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Dbzer0 admin casually defending Uyghur genocide denial because "libs worse", yikes (lemmy.world)

submitted 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) by PugJesus@lemmy.world to c/meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works

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[-] NIB@lemmy.world 44 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Genocide is a protected term. Only crimes against humanity in the Genoc region of Poland can be called that.

[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 24 points 10 months ago

Had me in the first half

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 7 points 10 months ago

Hexbear, probably

[-] Skiluros@sh.itjust.works 37 points 10 months ago

DB0 seems like a cool instance, but the tankie roach adjacency is a massive red flag.

[-] miss_demeanour@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 10 months ago

Indeed. All I wanna do is maths!

[-] noxypaws@pawb.social 4 points 10 months ago

That and being explicitly pro-ai

[-] goat@sh.itjust.works 22 points 10 months ago

I mean this is the reason they give when removing comments

[-] ricdeh@lemmy.world 22 points 10 months ago

Well, that is a shitty comment.

[-] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 18 points 10 months ago

db0 also discourages voting in elections because "its a waste of time" lolol

Yea how is your anarchist community gonna decide things? Ask the community for agrees and disagrees with a proposal? Congrats, you just reinvented voting!

[-] goat@sh.itjust.works 6 points 10 months ago

It's funny how every anarchist community ends up becoming liberal, democratic and western

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[+] finitebanjo@piefed.world 18 points 10 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

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[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 41 points 10 months ago

They've gotten very strange in the past year or so. I've seen multiple dbzer0 users, including two admins, do complete 180s on tankie bullshit, and it's rather bizarre.

My best guess is that tankies offer them a sense of community, which is how many terminally online folk get drawn into it. People who have a deep desire for community will overlook moral issues if invited to be a part of that community, and even adopt, consciously or unconsciously, those positions in order to better 'fit in' with the community.

In a time when the real world is more recognizably hostile than ever, or at least for as long as most of us here have been alive (insofar as we are both aware of it and noting that it is backsliding rather than improving), online communities probably seem quite tempting to hew closer to.

[-] goat@sh.itjust.works 10 points 10 months ago

I think it's your usual anarchist thinking they're stronger together with a tankie, little do they know that the tankies will eat them every single time

[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago

I doubt practical considerations have anything to do with it.

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[-] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 10 months ago

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[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 22 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

"China is being shitty and authoritarian towards the Uyghurs, but it's nothing like the genocide Israel is waging", saying that Chinese influence in Myanmar is a more serious violation by the PRC than the Uyghur genocide is, and leveling a judgement of "PTB" - "Power Tripping Bastard" - towards the moderator of this comm for banning someone who was literally denying the Uyghur genocide.

Combined, that's pretty distinctly defending Uyghur genocide denial, and I would say right up on the border of denying Uyghur genocide themselves.

If I said, "Israel is being shitty and authoritarian towards the Palestinians, but it's nothing like the genocide the Nazis waged", would you regard that as:

A. Borderline genocide denial of the ongoing genocide of the Palestinian people by reducing the ongoing genocide to something that is simply 'shitty and authoritarian' while noting that 'real' genocide is more than that

B. Just making casual comparisons

[-] r00ty@kbin.life 7 points 10 months ago

The beauty of the fediverse is that if you don't like the actions of one instance's admin team you can simply move to another and create your own versions of communities they host, with blackjack and hookers.

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 4 points 10 months ago

So piefed

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[-] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

That is literally defending one genocide.

[-] goat@sh.itjust.works 4 points 10 months ago

As a note: I've been vocal about not supporting any sorts of violence

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I like how they are gate keeping the term tankie

[-] Kolanaki@pawb.social 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Unruffled is the biggest reason I decided to block their instance. When I brought some issues up with db0 (the other admin) about it, he just ignored it and played dumb. One admin is actively a troll and the other, at best, doesn't know how to handle their shit.

[-] Not_mikey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

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[-] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 22 points 10 months ago

It's not the worst genocide bro. Just a little genocide bro.

[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago

“China is being shitty and authoritarian towards the Uyghurs, but it’s nothing like the genocide Israel is waging”, saying that Chinese influence in Myanmar is a more serious violation by the PRC than the Uyghur genocide is, and leveling a judgement of “PTB” - “Power Tripping Bastard” - towards the moderator of this comm for banning someone who was literally denying the Uyghur genocide.

Combined, that’s pretty distinctly defending Uyghur genocide denial, and I would say right up on the border of denying Uyghur genocide themselves.

If I said, “Israel is being shitty and authoritarian towards the Palestinians, but it’s nothing like the genocide the Nazis waged”, would you regard that as:

A. Borderline genocide denial of the ongoing genocide of the Palestinian people by reducing the ongoing genocide to something that is simply ‘shitty and authoritarian’ while noting that ‘real’ genocide is more than that

OR

B. Just making casual comparisons

[-] Skiluros@sh.itjust.works 8 points 10 months ago

Mass forced sterlization of Uighur women by the CCP is not a big deal?

[-] Barbarian@sh.itjust.works 13 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

No, I get their point that just because you're comparing two genocides doesn't make either of them "not a big deal".

Although, imho, comparing genocides does seem like a kinda shitty thing to do for the same reason you don't respond to "I've had a traumatic and exhausting day" with "Oh yeah? Well my day was WAY worse!".

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[-] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 4 points 10 months ago

"Okay but this other thing is worse," say people who firmly rejected moral relativism during the election.

[-] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 3 points 10 months ago

I love how YTB has banned me for no reason on that community

[-] flamingos@feddit.uk 5 points 10 months ago

You're instance banned from dbzero because of your anti asylum seeker rhetoric. The modlog is public my guy, you can see the reason.

[-] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I'm not even anti asylum seeker. And even then, it's got nothing to do with YTB

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