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[–] 85 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Every part of the world is. It's not unique to the US. Laws need to be passed to stop this.

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  • [–] 55 points 1 year ago* (6 children)

    Yes. Unfortunately, these systems are also a great gift for any upcoming fascist regime (like the Trump junta currently) which will not only happily continue using the existing infrastructure but also extend it like mad.

    Maybe humanity's greatest weaknesses overall: the lack of foresight and the lack of wisdom learned from historic precedents (e.g. Nazi Germany? Forgotten by now). Everything's always about short-term goals, ignoring any long-term disadvantages. See also: climate disaster.

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  • [–] 38 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Bet you $500 that the next democrat president won’t tear down the system and will in fact give even more contracts to Palantir & co.

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  • [–] 63 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    Uh, do the kids these days really not know about the post-9/11 Patriot Act?

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  • [–] 25 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    Well Obama 'fixed' it.
    Made it even more draconian but called it the Freedom Act.
    Shit like that works every time.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    God I miss the pre-9/11 US, when the worst thing happening was bad jokes on SNL about Bill Clinton and cigars.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Maybe not the best example.
    At that time this sleezebag (and others with power) got away with a lot of sexual misconduct.
    And in his case probably rapes.
    Minimising it as him being some naughthy schoolboy and making jokes about is not really something I miss.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I don't want to downplay sexual misconduct, but the issues we are facing right now are orders of magnitude higher.

    You will never find a perfect point it time where life is good for and harmonious everyone. The 90s had their problems, for sure, but the USA wasn't tearing itself apart, or bringing in and welcoming in a new wave of fascism.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I know that wasn't your intention, mentioned it bcs it just sounded weird and and unfortunate choice.
    " USA tearing itself apart" is the best thing that could happen to the world.
    I feel sorry for the handful of non-uniparty voters that have to suffer but as a European this feels like your country is getting a taste of its own medicine.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    Now read some books and see how much Bill Clinton is directly to blame for most awful shit we're dealing with today, and while you shouldn't come to justify 9-11, you'll understand its motivation correctly.

    Bill Clinton and neo-libs like him is why we go right instead of left as a society.

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  • [–] 61 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Is there a word for when the media is constantly like 3+ years behind with "warnings" like this? I mean Jesus Christ, turning into?

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    [–] 44 points 1 year ago

    it's already a surveillance state and both the red and blue party are complicit.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010s_global_surveillance_disclosures

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  • [–] 43 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Uh you mean since like, 2001?

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  • [–] 41 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    kinda been that way since 2001

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  • [–] 26 points 1 year ago*

    "Turning"?! "into"?!

    ig neither the glowies, nor Snowden, nor Manning exist

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  • [–] 25 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Where are all the "nothing to hide" people now.

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  • [–] 21 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    "Turning into" lol. The USA and all their partner countries like the ones in the 5 Eyes program have all been mass techno-surveillance states for decades.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    The 5 eyes countries are not allowed to spy on their own citizens, but they can freely share data.

    Isn't there an obvious loophole here.

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    [–] 12 points 1 year ago

    wait US is putting surveillance on techno producers?

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)

    Here's a 20 year old album about it (it's really cool that my favorite band is called ISIS. It's neat how they broke up in 2010 but I still can only wear the merch at home)

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    How hard did Musk press his fingers on his other hand? Or does his blood not flow that hard?

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