearby first but 90% of the time I end up ordering online. Half the time when I do, the place I order from charges 10-15 dollars for shipping, or redirects to Amazon to complete the order anyway.
I put a lot of work in to not using Amazon, and frequently find myself with little else in the way of choice. I fucking hate it.
Can run on a tiny computer, all your games and saved on local disk, compatible with retro achievements org, save state hotkeys, use basically any USB controller, etc. I use it more than any modern console I've bought in years.
If I cant own it, then I cant steal it.
Yar har.
This doesn't follow. Even a thin client will have enough RAM to provide more gaming entertainment than you could possibly enjoy in a lifetime.
Remember, things got this shitty because most people were fine with Big Tech gradually making things shittier. I look back and realize I've been waiting for the One Enormous Dealbreaker for over a decade, but consumers keep moving the red line.
I don't think it's just the ignorance of consumers. Big tech knows a lot about how to activate our endorphine centers. Things seem to be great and then gradually enshittify. It's a bit like the metaphor of the frog in hot water.
If there is no ownership then there is no stealing/pirating by sailing the high seas.
Something to be said about ttrpgs and board games with friends and family. Corpos can’t sequester that into a rental only model.
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