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[–] 285 points 2 years ago (12 children)

"No one can serve two masters. Either you will hate the one and love the other, or you will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and money.

Matthew 6:24

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  • [–] 109 points 2 years ago (10 children)

    Thank you. The best way to fight this is quoting scripture. Half these chuckles haven’t even seen a bible, let alone know what the words inside say.

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  • [–] 100 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    If any of the chucklefucks actually gave a shit about what the bible says, they'd all be as socialist as Jesus and would've burned Trump at a stake for being the antichrist.

    You can't deprogram religious extremists with religion.

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  • [–] 60 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    I'm Jewish, and thus not an expert on Jesus by any means. Still, even I know that Biblical Jesus would be a socialist today, not a Republican.

    He gave out free healthcare.

    He fed the hungry without charging them.

    He hung around people who were on the fringes of society.

    He worked against the wealthy.

    If Biblical Jesus were to magically appear in modern society, the only reason he would enter a MAGA church would be to flip a few tables.

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  • [–] 20 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    It doesn't matter, they pick and choose what they want to believe. If you try throwing scripture at them they just contort themselves into a pretzel trying to explain why that particular scripture is not to be taken literally.

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  • [–] 19 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Just because they will be 100% unwilling to admit to you that they are actually physically experiencing the feeling of doubt, does not mean it isn't actually happening.

    Don't expect them to be honest about what's going on inside them though. They value fighting, never giving up, persistence, dedication, loyalty, strength, power, confidence and security. None of these things makes it more likely for them to admit to you when something they disagree with might sound reasonable.

    It's a defense mechanism. Can't just give it permission to function though.

    You do have to back off before you actually infuriate them though, as the emotion of anger will strengthen the defense mechanisms dramatically. Better to walk away having peacefully left some food for thought. You can't convince them though, being so readily convinced would itself be unacceptable to them, just on principle.

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  • [–] 126 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (18 children)

    Mathew 25: 36 - 40

    I was a stranger, and ye took me in: 36naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me. 37Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink? 38When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee? 39Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee? 40And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.

    Why does our country embody NONE of these ideals? Why do modern day Christians embody NONE of these ideals? How can we call ourselves a nation under god when we bomb innocent civilians, starve children for profit, imprison a population disproportionately then use them as slave labor, and shoot at immigrants for merely crossing an imaginary line.

    What GOD would want us?

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  • [+] 44 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (15 children)
  • [–] 38 points 2 years ago (14 children)

    I agree in sentiment with this, but any serious reading of the Christian Bible shows the entire point of Christ is basically replacing the vengeful god with a loving and forgiving one. These people are just bad Christians.

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  • [–] 34 points 2 years ago*

    That’s the general shape of my reply when someone tries to tell me that it’s gay people or trans people or abortion or pornography that are ‘causing God to hate us’. You mean, it’s me and my husband and our trans friends, and not the hate and the murder and the greed and the privation of the downtrodden?

    It’s never a productive conversation, let me tell you…

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    [–] 111 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    Motherfucker better not mix fabrics.

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  • [–] 84 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    It is odd to me how many people claim to be guided by a 400+ year old European version of a 2000+ year old Middle-Eastern text.

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    [–] 76 points 2 years ago* (2 children)

    That's such a classic answer because the bible doesn't say shit other than what we decide it says. Our interpretation of it follows cultural norms, not the other way around. One thing it damn sure doesn't say is abortion is wrong or that life begins at conception - it explicitly says the opposite and that hasn't somehow changed anyone's opinions.

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    [–] 69 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    There are some seriously juicy bits in the bible I'd read to him and ask him: Is this really your world view?

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  • [–] 56 points 2 years ago (9 children)

    So has he sold all of his possessions and given the proceeds to the poor?

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    [–] 55 points 2 years ago* (2 children)

    https://geoffrobson.com/2017/09/28/squaring-off-against-jed-bartlet-an-alternate-ending-to-the-west-wing-and-homosexuality/

    If only we could have this conversation happen then:

    Chapter and verse! I wanted to ask you a couple of questions while I had you here. I’m interested in selling my youngest daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7. She’s a Georgetown sophomore, speaks fluent Italian, and always cleared the table when it was her turn. What would a good price for her be? While thinking about that, can I ask another? My Chief of Staff, Leo McGarry, insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2 clearly says he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself, or is it okay to call the police? Here’s one that’s really important, ‘cause we’ve got a lot of sports fans in this town. Touching the skin of a dead pig makes one unclean: Leviticus 11:7. If they promise to wear gloves, can the Washington Redskins still play football? Can Notre Dame? Can West Point? Does the whole town really have to be together to stone my brother, John, for planting different crops side by side? Can I burn my mother in a small family gathering for wearing garments made from two different threads? Think about those questions, would you? One last thing, while you may be mistaking this for your monthly meeting of the Ignorant Tight-Ass Club, in this building, when the President stands, nobody sits.

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    [–] 47 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Elsewhere he wrote, “Experts project that homosexual marriage is the dark harbinger of chaos and sexual anarchy that could doom even the strongest republic.”

    The gays are too powerful. Happily married homosexuals are too strong to contain.

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    [–] 47 points 2 years ago

    brb selling my daughter

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  • [–] 19 points 2 years ago

    A lot of the stuff wingnuts espouse doesn't come from the new testament. They love the fire-and-brimstone, it shall be an abomination unto whatever horseshit from the old testament -- but only the bits and pieces of it that fit their preconceived notions and particular brand of hate.

    They also love to blather about the "ten commandments." They can never tell you which set of ten, though. (Because they haven't read the damn book; The list in Exodus is different from the one in Deuteronomy.) None of them seem to be prepared to cite what Big J said about the commandments, either.

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    [–] 35 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    How does someone this deranged get elected to any position of power more influential than a homeowner's association?

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    [–] 35 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Well he should sell one his daughters in slavery.

    Exodus 21:7-11

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    [–] 35 points 2 years ago (10 children)

    I wonder what his two daughters think about him being fully on board with this:

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  • [–] 30 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    "ExCUSE ME? You cannot rape these men, I believe they are angels, and they're my guests! The AUDACITY of your request! How DARE you! But please, rape my daughters on your way out. I insist." -Lot

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    [–] 32 points 2 years ago

    He's probably referring to the parts where women and slaves are property, you can beat your kids, and God orders his followers to commit genocides regularly.

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  • [–] 32 points 2 years ago

    Bet you anything this asshole ignores most, if not all, of the teachings of Jesus whenever it's convenient or profitable.

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    [–] 31 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

    IF he reads his bible then he should know that there is almost unlimited room for interpreting most of its contents.

    Does he not know how many different Christian denominations there are in the US? And that those exist because of theological differences?

    I am concerned about the lack of depth he is demonstrating. Maybe I shouldn't be surprised.

    ETA: It IS the house after all. My expectations should be lower, right?

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    [–] 26 points 2 years ago

    So I take it that he has no opinions about his civil rights, or anyone else’s. Because the Bible does not talk about our rights, only our responsibilities. You will not find a single verse referencing freedom of religion, surely. But also nothing about freedom of speech, the right to bear arms, freedom from unreasonable search and seizure, the right to privacy; or the right to a speedy trial by a jury of your peers, in which you have the right to face your accusers, and to see the evidence against you. And on and on, all the way down. Nothing at all.

    These rights were so important to the colonists that they laid down their lives for them, against one the the most powerful empires in the history of the world. Why doesn’t Mike Johnson respect the founders of his own country? Or perhaps he doesn’t actually understand anything about it?

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  • [–] 26 points 2 years ago

    Contradictory, ridiculously outdated, and easy to twist to your narrative?

    Great worldview.

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  • [–] 25 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Sooo... that means he is qualified to hold a position in ancient Judea - not modern-day USA.

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    [–] 24 points 2 years ago

    Isn’t that the book that talks about horse semen and beastiality? Probably shouldn’t be in schools.

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  • [–] 24 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    You want atheists? That's how you get atheists

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    [–] 24 points 2 years ago

    The hypocrisy of the modern Republican Party I guess, but what would such an apparently devout Christian man see in Donald Trump of all people?!

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  • [–] 24 points 2 years ago

    I've read the Bible, multiple times. And only once when I still considered myself a Christian.

    I call BULLSHIT.

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  • [–] 24 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Implying that everyone not only has a Bible on their shelf, but multiple.

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    [–] 21 points 2 years ago (8 children)

    A worldview from 2000 years ago. What forward thinking politicians we have in this day and age!

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