there is no current word on their condition as the situation is evolving, but i am expecting both to be dead and hope to be wrong. either way, ICE nazis are committed to upholding fascism at the expense of human lives. we are more unsafe now than we’ve been before in this administration. ICE does not view any of us as exceptions. we will be slaughtered if Der Führer demands it.

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[–] 151 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I'm local enough to have heard the sirens. Local word is wounded, not killed.

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  • [–] 87 points 8 months ago (29 children)

    Well that didn't take long, how long before this is found to be lies top to bottom?

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  • [–] 145 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    'Weaponized their vehicle' seems to be ICE's favorite excuse per some stat I saw earlier in the day...

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  • [–] 38 points 8 months ago

    Doesn't matter what you do, they'll claim you were a threat...

    The only exception is carrying a big fuck off rifle yourself, because then you're actually a threat.

    I've never seen a video or heard of an event where American law enforcement murdered a civilian while sympathetic protesters carrying rifles were within line of sight.

    We all know they're cowards. We'd be stupid not to do the one thing that prevents overreach.

    Bunch of tootsie pops running around talking about an owl infestation, you only get licked a couple times till you get cracked

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  • [–] [S] 61 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    this is contributing to the false narrative that ICE is legitimate. they aren’t. they should have never been established and must be abolished. not only that but their current iteration is acting on illegal orders by a fascist dictator president. even if what they’re saying is true it doesn’t justify their actions because they shouldn’t fucking be there in the first place.

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  • [–] 20 points 8 months ago

    they should have never been established and must be abolished.

    It's wild how many people legitimately don't know it didn't exist 25 years ago...

    Like, obviously we don't need it, it's practically brand new for a federal agency. The only reason it's as big as it is, is we e been rotating between neoliberals and republicans for 30 years, while both groups moved right.

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  • [–] 19 points 8 months ago*

    It's an entire agency that is 90% staffed with tactical units enforcing MISDEMEANOR civil infractions that the supreme court gave unlimited authority because their scope of work was narrow to the limit where normal people shouldn't ever encounter them.

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  • [–] 43 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    "fearing for his life", unfortunately they're all about to understand what that really means if things get more out of hand across the country

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  • [–] 42 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    I feel like they inherently lose any legitimacy when using emotive language like "vicious" in official statements from a public body

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  • [–] 20 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Its not a lie, there's a formal point system to determine whether someone is associated with Tren de Aragua. 8 points means they're definitely a part of the gang.

    It's 3 points for being in the US without documentation, 6 points for associating with any known members and 2 points for any social media posts containing "associated references".

    Practically every Venezuelan is part of the gang according to the DoJ. So it's not a lie, just guilt by association.

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  • [–] 17 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    When are they going to arrest the kiddie rapist and human trafficker in the White House?

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    [–] 78 points 8 months ago

    I’m pretty sure they’re about to start killing whoever they don’t like. I’m sure palantir has a list ready to go

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  • [–] 67 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    If they just keep shooting more and more people, people will forget the outrage at shooting the last person

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  • [–] 51 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    If a car IS headed towards you (that isn’t even proven yet) shooting it will not stop it from hitting you. The entire premise of the argument they’re trying to make is faulty.

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  • [–] 44 points 8 months ago

    There's no such thing as a "defensive shot" at a moving vehicle. Your bullet isn't going to stop a car. All it does is to change a guided vehicle into an unguided vehicle.

    That's why US law enforcement agencies have policies that one should only shoot at someone in a moving vehicle if they would be an imminent danger to others if allowed to flee.

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  • [–] 34 points 8 months ago (5 children)

    What I'm hearing lately is that these officers are constantly shooting people because they are afraid. If you're such a scaredy cat, maybe you should get a desk job or be a Wal Mart greeter.

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  • [–] 13 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    "agents", not "officers". Officers have training and qualifications.

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago*

    Some training sure, but a house painter has more.

    Not to denigrate house painters, but if they really fuck up, a wall looks like shit, and if an officer fucks up, a flashbang gets tossed into a crib in a completely different house than the one they had a warrent for.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    ICE agents are federal law enforcement officers, working under the DHS.

    Anyone calling ICE agents 'officers' is stating fact.

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  • [–] 33 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Anyone else noticed they're starting this stuff in the deep blue states with tight gun regulations and assault weapon bans?

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  • [–] 11 points 8 months ago

    These gestapo pieces of trash should get the same treatment as the "I WaS OnLY FOlLoWiNg OrDeRs" treatment the Nazis got. Trial and... well... it doesn't end well for them.

    Exactly as it fucking should end.

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  • [–] 10 points 8 months ago*

    Imagine how many people they point their guns at every day. After the most recent shooting, it is probably triggering the flight response to everyone they point at so much more then it already was.

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  • [–] 8 points 8 months ago

    One kind of whistle for these motherfuckers, and it ain't on a lanyard around my beck

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  • [–] 7 points 8 months ago

    They're essentially a death-squad

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago

    The American Tonton Macoute are out of control...

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