Well, everybody born in the american continent is technically "american" too, including Central and South America. Is there a specific term in english for these people?

Edit: Thanks for all your answers, especially the wholesome ones and those patient enough to explain it thoroughly. Since we (South Americans) and you (North Americans) use different models/conventions of continent boundaries, it makes sense for you to go by "Americans", while it doesn't for us.

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[–] 107 points 2 years ago (4 children)

'Murican 🇺🇸🍔🍺🏈🗽

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  • [–] 95 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (20 children)

    There's not a clear and conscience alternative to "American." If you're trying to differentiate us from other people from the Americas you'd just say US Citizen. And while yes the entirety of this hemisphere is some variation of America be it North, Central, or South the other countries here have distinct names and we really don't.

    At the risk of sounding like a typical US asshole, here goes nothing. This is how I've explained it to friends from Europe and it seemed to help.

    If Brazil had decided to go by the name "United States of Brazil" we would still call them Brazilians because there is another country with the title "United States" that also exists. Similar to how we call people from the Peoples Republic of China, Chinese. We don't call them "People's Republicans" because that's a title not a unique identifier or name. What if that same country decided to go by the name the Peoples Republic of Asia instead, would we call them Peoples Republicans or would we call them Asians?

    The title "United States" is telling you that this area is united together and the borders represent states, not country's. "America" tells you where those united states are, the continent of America. The term "American" is generalized and honestly doesn't accurately represent the vast cultural differences within the United States. The states often have their own rights and laws separate from the US government and also unique cultures. Ideally we would be called by our states name for its citizens like Californian or New Yorker, for example. Similar to how you would refer to people from Europe as European unless you wanted to be specific to Italy, then you'd say Italian. But sometimes you need a general term, hence "American."

    All that being said, it is problematic and a massive reminder of this country's bloodthirsty and genocidal colonization of a large part of North America. Looking at the country's past shows that they were very much trying to also get central and south America as part of the United States. What better way to propagandize and make it look like they had every right to the rest of the Americas than to make it appear as though this country or that country already was America and therefore should be part of these United States? But however problematic it is this is the name we have now, for better or worse.

    As an addendum of sorts. We Indigenous Americans would often much rather be called by the names of our sovereign Nations yet everyone calls us Native American. Why is that? Food for thought that might help with understanding the problematic struggle we have here. It's not simply us as citizens that perpetuate the issue, it's a global colonization effort whether the others realize they are participating or not. (Spoiler: they realize)

    tldr: because colonization + United States is a title not a name

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  • [–] [S] 26 points 2 years ago (9 children)

    First off, thank you for your great response.

    And yeah, I kinda get that "United States" is just a title, but in my native language (portuguese) we have a specific word for americans: "estadunidense", which basically means "person born in the USA"

    I was just wondering if there was a similar word in english that could be used specifically to these people, just like we have in portuguese. But again, thanks for your answer.

    Also, fun fact: Brazil was actually called "United States of Brazil" for a short period, and our flag looked like a copy of yours, but in yellow and green. But then our king (thankfully) decided to go just by "Brazil"

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  • [–] 19 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

    No problem, I'm always happy when someone is interested in learning more! I'm Muscogee Creek, specifically Thlopthlocco but Creek or Muscogee is preferable and easier for everyone lol. I'd recommend some books. One is not too long and it's the one I would start with, it will help reframe a person's understanding of who indigenous people are which I think is essential. Otherwise all further learning is being done behind a false idea of who Indigenous people are. Something I remember most from this book was along the lines of, "for many people Indians don't exist and if they do exist it's outside of their preconceived notion of who they are so to them they aren't real Indians. They have placed themselves as the experts on what it is to be Indian." The books, All the Real Indians Died Off: And 20 Other Myths about Native Americans by Dina Gilio-Whitaker and Roxanne Dunbar-Ortiz. The second would be, An Indigenous Peoples' History of the United States by Roxanne Dunbar-Ortiz

    Id you'd like something quick and dirty online the War of 1812 was also the Creek Civil War, the first one. The Northern Creeks, my people, were fighting against being colonized further by the US, we didn't want to be Americans or give away anymore of our country. Jackson, the president on the $20, and his army skinned Northern Creek people some still living and used our skin to make leather reigns for their cavalry horses. They then went to a nearby village slaughtered who they could and locked the remaining women, children, and elderly in their homes and burned them alive. He saved one baby, a boy, who he sent home to be a "pet" for his son, which is what he wrote in a letter to his wife. He meant to make an example of how we could be "civilized" and was going to send the Creek boy to West Point but the political climate had changed. Americans didn't want to see Indians "civilized" anymore they wanted us gone. He was never going to be able to pass the Indian Removal Act if people saw we were just like them so he sent the Creek boy to be a saddler instead. He died of TB not long after. Then Jackson sent thousands of us, starving and freezing, on a death march across the country to Oklahoma. (I had links in here for you. For the books and the pages about the war but they didn't seem to work. It's an easy wiki dive though.)

    Totally more than you asked for but I got on a roll. It's rare someone asks so I try to post as much as I can so people don't have to go far to learn a bit more of the real history of the US. It's important we know so we all can heal and move forward, together.

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    [–] 82 points 2 years ago (12 children)

    In Australia we call them cunts.

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    [–] 49 points 2 years ago (11 children)

    I knew one that was called "Doug". I'm not sure how much of a generalisation one can make from that though, but it seemed to work for him.

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    [–] 47 points 2 years ago (19 children)

    "American" is the official name, though throughout history attempts have been made to find alternatives. You can read more on the Wikipedia page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demonyms_for_the_United_States

    The only officially and commonly used alternative for referring to the people of the United States in English is to refer to them as citizens of that country.[18] Another alternative is US-American,[19] also spelled US American.

    Several single-word English alternatives for American have been suggested over time, especially Usonian, popularized by architect Frank Lloyd Wright,[20] and the nonce term United-Statesian.[21]

    Writer H. L. Mencken collected a number of proposals from between 1789 and 1939, finding terms including Columbian, Columbard, Fredonian, Frede, Unisian, United Statesian, Colonican, Appalacian, Usian, Washingtonian, Usonian, Uessian, U-S-ian, Uesican, and United Stater.[22] Names for broader categories include terms such as Western Hemispherian, New Worlder, and North Atlantican.[23][24][25]

    Nevertheless, no alternative to "American" is common in English.[18]

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  • [–] 22 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    Nonce term?? Does that mean something different where you are?

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  • [–] 19 points 2 years ago* (3 children)

    That sentence stumped me too, really weird wording. Apparently it means "rare, seldom used" in US English.

    Edit: just checked Urban Dictionary and welp, I didn't foresee the British slang meaning o_O

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    [–] 41 points 2 years ago (15 children)

    The proper term is American.

    everybody born in the american continent is technically “american” too

    The implied context of your question is in English.. In the English-speaking world, there is no American continent. People from North America are North Americans; people from South America are South Americans. People from the United States of America are American. There is no ambiguity. There is also no good term to collectively describe everyone from the Americas but there’s also rarely any need to discuss that.

    I consider terms such as “USonian” and whatnot to be highly offensive. Nobody should tell a people what they are allowed to call themselves in their own language just because the same word means something else in another language. It would be like telling French people they’re not allowed to call their arm a bras because it refers to an article of clothing in English. Other languages where America means something else already have their own terms for people from the US. English, however, has no real ambiguity except that caused by those trying to shame Americans for calling themselves Americans.

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  • [–] [S] 13 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    In the English-speaking world, there is no American continent.

    I didn't know that, thanks.

    Nobody should tell a people what they are allowed to call themselves in their own language

    Look man, I'm not american and I didn't ask the question to create some debate about the ethics or whatsoever. I just wanted to know if there was a specific word for that.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 years ago

    People from North America are North Americans; people from South America are South Americans. People from the United States of America are American. There is no ambiguity.

    Thank you for eloquently responding to the pedantry underlying OP's question.

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    [–] 33 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (7 children)

    Only one country on those countries has the word "America" in its name.

    It's commonly understood by all but the most pedantic that "americans" refers exclusively to inhabitants of the USA.

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    [–] 24 points 2 years ago (9 children)

    North and South America are so big and diverse that there's really no usage for the term "American" being used to refer to everyone on both continents. US just took the term for themselves and no one really cared enough to complain

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    [–] 21 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

    Language rules (in English at least) are descriptive not prescriptive. They try to explain why Americans are called Americans, not determine what they're called. They're called Americans, whether or not it's logical, or the ideal descriptor, or fits with other names, that's what they're called.

    Also most English speaking countries don't have an "American" continent, they have North and South America as separate continents, so you would say someone is North or South American to refer to the continent, not just American. Similar to how some people consider Eurasia a single continent but very few people would identify as Eurasian.

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    [–] 19 points 2 years ago

    A “US-American” if you need to be very clear. But most people just say “American”.

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  • [–] 18 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    To add a bit of context, it isn't arrogance or something that drives us to use "American" as a demonym, it's just the linguistic norm. I don't find any of the other names offensive (except seppo, but that one is meant to offend me), but most of us would probably do a double take at the term "USican" or "USian." Virtually all of us would accept Yankee.

    Further reading: the full name of Mexico is the United Mexican States. If we wanted to be pedantic, we could say that using the reference to the US would be ambiguous, as they too are technically a US.

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    [–] 17 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

    I like to call them Muricans. Sure, it may sound super similar to "Americans", but it's different enough to sorta make things clearer.

    I'm joking. This idea is horrible.

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    [–] 14 points 2 years ago

    I usually respond to "Hey stupid", maybe try that?

    Don't actually try this.

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    The simple answer is really, no. Colloquially if you say "American" you're talking about someone from the USA. We'll further segregate ourselves into the States we're from, which isn't that different a distinction between "European" and "German".

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  • [–] 13 points 2 years ago

    "From the United States"

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  • [–] 13 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    On a phone, or by yelling.

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    [–] 12 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    In french you can say états-unien and you might translate it as States-nan

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    [–] 12 points 2 years ago (26 children)

    The sovereign people of any nation have a right to call themselves what they please. People of the US decided on 'American' long before the Internet was a thing and Latin America people got pissed off. US intervention in Latin America is a stain in history, but this is categorically dumb. US citizens call themselves Americans because it's in the name. Literally. Canadians don't call themselves Americans and never will. This is dumb argument. Respectfully.

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    [–] 12 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Honestly, Yankee is probably the best. Some southerners won’t like it, and westerners will probably be confused, but we all know it means American and it’s the only real term for one of us that doesn’t lend the question “and why do we call you this and not people from the United States of Mexico this”. Our country’s name is unfortunately extremely generic.

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    [–] 12 points 2 years ago (6 children)

    In Germany we call them "US-Amerikaner".

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  • [–] 11 points 2 years ago (6 children)

    It's always been funny to me when latin Americans get pissy at the term American being used to describe the country who's president is Biden ( said with love as mx) . They always try to correct Americans to "estados unidenses" United Statean. Which in my opinion doesn't work for 3 reasons. First name recognition most of the world associate Americans with 'merica. 2nd it's a difficult set of words for Anglo speakers especially vs Americano. Thirdly there are actually 2 countries thats proper name include "United States" those are united states of American and United States of Mexico, who colloquially are known as America and Mexico respectively.

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    [–] 11 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Judging from playing video games in EU lobbies, "Hamburger"?

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    US-Amerikaner

    US-Americans

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