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[โ€“] 91 points 1 year ago (15 children)

It'll be especially dangerous since they're gonna have slashed tires so often.

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  • [โ€“] 36 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    lol and thatโ€™s one of the smaller truck models youโ€™ll see in the states ๐Ÿซ 

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  • [โ€“] 82 points 1 year ago (11 children)

    Why have they caved? These vehicles arenโ€™t appropriate here.

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  • [โ€“] 63 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

    As someone from the US, they're mostly not appropriate here either. They rarely get used for anything except driving to/from work. They are more like massive uneconomical vans with four luxury seats rather than work trucks (again, when they nearly always have a driver and no passengers).

    That being said, my fiancรฉ lives in the Philippines (Specifically in Manila, the most densely populated city on the planet), and every time I visit it's clear the same stupid oversized trucks are everywhere and I doubt anywhere in the EU will be different.

    Just like requiring seatbelts to be a rule, you need to put rules in place so the idiots don't destroy everything, that's pretty much advanced modern society.

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  • [โ€“] 27 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    They probably figured that they can sell trucks but nobody is obligated to buy them. The taxes are on weight and prices for fuel are not compatible with gas guzzlers. The really heavy ones need a different driving license. Also in places the tax exemption for cargo didn't work anymore.

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    [โ€“] 61 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    RAM pick ups are not type-approved to be sold on the EU market, but are imported under IVA, ostensibly to be sold on a one-off or โ€˜individualโ€™ basis. Already, the IVA rule, intended for niche uses, is being roundly abused by German and Dutch Type Approval entities, which approve 69% and 30% of RAMs respectively, said T&E. Imports of three other pick-up trucks โ€“ the Ford F-150, the Chevrolet Silverado and the GMC Sierra 1500 โ€“ have skyrocketed from 157 in 2019 to approx 1,700 in 2024 [1].

    The EU Commissionโ€™s proposals to close the IVA loophole tabled in early July are now at risk from an EU-US trade pact which states that the EU and US โ€œintend to accept and provide mutual recognition to each otherโ€™s standardsโ€ for cars.

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  • [โ€“] 28 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    And to compete our domestic car industries will probably start making similar models :/

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  • [โ€“] 59 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    These vehicles are not really made for European infrastructure. Especially in older Cities or towns they are sometimes wider than the road itself. I guess it would be fine if people would have to have a C-Class license.

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  • [โ€“] 27 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    But have you considered bulldozing all the historic architecture to accommodate American manufacturers' god given right to sell product?

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  • [โ€“] 43 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Solicit your vehicle taxing authorities to raise taxes on these huge vehicles so it's cost prohibitive.

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  • [โ€“] 7 points 1 year ago

    In the netherlands road tax is paid depending on the weight of the vehicle (and some more factors). Also, a standard drivers license B is for cars with maximum weight 3500kg (unladen weight plus payload).

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    [โ€“] 33 points 1 year ago (13 children)

    Do they really think US style trucks will sell well in Europe?

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  • [โ€“] 74 points 1 year ago (10 children)

    Yes I do. Selfishness is not an American only trait.

    Too bad. I wish the US had EU and JP sized cars

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  • [โ€“] 36 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    I mean, selfishness is one thing, but these things literally won't fit in most parking spaces and even a number of garage spaces.

    You can technically buy a bus, too, but most people don't think it's practical.

    The race to size already happened in Europe once, when 4x4s started getting marketed to scared housewives under the pretense that they were safer, if that sounds familiar. I know a few people who were tempted.

    Then they looked into it and got over it pretty quickly.

    I'm sure you'd see some (I saw my first local Tesla the other day, the guy had blacked out the badge to avoid having it vandalized). I'm not sure we're going to see a race towards Europeans as a group buying humongous, impractical, extremely expensive cartoon trucks.

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  • [โ€“] 11 points 1 year ago (1 child)
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    That angle almost helps its case because that's mostly large cars for the EU parked rather loosely in a spacious spot (guessing those two things are related). The Mercedes kind of breaks the illusion that it makes some sense.

    That thing would take two spaces and definitely go past the max length in the average underground parking lot.

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  • [โ€“] 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Have you seen people driving SUVs a lot? Those things generally don't fit in parking spots, doesn't stop people from trying and happily occupying two spots.

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  • [โ€“] 8 points 1 year ago

    Large SUVs? Not many, no.

    My point exactly.

    And the ones that I am familiar with out there, mostly from people who used to like cars but now have too many kids to fit into a hot hatchback, tend to fall into the "compact SUV" subsegment, which totally does fit in parking spots and meet current EU regulations.

    Also I wouldn't underestimate the size of the US monstrosities. Made me look it up. The most popular American pickup is 20 cm wider and a whopping 2 meters longer than the most popular EU SUV. I had to double check that, that's a tall NBA center longer. You could park a whole Smart FortTwo behind your SUV and still almost fit in the footprint of a Ford F150.

    You could also buy both the SUV and the Smart and still have money left over before you can afford the Ford. And that's not accounting the US prices may not be listing taxes.

    Seriously, regulations aren't the only reason car tastes have diverged. It's not like Ford doesn't sell cars in Europe. A nontrivial part of this has been Trump and his idiotic followers making shit up to justify things they don't like.

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  • [โ€“] 30 points 1 year ago

    what in the flying fuck

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  • [โ€“] 26 points 1 year ago*

    @Sunshine make them undrivable.

    We are already in a situation where they have to stop in the village centers to let people move out of the way for the extra wide load. I do not move. I don't think anyone should

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  • [โ€“] 22 points 1 year ago

    Why would any auto manufacturer make cars under European safety standards any more if this goes through?

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  • [โ€“] 20 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    In Europe those over the top insane-looking american "trucks" need heavy goods vehicle license, plus even if it's light enough for the regular license, it's still classified as a cargo vehicle which is subject for more tax (either yearly tax or sometimes even road usage tax). People can already buy new "trucks" (even Volkswagen makes one) and import old ones from the US for a long time, but extra tax is not something most want to pay.

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  • [โ€“] 13 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    WTF, there's Indian made pickup trucks & Japanese pickup trucks. Why is EU being a subservient bitch to the USA ???

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  • [โ€“] 10 points 1 year ago

    Up to member states means they probably won't do it, since it's a matter of national politics and popularity...

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  • [โ€“] 9 points 1 year ago*

    trucks for bitches. there pussies are so big and lose they need an overside vehicle to haul it around. hoodlums of the EU rise up with your crowbars and baseball bats its hunting season!

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  • [โ€“] 9 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    So as I understand this - which seems to be totally at odds with everyone else commenting - this will actually make it harder for people to drive these things on the road in the EU. Currently you can import those things without them being subject to EU categorisation and safety requirements if it's a one off (to quote Not Stanley, "I ain't no serial killer! I killed a bunch of people but they were all one-offs!") but now these will be categorised and controlled the same as EU vehicles instead, and subject to the same standards for safety, emissions, licensing etc. It's worth keeping in mind that even in the US these aren't categorised as cars, so why would they be in the EU? So someone with a car license (normally limited to 3.5T GLW) couldn't drive one, even if they pinky-swore that they wouldn't fully load it as is the case at the moment.

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    [โ€“] 7 points 1 year ago

    One L, after another. Oh, EU...

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