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This happened quickly…Lemmy is now the second biggest platform next to mastodon!?!

https://fedidb.org/software

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hope this also feeds the growth of Mastodon as well. We need good FOSS alternatives to these corporate controlled social networks.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I might try Mastodon now that I found and fell in love with Lemmy, are there any good clients for Android?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Personally I like Tusky.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Moshidon is pretty good so far

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’m on iOS so I can’t say 100% but ivory is really well designed, I’m pretty sure that’s what the Apollo dev said he likes to use so I tried it and it’s good. Personally I’ve been using elk as a web app and it’s been my favourite so far. I don’t think there’s an app for it at the moment, just a web app, but I could be wrong

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’d also recommend Ice Cubes on iOS, visually pleasing and pretty functional. And elk you can install as a half app thing where you click install from the url bar

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Just checked out Ice Cubes, pretty neat! Between Ivory, Ice Cubes, and Elk, I don’t know which to use! I’m currently paying for Ivory premium (or whatever they call it) but the other two are completely free to use from what I can tell. I don’t use Mastodon nearly as much as Lemmy anyway (I’d rather follow communities than people, plus I don’t know many accounts that I should follow on mastodon anyway)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Mastodon numbers are crazy when compared to the rest of the software on that list. Makes me wonder just how many are active users and/or how many search "Mastodon" after Musk bought twitter, made an account on mastodon.social and left it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Makes me wonder just how many are active users

MAU means "monthly active users". As you can see, the ratio MAU/users is not higher for Mastodon than it is for Lemmy.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

For me, Mastodon was not very user friendly. I still jump on it every now and then but I'm still not comfortable with it yet.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Out of curiosity, what were some things you found hard to get used to about Mastodon?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For me, Mastodon was actually quite nice once I started following hashtags.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

For me, Mastodon is a great metal band.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

@mbryson @maegul
According to the CEO of Mastodon last time I chatted with him, the software tracks log-ins, so people like me, who do not log out and in again, would be invisible. So I would say with a certain level of confidence that those are active users you are seeing. Unless he changed the code of course, but it did not seem to be high on his ToDo list.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

... and then went back to twitter, but did not deactivate their #Fediverse account.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Or like me, tried 3 different ones before finding a fourth that worked.

I'm not a Twitter person pes se but it was the only (that I knew about, sadly) decentralized thing on the web that could replace reddit.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I tried Twitter long long ago. I did not enjoy it. I tried Mastodon. And strangely I understand it better than I understand Twitter.

Weird I know. And I can't explain it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

It's amazing how fast it's growing. According to Lemmy Explorer, there are nearly 900 Instances, encompassing almost 13,000 communities. The forum software could stand some improvement, like having a way to group all your communities in one place, or figuring out whether an instance is federated. I really like the decentralized aspect of it. If a corporation tries to take over and ruin the largest instance (like what's happening to Reddit), then folks can migrate over the the second-most popular instance(s) while the biggest one withers and dies.

Also, Mastodon looks like a great replacement for Twitter.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Usualy being a very late adopter (buy stuff last, accept trends last, switch to norms late), I'm very happy I shutdown and deleted everything from my reddit account among the first, when spez bullcrap started, and went elsewhere, I joined squabbles, kbin and lemmy. But I'm here, I like the community, adoption and migration, and seeing the numbers tells me I'm not alone. Which is good.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Having recently given Lemmy (via the Jerboa app) & kbin (via just their web app -- since that's all there is) a test drive....

Lemmy is okay, but the app is extremely glitchy right now, throwing constant "unable to convert to JSON" errors. (I'm copying this comment before I hit submit, because I've already lost one lengthy comment due to those errors) FOLLOW-UP EDIT: I was never able to submit this comment via Jerboa, so here I am posting my comment on the website.

And Kbin is mostly just broken on phones.

The interface is completely confusing and cryptic. As far as I can tell, once you navigate off the home page, there are no links back?

And after several minutes of trying to subscribe to a "magazine", I finally figured out that the button is rendered off-screen, and you have to scroll to the right to find it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

The Sync for Reddit dev just announced that Sync for Lemmy is going to be developed. Sync for Reddit is one of the very high quality 3rd party reddit apps that will be shutdown later this month. So you've got that to look forward to.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Awesome! There's a pretty good dispersion as well.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Some small instances are seeing sudden increases in numbers of registered users (4k to 5k new users) but not an equivalent growth in activity, my guess is someone is creating accounts on instances without captcha enabled for account registration. Most of the top 10 fastest growing instances shown here fit that criteria.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@Odo Interesting. Lemmy is somewhat strict in its definition of "active user". You must post to be "active", so all lurkers aren't counted.

I'm not even sure commenting counts toward being "active", though I'd guess it does.

So user growth without growth in "active users", especially on smaller servers, is plausible.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I guess that's possible. The instances I mentioned look like this:

https://fedidb.org/network/instance/parapheum.com

2 posts, 1 comment overall.

It had 10 users two days ago and 4.6k today, not a single one of them seems to have posted or commented.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

@Odo

So going to that instance, and going to its list of federated communities (https://parapheum.com/communities/listing_type/All/page/1) shows a few sizeable ones. Also note the instance's description (see https://parapheum.com/) which is basically to distribute the server load without any commitment to any particular kind of community.

So, could be full of lurkers, or parallel accounts created to avoid server overload that will be soon dropped. So probably some bloat in these numbers, as there are for other platforms too

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Love to see the fediverse grow. We don't deserve these devs!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

It’s great seeing the fediverse grow! Really excited to be apart of the growth

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Not sure if I should just make a post for this, but I will ask here.

Is lemmy searchable? The main appeal of reddit for me was searchability. I see a lot of different instances with different domains names.Maybe there is a meta search or something? Adding reddit to the end of a search was very convenient.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

You can use this page, to search for communities (subreddits): https://browse.feddit.de/. You can also use https://sub.rehab/.

You can also just use the search function on your Lemmy instance (sh.itjust.works). It will also show content from other Lemmy instances.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

@iSharted

Interesting question!

Lemmy has a search facility (a magnifying glass icon, generally in the top right, or perhaps behind a menu).

And it's not bad, though rough around the edges I'd say.

It will only be specific to what your instance "can see", which is all the activity in all the communities that all its users subscribe to.

So, no "meta search". But it's an interesting idea given how it was part of Reddit's value.

No reason why one couldn't be made on top of the network though

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I’m surprised Lemmy is currently above kbin to be honest. Only time will tell.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@AskThinkingTim A few days ago, kbin wasn't on that list at all :) It's a huge honor for me, and I'm glad people are enjoying being here. Currently, my main goal is to prepare the infrastructure and sort out the basics. The real fun will start when migratories between platforms are established. This is the fediverse, and a lot can change here ;)

@fediverse @fediversenews @maegul

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

@ernest @fediversenews @AskThinkingTim

Yes! #kbin is super young and an upstart! Bright future!!

Are you teasing us here about migrations between platforms!?

Are you suggesting kbin<->lemmy migrations? Neither even have inter-instance migrations, right?

Or, kbin<>masto, microblogs platforms?!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

It's been around much longer.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

@AskThinkingTim I don't agree with the opinions of Lemmy devs, and I also find kbin more feature rich. But kbin is more in development than Lemmy (which has been for longer around) and started with more servers already. They basically managed decentralization better so far, and more servers started after the reddit migration.

That's not to say I am not subscribed to Kbin magazines, nor do I think that kbin has no chance. On the contrary. I just tried to explain the current situation 😁

@maegul

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My bad, i created 6 user accounts until i figured out how this thing works.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

So say we all.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Fediverse is growing fast.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

@maegul @fediverse @fediversenews Wow, that's some rapid growth! 🚀 Looks like the #Fediverse is on fire. 🔥 Just shows how much we all crave more control over our digital lives. Kudos to @dessalines and @nutomic and the whole Lemmy team, from underdogs to top dogs in no time! 🐕 #Decentralization #OnlineAutonomy @fediverse @fediversenews

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why is KBin at the very bottom with almost 42k MAU? It seems like it should be second with those numbers.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

This is ordered by total users.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

In my opion Lemmy has more potential then mastodon.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Well they're two completely different things, mastadon I am ideal replacement for twitter

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@vamp07

Curious why you think that (I’m inclined to agree FWIW).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I was able to figure out what my options were much more quickly. The UI of Kbin seems very sparse. If it offers similar functionality, it is not obvious. Also, I don't like combining "magazines" with "microblog". It seems like it wants to be all things to all people.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@vamp07 Yea, I agree, I think the combination done in kbin will be what some people want while others will prefer the relative focus and simplicity of lemmy.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I'm all for having choices. The thing about Kbin is that when I first land on the page I can't even figure out how to limit what I see to only what I am subscribed to. Maybe I need to spend more time, but that level of filtering or choice seems well hidden.