cross-posted from: https://lemmy.zip/post/55094518

“The UK government wants technology companies to block explicit images on phones and computers by default to protect children, with adults having to verify their age to create and access such content,” the FT report said. “Ministers want the likes of Apple and Google to incorporate nudity-detection algorithms into their device operating systems to prevent users taking photos or sharing images of genitalia unless they are verified as adults.”

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[–] 166 points 9 months ago (27 children)

OMG. These plans are getting on my nerves.

When a parent gives a kid their device and sets the child’s birthday, then enable these. If the birthday is over 18, the let them do what they want.

Let parents parent the kid and get the government out of my life.

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  • [–] 76 points 9 months ago (17 children)

    Or just don’t fucking age gate shit.

    Seriously who the fuck cares if a kid sees a titty?

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  • [–] 54 points 9 months ago

    Worse is that it likely won't be able to distinguish between intentionally titilating material and material intended to educate. Only over 18 are allowed to learn about human physiology after submitting identifying information.

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  • [+] 8 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (9 children)
  • [–] 10 points 9 months ago (8 children)

    Children generally aren't that interested in nudity and most don't understand porn, just that it's something shocking

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  • [+] 15 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (6 children)
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  • [–] 25 points 9 months ago (6 children)

    It's kind of unfortunate how much this has been encouraged by petty online fights. People were very excited when "will somebody think of the children" was applied to, say, some social media content or gaming loot boxes because the Internet did not like those things, so they were very happy to ignore the pre-existing parental control devices and request blanket bans. Then people remembered that a bunch of old, prudish people on both sides of the political aisle don't like porn and it was too late.

    Man, people love the "they first came for" argument online and I should have guessed the first time it really pays off in the 21st century it'd include the absolute most depressing things possible instead.

    Anyway, this is bad and I don't like it, but UK politics are almost as bad as US politics, so I'm happy to let both stew in their own cautionary tale juices.

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  • [–] 11 points 9 months ago (5 children)

    None of those other things should require any sort of identity or age verification, though. In the case of loot boxes, government should be able to tell companies, “hey, you can’t sell that here”. In the case of age verification and nudity scanning there’s a whole host of issues from the fact that people don’t find loot boxes to be taboo or embarrassing to the fact that people do find nudity and porn embarrassing, to the fact that any scanning systems will false flag, to questions about who has access to the data that is submitted and how long it is stored, to how easy it could be to misuse the systems to go after disadvantaged groups (we all know LGBT content will intentionally be covered by this, whether they’re open about it or not, right?), to whether or not the system will be used for other purposes that either aren’t being said aloud or won’t be realized until after it’s implemented.

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    [–] 108 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 child)

    Puritanical bullshit... what the fuck.

    *It's like tumblr banning nudity, which basically came down to banning any picture containing nipples. Except like, for a whole backwards country.

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    [–] 84 points 9 months ago* (2 children)

    UK war on ...nudity?

    Them being prude is nothing new but this takes the cake.

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  • [–] 61 points 9 months ago (9 children)

    Even if you’re morally opposed to the various things this addresses, it is so immensely concerning and unwise to want a corporation to have this much control over your actions, daily life, and liberty.

    I don’t think enough people talk about that.

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    [–] 58 points 9 months ago

    Jesus fucking Christ I hate this shithole of a country

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  • [–] 51 points 9 months ago (8 children)

    We need a solid linux phone fast.

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  • [–] 10 points 9 months ago (7 children)

    Saw posts about one on Lemmy today, seems to be pretty cheap too

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  • [–] 49 points 9 months ago (13 children)

    Ahhhhhh just fuck off you useless cunts! Why don't you fix the fact that we've got kids fucking starving in this country before worrying about if they've seen tits before they're 18?!

    It's dumb shit like this that is really pushing me to KMS once my mother has passed on. I can't stand sharing oxygen with these morons.

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    [–] 48 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Gotta love how it's "better" in these assholes' "minds" to pretend sex doesn't exist than to actually parent them on the topic that the kids are gonna find out about anyway - often in an unexpected and/or uncontrolled fashion. I'd much rather get ahead of that and make sure they know what they need to before they come face-to-face with it and are clueless - something much more likely to result in what is a supposedly (because they sure are picking the worst way to avoid it) undesirable outcome in the end.

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  • [–] 41 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Bringing back the prudish Victorian era?

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  • [–] 40 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    In the end it isn't about the kids , what they want is control and tracking of everyone.

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    [–] 39 points 9 months ago*

    Soon: Police sirens have been detected, video recording terminated.

    police begin shooting protesters

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  • [–] 38 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    that will quickly turn into "continuously monitor your users' screens for what they are doing so you can detect nudity" where the real aim will ofcourse be surveillance and selling highly personal data. I don't know about Apple but google will be all over it.

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    [–] 36 points 9 months ago* (1 child)

    England is turning into a really proper shithole country

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  • [–] 31 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    As the dad of a teenager, I am "encouraging" him to put nudity blocking systems on his phone.

    oh shit would you look at that i just taught him how to go around me and hide his behavior better im sure there will be no future consequences whatsoever

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  • [–] 15 points 9 months ago

    The important thing isn't that your kids don't see porn, it's that they feel the requisite amount of shame and never talk to you about their sexuality.

    Also, it's one more thing we can criminalize in a surveillance state. So now we can more easily extort horny people with fines and prison if we feel the need

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  • [–] 30 points 9 months ago (1 child)
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    [–] 30 points 9 months ago

    Seems more reasonable to put UK-blocking systems on them...

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  • [–] 27 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Kier Starmer is a nevernude. Pass it on.

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    [–] 16 points 9 months ago

    Gargle my balls, m'lord.

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  • [–] 16 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    They're doing their part in UK politics. Tories stole everything they could and drove it all into the ground until everyone got sick and elected labour. Now they're raising taxes to put money back in and doing everything they can to make sure they're hated enough that there is no chance they get re-elected. Then, Tories can just walk back in and take all the money coming in from the new taxes again. It's a beautiful cycle of the general population getting fucked from both sides.

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    [–] 16 points 9 months ago

    Year of the linux phone

    If they make it obligatory, sudo systemctl disable uk-spyware

    (I know that in that case it would be illegal to disable, solvable with sudo systemctl enable uk-spyware-spoof)

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  • [–] 14 points 9 months ago

    100 members of the lords vs one adguard filter

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  • [–] 14 points 9 months ago

    Why, yes I would like to get literally cockblocked by Google and Apple. Thanks UK! /s

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  • [–] 13 points 9 months ago (6 children)

    Client side scanning, it's already happening in android running google services there are two apps automatically installed which at least I know scan photos in the device. One is android system saftycore and the other I can't remember the name.

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    [–] 12 points 9 months ago

    Fuck you. My phone. My rules. Open source OS it is for my next phone...

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  • [–] 10 points 9 months ago

    Looks like click-bait. It is a proposal from by one old fart in the 800 member House of Lords. Not a serious Bill.

    Read this thread...

    https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/1pnsawo/comment/nubbach/

    Having said that, it is important to nip such ideas in the bud.

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