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[–] [email protected] 125 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's because people want to imagine themselves as a hero, engaging in one on one combat. A knight or samurai.

They don't want to imagine themselves as a barely trained serf in a block with 30 other people holding 3m long pikes trying not to shit yourself as arrows start to rain down.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Shit, even in one on one martial combat, give me range and I'll take it. Knife < Sword < Spear < Bow

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Knife < sword < spear < bow < trebuchet

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Knife < sword < spear < bow < crossbow < trebuchet

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Knife < sword < spear < bow < crossbow < trebuchet < arbalists thrown by trebuchets

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Just don't miss with the crossbow...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Knife < sword < spear < bow < crossbow < WA 2000 < trebuchet

[–] Squirrel 4 points 1 year ago

The most elegant weapon.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

By the time of 3m pikes most infantry would be receiving pretty decent training.

[–] [email protected] 105 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It was only folded so many times because the ore on Honshu is pretty low grade and had to have the carbon worked out of it more than European steel.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Wait, you mean it's not because it gives me the ability to part steel plate in a single slash?

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You only get that when you fold it 69 times.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Wow you must be a novice if you still need to slash. A true bushido master can cut steel without unsheathing the blade.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago

As I understand it, it wasn't to work the carbon out of it, but instead to simply evenly spread the impurities throughout the whole sword, so there weren't any specific points of weakness

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Obligatory "It wasn't folded 1000 times, it was folded 11 times giving it more than a thousand folds." Fun fact, the older traditional Japanese forges were basically assembled from mud found right there on the rivers where they found their low grade iron, and this process was kept alive by spiritualism and tradition conservatives, so it's honestly a miracle they assembled anything long and sharp at all. Most of the iron in Japan is considered low grade Pyrite at only 46% iron, while other places in the world had access to Magnetite with up to 72% iron before any refining.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Traditional tomahogonany is still made in small quantities in mud furnaces.

[–] [email protected] 69 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Long stick > any other melee weapon

[–] [email protected] 74 points 1 year ago (2 children)

the bow and arrow is just a logical extension of mankind's desire to poke each other at ever longer range.

[–] [email protected] 59 points 1 year ago

The natural wish to poke but not get poked back

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

rock->spear->bow and arrow->cannon->handheld cannon->auto-repeating handheld cannon->howitzer->ICBM->Predator drone

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

->relativistic kill vehicle.

You see it coming, omae wa mou shindeiru.

Only thing more scary would be triggering a vacuum decay event. But these tend to backfire quite spectacularly.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Orbital weapons platforms fit in there somewhere.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

Gotta have that reach.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Aliens see us as the water balloon planet.

[–] [email protected] 59 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

This just in- being able to hurt your enemy from farther away than they can hurt you conveys a large tactical advantage. More at 11.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I think a shield and sword together are better than a spear https://youtu.be/uLLv8E2pWdk?si=vXiyUTTnSbIq-vC8

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wait until you hear about Spears with shields.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Ancient Greek and Rome used them quite a lot, as I know.

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Even for all who had swords, their primary assault weapon was usually some form of pointy murder stick, usually handheld and horse-propelled

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The sword is the pistol of ancient times whereas the sprear is the assault rifle.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

That analogy bothers me more than it should because pistols are generally cheaper than assault rifles (but I get your point)

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 year ago

Chinese Soldiers: “What if we put a sword on a stick and call it a day?”

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It isn't folded 1000 times, only about 10 times.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In fairness, this would give you 1024 layers ;)

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

That's the point. The number of layers is over 1000.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Sir, your fedora is showing

But really, its a sword not noodles (which are folded when made by hand)

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Superior Japanese noodles, folded over 1000 times.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You need to arm 100 guys? 100 spears is a lot cheaper and easier to train than 100 swords.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That dude from the Office?

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Present in very many cultures as well. Be it called yari, ji, iklwa or sarissa they are all long pokey sticks.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Sharpening a stick regardless of length is probably one of the easiest ways to get a weapon

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

pokes oh hey didn't see you from all the way over here.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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