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Bluesky suspending antifascist researchers for sharing publicly available information about literal nazis. (kolektiva.social)
submitted 9 months ago by to c/technology@lemmy.zip
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[–] 154 points 9 months ago (11 children)

Publicly available police reports.

I'm completely against doxxing. But there were public reports. That's censorship.

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  • [–] 37 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (10 children)

    That’s also what many other social media would do because it’s easier to ban posting of personal information regardless of where it came from because you can’t trust moderation you outsourced to some third world country to do proper checks.

    Example:

    Reddit is quite open and pro-free speech, but it is not okay to post someone's personal information or post links to personal information. This includes links to public Facebook pages and screenshots of Facebook pages with the names still legible.

    Posting someone's personal information will get you banned. When posting screenshots, be sure to edit out any personally identifiable information to avoid running afoul of this rule.

    https://support.reddithelp.com/hc/en-us/articles/360043066452-Is-posting-someone-s-private-or-personal-information-okay

    Dunno if Bsky has something similar but it’s more of a cost optimisation than anything so people are getting pointlessly angry at individual companies rather than the system which has this sort of behaviour as a guaranteed outcome.

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  • [–] 10 points 9 months ago* (3 children)

    A competent programmer could write an algorithm to knock out the low hanging fruit, like public Facebook pages, in about five minutes.

    Might take me a couple hours. Someone genuinely good and familiar with the space would have been done in less time than it took to write this comment.

    Can't imagine why they would do that, or why they would want to extend protections they politically must extend to marginalized people who take real precautions to assholes who know they'll always be protected by power.

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    • [+] 100 points 9 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (20 children)
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  • [–] 34 points 9 months ago (11 children)

    I'm pretty sure he has nothing to do with bluesky. i think he's into nostr now.

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  • [–] 23 points 9 months ago (6 children)

    Nothing might be going too far. He left the board since it wasn't good PR for them but Bluesky is not transparent about its ownership and Dorsey could well still have a stake in it.

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago (5 children)

    They have talked about some parts of it. They got funding from Twitter under his direction and got to keep the funds when Twitter bailed on their side of the contract as Musk bought it (the initial plan was to move Twitter to a new protocol)

    It's a public benefit corporation. Jack can't legally do much at all after having left the board

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  • [–] 7 points 9 months ago

    i largely guage the toxicity of platforms by how quickly you encounter a genocide denier. nostr holds the record in that i encountered one on there literally as soon as i finished onboarding. a record that can only be tied, not beaten

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    [–] 78 points 9 months ago (10 children)

    Fuck bluesky.

    Anyone using it over Mastodon to protest twitter is a moron.

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  • [–] 47 points 9 months ago (8 children)

    Obay but can I use mastodon in a way that let's me choke on corporate dick? Because choking on corporate dick is kind of my favorite thing. Whole reason inhere.

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    [–] 39 points 9 months ago (29 children)

    shouldn't really surprise anyone. Didn't their CEO like several months ago pretty much defend a known fascist/tranphob on the platform and essentially told people who complained about it to "not post" out of protest? Also Bluesky is extremely quick to bend to the whims of whatever government body makes demands. They were one of the first sites to quickly implement age verification in the UK I believe.

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    [–] 35 points 9 months ago

    Oh no, surprise, censorship on a centralized platform. No one saw that coming.

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    [–] 31 points 9 months ago (63 children)

    There are no bans on nostr. And we desperately need more antifa to drown out the 3 white supremacists we can't ban

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  • [–] 43 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (46 children)

    Oh my, what's that thing? I tried nostr earlier this year after reading about their tech side and finding it interesting, but then I met their human side and... it was shocking (I lack words to properly explain the feeling). Most posts were, in order of amount of occurrence: cryptocurrency praising like it's 2015, bashing on leftism, some weird humor I didn't understand (maybe it was better not to understand), anti-government stuff, racist memes and a (maybe lost) user that posted some beautiful photos they took as amaetur photography practice. I literally stopped scrolling and uninstalled it when I saw a post claiming that pasteurizing milk is a genocide and an act from the government against us (the other users were even endorsing it!)

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  • [–] 22 points 9 months ago (43 children)

    Definitely a good technology overrun with cultists. Better content curation tools & more users will fix it

    Heads up, I sometimes post screenshots of replies like this as examples of how nostr looks to outsiders, because those cultists act confused about why no one joins

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  • [–] 12 points 9 months ago (14 children)

    It's a shame that Nostr's brand is tainted by its community in a lot of people's eyes, there's a lot to like about it as a protocol and as a free software project that is independent from that stuff.

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  • [–] 14 points 9 months ago (13 children)

    Tbh I think of Lemmy in the same terms. Like, people contemplating coming here from e.g. Reddit could block all the anti-Western propaganda (e.g. calling for actual murder against us), and find some pools of content that are halfway worthwhile... but like, why would they bother? For the ideological purity of not contributing to enshittification? Anyone who thinks that way is already here though.

    Whether facing "leftist" tankies on Lemmy or "conservative" right-wingers on Nostr, mainstream non-technical normie users are going to just nope right out of either.

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    • [–] 30 points 9 months ago (7 children)

    He got banned for doxxing? Is that right?

    I never trust anyone who says "I got banned from ____ for saying _____". I've never seen that claim match the reality of what happened. I hope he posted proof somewhere at some point

    *I don't use Bluesky

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    • [–] 17 points 9 months ago (5 children)

    wow if we can't trust me jack dorsey who can we even trust anymore‽

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    [–] 10 points 9 months ago

    I stopped using Bluesky because they have a huuuge bad actors spreading right-wing talking points problem

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    [–] 10 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

    The rewards of legally unnecessary moderation. Not the first unpopular incident of censorship by bluesky, either.

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    [–] 6 points 9 months ago

    🎻

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    [–] 6 points 9 months ago

    Bsky hates its users

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