Despite brief post-election bounce, Trump has struggled throughout term to get majority approval from Black voters

Donald Trump appears to have lost of goodwill he had among Black voters during the 2024 presidential campaign, according to a new poll.

Among African-Americans, 71.5 percent disapprove of Trump’s presidency so far, while just 24.1 percent approve, according to a Decision Desk HQ average of polls current through July 7.

The president hasn’t gotten majority approval from Black voters since the end of his first week back in office, according to the aggregator, but the latest numbers represent a notable increase in discontent, after Trump had a 63.7 percent average disapproval rating among the voting demographic in mid-June.

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[–] 99 points 1 year ago (22 children)

Black people... Like what the fuck? Trump is like a caricature of a plantation owner. How does he even have 30% approval among block people

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  • [–] 47 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    One underestimates the power and scope of right-wing propaganda, and especially how it taps into machismo idolization, sadly.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    There is nothing manly about that sad sack of bones and lard.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    russian dark money can buy a ton of surprisingly effective propaganda

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  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    He's also the caricature of the dumb micromanaging boss that rips off his workers, but that's not a deal-breaker for white folks either; in fact, the majority apparently approve.

    Americans are just stupid, and it's easy to whip us into a moral panic.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Americans are just stupid, and it’s easy to whip us into a moral panic.

    I'm having a thought. It's easy to write them off as stupid, and they may be, but there's also like... If they have really bad information, the decisions they make given that info as true make more sense. If you really believed that Harris was eating babies, or "she's a communist that's going to put the christians in a labor camp", it would make sense to vote for the "lesser" evil.

    Just need to figure out why they believe such falsehoods. it's probably fox news et al.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    In my opinion, stupid is an aggravated form of ignorant; it's an aggressive, proud refusal to change one's mind despite having the clear contradictions in their beliefs presented to them.

    They believe the falsehoods because it benefits them to do so. Importantly, all of their friends believe it too, so if they stop then they'll lose their support and social network. It's the same kind of thought control techniques that cults exploit.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    The thing to understand is that people are deeply stupid and revel in their own ignorance.

    Black males, like genz and hispanic males and..., mostly just said "I don't like my life under Biden. We need a change" and voted for "the other guy". Some were indoctrinated by their right wing (or tankie dumbfuck) influencers. Others just figured they were being cool and "we need to shake things up in DC".

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I don't think you can explain this behavior as simply stupid and ignorant. There are plenty of stupid and ignorant people who didn't make the massive mistake of voting for Trump.

    I think the most necessary thing needed to vote for Trump is a glaring personality defect. Bigotry is probably the most common. That's why the Republicans made such a big deal of trans people.

    Other personality defects would be having an authoritarian personality, meaning you simply mindlessly obey whoever you see as an authority, like your church leaders. And complete lack of empathy, and extreme selfishness, and narcissism.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    People genuinely take pride in not reading articles (or, as is obnoxiously common on lemmy, losing their god damned minds over a paywall). Same with how nobody watches the news and takes pride in "valuing my mental health"

    The vast majority of those voters likely only knew about trump from a few clips from his rallies or hearing a "friend" talk about him. They never actually listened to a complete non-sentence or looked at any of the policy stances.

    Which, to be clear, is not an excuse. It is an explanation.

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  • [–] 33 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    It should be pointed out that (according to exit polls) 80% of Black voters voted for Harris. I've heard so many people blaming them for Trump, but they're not the problem here.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Of course not, black was the most pro-Harris demographic. Hispanics were a toss-up, which was the headscratcher

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Misinformation in group chats and latino men's love of machismo

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    I think they also were hit hardest by the thinking that he didn't do the things he was stopped from doing in his first term. He was bad for immigrants in his first term, but American Latinos, being Americans often have a desire to shut the door behind them and blame all the new immigrants for their problems just like the English, Germans, Irish, and Italians before them. So yeah they thought "surely not me, I wasn't hit last time."

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Not as a whole, but the margins were so thin in some states that Trump won that if Harris didn't lose that small percentage of Black voters, she might have swung enough states to win the election.

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  • [–] 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I'm trying to imagine being a black voter and voting for the blatantly racist white candidate.

    I'm not having a lot of success.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago

    There were gains? Voters have the attention span of a Chihuahua.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago

    I'll believe it when they take it to the voting booth, until then it's just hot air and false hope.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Does Trump not look at himself in the mirror? Tbat fucking paint on his face, but white ass sides, makes him look retarded (and that is an insult to retarded people).

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    You think that dumbfuck is gonna sit down and watch youtube makeup tips to help with contour blending? He hasn't learned anything new since he was a toddler.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I think he is able to learn, but he has to fail like 20 times until he finally gets it (e.g. JCPOA, he's almost getting there). Makes him feel like a genius.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago

    Fucking morons.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago* (4 children)

    For the few people who genuinely want the answer on why it's even this high:

    It's a lot easier to trick people that the wrong person is causing their issues, than it is to convince them that their issues don't exist and everything is actually great.

    Biden/Harris spent the whole campaign talking about how great "the economy" was doing, but they were talking about investments made by the wealthy, not the average Americans quality of life.

    This won't be an issue next primary, because no neoliberal can win a fair primary. For the first time since 08 the Dem candidate in the general will be the one most Dem voters want to be there.

    That will drastically help turnout across all demographics

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago* (3 children)

    That's optimistic.

    It's assuming the Dem Party doesn't sabotage their own candidates. It's assuming they don't campaign like it's 1960 again. It's assuming social media will somehow be reigned in.

    It's assuming there will even be a fair environment for an election, instead of the government (and whoever's conflated with them) putting thumbs on the scales kinda like Hungary, or worse. It doesn't take much pressure to sway elections in environments this polarized.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    It’s assuming the Dem Party doesn’t sabotage their own candidates

    The party is the DNC

    The DNC is a dictatorship controlled by the chair

    You don't have to guess what kind of chair Ken Martin is, he was Minnesota's chair for a decade and that track record stands for itself.

    He's already purging out old guard committee members, did a 180 on the flow of money between states and DNC, openly advocates for voters deciding the platform via fair primaries...

    Like, not as a personal dog, but the overwhelming amount of people complaining about the DNC just aren't up to date on what's happening

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    Like, not as a personal dog, but the overwhelming amount of people complaining about the DNC just aren’t up to date on what’s happening

    Fair point! I am not up to date TBH.

    I guess I'm pretty jaded too. The DNC getting things together!? What is this?

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    The DNC getting things together!?

    The biggest thing:

    https://democrats.org/news/dnc-and-asdc-announces-organize-everywhere-win-anywhere-strategy-largest-ever-monthly-dnc-investment-into-democratic-state-and-territory-parties/

    You may have seen articles about how two "union leaders" gave up on the party as well...

    The thing is, they were both superdelegates who sat on the committee that have been influencing primaries to favor neoliberals, and one of them even tried to go against the primary results and give it to Hillary in 08.

    Don't expect the media to portray things accurately, it's all owned by billionaires who would rather have a Republican than a progressive.

    And this wasn't a sudden overnight response to the 2024. The DNC is ~400 voting members who maybe get to vote for a chair every four years, if a Dem becomes president they name a chair.

    That group of ~400 have been moving left for decades, it's just that we finally reached the tipping point. We can't afford to slip like with Obama, and if I went into why 08 didn't fix the party this comment would be 10x as long

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  • [+] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)
  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    Some may be undecided. Some may have not responded, which can put them in the undecided category. So, that can account for a chunk of that. Some may be willing to overlook the bad stuff because the good stuff outweighs that (might be a rich black guy, or they hate they gays so much that they're willing to overlook the bad stuff). But, that tends to be a minority.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Too late. It's amazing that Americans still think that there will be another fair election that they can take this all back.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Why the fuck would black voters go for the guy who wanted to have the exonerated Central Park 5 executed? You know, the same guy who instructed his leasing offices to not rent out apartments to black people?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Good news, some North Koreans aren't too fond of Kim

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Even black folk have their fair share of Candace Owen “pick mes.” Massah always has his fair share of sambo house slaves who think they are massahs favorites like Tim Scott.

    (I’m black so fuck you if you say I’m being racist here)

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