According to a transcript obtained by the German outlet, Europe rallied around Volodymyr Zelenskyy and sharply criticized Washington.

French President Emmanuel Macron warned the U.S. could be about to “betray” Ukraine, according to a leaked transcript of a call between European leaders strategizing about how to protect Kyiv.

The details of the phone call — which took place Monday and involved Macron, German Chancellor Friedrich Merz, NATO Secretary-General Mark Rutte, Finnish President Alexander Stubb, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy and others — were published by German magazine Der Spiegel and saw the leaders discussing U.S.-led peace negotiations with Kyiv and Moscow.

“There is a possibility that the U.S. will betray Ukraine on the issue of territory without clarity on security guarantees,” Macron said, according to Spiegel, adding there was “a great danger” for Zelenskyy. The Élysée did not immediately respond to POLITICO’s request for comment. Spiegel reported the Élysée denied in a statement to the German outlet that Macron spoke of any betrayal. “The president did not use those words,” Macron’s office said, per Spiegel.

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[–] 84 points 8 months ago (1 child)

Could? We are way past that.

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  • [–] 53 points 8 months ago (5 children)

    This is what happens when you have a US administration that's more concerned with its own interests than with supporting its allies in the face of aggression from Russia. Macron is right to be wary - it's time for the US to step up and provide real support to Ukraine, not just empty words

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  • [–] 11 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

    The thing is supporting Ukraine and keeping the current world order and its alliances intact is at the core of US interests.

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  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    That's been like every administration. The US has pretty much only cared about its own interests.

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  • [–] 20 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    In the past, the US assumed it's allies were it's own interests. Now it's about how much money can be bribed.

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  • [–] -2 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    more concerned with its own interests than with supporting its allies

    You're just describing Realpolitik, which we've been practicing since at least Nixon

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  • [–] 14 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Is it still realpolitik if they're going directly against the interests of their own country, and only focusing on their own personal interests?

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago*

    That's more just "corruption". But we've been practicing corrupt politics since... checks history textbook... ah, President George Washington.

    The problem with the Ukraine/Russia war is that there's a ton of economic interests geared towards arming belligerents, clearing out native peoples from their land, and looting Ukraine for the benefit of external plutocrats. One could argue this is a problem with every war, particularly in the 400 years since we've developed a capitalist form of enterprise. We're just doing to Ukraine and the surrounding Mediterranean region what Spain, France, and Britain were doing to North America centuries earlier.

    That kind of conquest and control is both profitable for the ranking leadership of the invading countries and broadly beneficial for the public at-large who get salaries and investment returns as a consequence of the economic activity of shooting and looting.

    So, now we're describing "imperialism".

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  • [–] 11 points 8 months ago

    Yeah, that seemed pretty obvious. Even to the most hardcore MAGA it'd probably be obvious, though they'd probably call it a good deal... a GREAT deal.

    The people currently in charge of US foreign policy have more than made it clear how two-faced and opportunistic (and fascistic) they intended to be.

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  • [–] 7 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Eu should retaliate by harming the USA proxy in the middle east

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago*

    Unfortunately, in this post capitalist economy the EU is effectively a small player in regards to wealth and have little to no global influence and power to slap USA on the wrists.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago

    7/10 chances it was Denmark again that helped wiretap the call...

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago

    i would give the united states to another country like Mexico or whatever

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  • [–] 19 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Yes. The current US is untrustworthy.

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  • [–] -2 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    Only a Russian would say this

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