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[–] 123 points 1 year ago (20 children)

when?? after every Palestinian has starved to death? just so they can pretend to have a moral standing?

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Ah well, guess they better not do it until they can invent a time machine, then.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    They didn't do it, he just said they will.

    They are trying to cover their assess from the accountability of being complicit with the genocide the whole time, they are counting on people like you to let them get away with it.

    What does recognize Palestinian state mean? They'll give us what's left of the rubble in Gaza and the few ghettos they allow us to call the Palestinian territory in the West Bank?

    Is there anything proposed that will actually give Palestinians any semblance of justice?

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    [–] 93 points 1 year ago (53 children)

    Good. Now let’s recognize it everywhere else and stop recognizing israel.

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  • [–] 73 points 1 year ago (48 children)

    Not recognizing states that obviously exist is extremely silly.

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  • [–] 24 points 1 year ago (22 children)

    Yeah. exactly why Palestine should be recognized. israel is, however, a european invention and terrorist colony.

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  • [–] 26 points 1 year ago (12 children)

    The first part applies to... Most of the world outside of Europe?

    The second part applies, to lesser degrees, to a large part of the world. Such as the USA.

    What even is this argument. Israel's not a state? Well fucking great, so following that logic which state should we hold responsible for Israel's crimes then?

    Europe's colonial past is a whole-ass subject but amongst all the potential ways to try to make up for it, "stop formally recognizing former colonies because we fucked it up too badly" is one of the worst takes I've heard.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Why? Do you actually believe states have rights?

    States are invented, lines are drawn on maps and people are divided by elites, it's silly to insist that a genocidal ethno state should simple continue to exist because it already exists.

    We don't want a two state solution, we want one state where everyone is treated equally regardless of religion.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Not good at all. No mention of Palestine living in security like Israel. He ask for Palestinians to be completely demilitarized before having real assurance that Israel will end occupation completely , there is no mention of how the two state solution would be accomplished and what will happen if Israel refuses

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    [–] 56 points 1 year ago

    HOLY SHIT FINALLY

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  • [–] 50 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    But does that mean they'll recognize the genocide?

    It's like saying they'll recognize the house but won't acknowledge that it's on fire.

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  • [+] 39 points 1 year ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 child)
  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago

    It's just gaslighting and fooling people.

    Palestinians already has the right to defense based on UN general assembly 37/43, un general assembly resolution 2625 and Article 1(4) of the Geneva Protocol I. Even

    If you read the official document written to Traitor and Israeli asset Abbass you will see that it talk about right to Israel to live in security but not for Palestinians, they ask to demilitarize all Palestine without any security guarantees and a vow to stop the occupation .

    We all know that the USA will never allow Palestine to be recognized anyway. Even it does, countries don't have to wait for Palestine to be recognized to do their obligation and sanctions Israel state wide and stop any military collaboration since they signed genocide and Geneva conventions

    The USA and Israel will always try to stop any aid and support to reach Palestinians

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  • [–] 30 points 1 year ago

    Don't get fooled . There is no mention of Palestine right to security and self defense. He ask for Palestinians to be completely demilitarized before having real assurance that Israel will end occupation completely , there is no mention of how the two state solution would be accomplished and what will happen if Israel refuses

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  • [–] 27 points 1 year ago

    Send troops to stop the fucking genocide!

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  • [–] 21 points 1 year ago*

    In France, they repressed palestinian strike, canceled meeting and media defended Israel, he told us he won't arrest Netanyahu, despiste the CPI decision. There is so many things wrong.

    Even if he does it, i don't trust him, he could act long before.

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    [–] 15 points 1 year ago

    As tens of thousands of Gazans starve to death this week...

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago

    Oh so the French are anti semites now?

    /S

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (8 children)

    Unironically, admitting Israel, Palestine and Lebanon into the European Union might actually be the solution to this whole fucking clusterfuck.

    Edit: major major reforms should take place of course, and Israel should dismantle apartheid and pay reparations, while Lebanon should dismantle the sectarian dysfunction of their government, but as a long term horizon this region needs the wildly successful EU model of peaceful pacification more than any other region in the world.

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  • [–] 21 points 1 year ago

    Unironically, admitting Israel, Palestine and Lebanon into the European Union might actually be the solution to this whole fucking clusterfuck.

    Only if the EU disarms Israel and restores the '47 border in the process, then prosecute the IDF leadership for war crimes.

    Otherwise, you might as well suggest we admit Ukraine and Russia to the EU to settle that fight as well.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago

    Membership requires that candidate country has achieved stability of institutions guaranteeing democracy, the rule of law, human rights, respect for and protection of minorities, […].

    Yeah, that's not going to happen.

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    [–] 7 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    Cool, now pay reparations to Haiti.

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    This could be a signal that they would take the right side on the Israel-EU trade debate.

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