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[–] 88 points 8 months ago (6 children)

gnome style is too rounded for me hurts my eyes when i see it

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  • [–] 35 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    I dislike GTK because it looks clunky and dated to me. I need glassy blur effects on all windows.

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  • [–] 44 points 8 months ago (13 children)

    at least kde has some ui density, gtk5/6 is atrocious on lowres displays

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  • [–] 16 points 8 months ago (7 children)
  • [–] 10 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (6 children)

    oh bruh i meant gtk4/5 haha sorry

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  • [–] 8 points 8 months ago (4 children)
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  • [–] 30 points 8 months ago* (12 children)

    i just can't stand gnome anymore, it was my favorite for a long time too. KDE is fine but I fucking hate Dolphin. I'm into Cosmic right now but I'm not sure I like the file manager

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  • [–] 25 points 8 months ago* (5 children)

    Interesting, dolphin is by far my favorite file manager. What don't you like about it?

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  • [–] 10 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    I'd have to use it again to tell you, to be honest. It's been couple months since I last did and so my memory is a little foggy except for my dislike. I remember not liking how tabs work and how it took a bunch of tinkering to make it less annoying.

    on a machine that I ran for years, i basically did kde but with a different file manager, that was wonky and presented it's own problems but it wasn't Dolphin so I was satisfied

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  • [–] 8 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    on a machine that I ran for years, i basically did kde but with a different file manager

    Might've been PCManFM-Qt, which is also used by LXQt: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PCMan_File_Manager
    At least, that's another Qt file manager I know of.

    Well, or it was Krusader: https://krusader.org/
    But Krusader is funky, i.e. similar to Total Commander and GNU Midnight Commander...

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    [–] 24 points 8 months ago*

    I prefer kiki but you know, whatever...

    see

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  • [–] 20 points 8 months ago* (16 children)

    It actually hurt me a little how they made a perfectly wellade GTK app into a QT mess for no reason whatsoever. But oh well, I don't maintain it and it's not my place to complain much about it Β―\_(ツ)_/Β―

    Like it still remains usable

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  • [–] 32 points 8 months ago (11 children)

    You can read about the reasoning here.

    Basically using GTK alone became a lot of unenjoyable work for them because they didn't want to depend on libadwaita and since its something they do for free in their free time it has to be fun.

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  • [–] 12 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    having targetted both Qt api and the new Libadwaita api, this is going to happen more and more. the new GTK APIs are a pain in the ass and it's pretty clear they only target GNOME, and since GNOME 4, there's been no guarantee of API backwards compatiblity. it's a nightmare.

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    So what you're saying is gnome is a self solving problem

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    they took all the wrong lessons from NodeJS and have slowly been making themselves irrelevant outside of bleeding edge and rolling release distros. from the GNOME devolopers i've talked to, they don't see this as any of their concern because they're still the leading desktop environmnet, however, more and more i see Qt becoming the general development target, and i don't see that changing unless GNOME starts treating Gtk as something GNOME is built around rather than as something that makes developing GNOME apps easy. KD, and LXDE together make up more of the user desktops than GNOME, XFCE, and Cinnamon, and GNOME is the only one of those that even supports the latest versions of Gtk.

    they've been alienating users for 15 years now, and they refuse to change course. i don't think it will be long until KDE is the leading desktop environment purely because GNOME refuses to treat critiques of their desktop as legitimate concerns from frustrated users rather than as opportunities to create something better. it will eventually get to a point where only the people who treat Richard Stallman as a religious figure will still be around

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Yeah, the thing that bothers me about GNOME isn't the design, that's not for me but whatever, it's the attitude the project takes to collaboration and refusing to compromise on anything that would be useful for literally every other desktop in stuff like Wayland protocols

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago

    yuuup! then when other devs get fed up and align themselves with other toolkits, GNOME's adherents complain about the fracturing nature of desktop. and it's like… self reflect! realize who fractured it! change your attitude!

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  • [–] 8 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Not sure I follow. Which app?

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    I'd be fine with it, but I had to pin the flatpak to an old release for now, because the redesign fucked up the migration, deleted all my presets and also caused issues with voice chat apps not getting any audio input. The new UI is also unquestionably a downgrade and less accessible when it comes to setting slider values, but I hope that can be fixed with time. I certainly don't blame FOSS devs for their work.

    Btw. seeing some of the comments in here: is it the fate of all Linux shitposting forums to be filled with hardliners who really care what software you install on you Linux system? Let me use my GTK apps in peace. I don't need opinions on UI cleanliness and density from people who don't even use easyeffects, because my god, is it a mess currently.

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  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago (2 children)
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    I'm just glad the fallback preset setting finally exists. Means I can tune my laptop speakers but default to a "clean" empty preset for any other device. Dev said that the feature wasn't gonna happen until the Qt version was the main version. Under the GTK version I had to manually add an entry for every new audio device

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago

    Great questions for those distro chooser surveys...

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago

    I like how dolphin can do checksums in the GUI

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