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[-] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

Are these people retarded? Did they forget Edward Snowden?

[-] [email protected] 85 points 1 week ago

Every part of the world is. It's not unique to the US. Laws need to be passed to stop this.

[-] [email protected] 55 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Yes. Unfortunately, these systems are also a great gift for any upcoming fascist regime (like the Trump junta currently) which will not only happily continue using the existing infrastructure but also extend it like mad.

Maybe humanity's greatest weaknesses overall: the lack of foresight and the lack of wisdom learned from historic precedents (e.g. Nazi Germany? Forgotten by now). Everything's always about short-term goals, ignoring any long-term disadvantages. See also: climate disaster.

[-] [email protected] 38 points 1 week ago

Bet you $500 that the next democrat president won’t tear down the system and will in fact give even more contracts to Palantir & co.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

Palantir have been with every president since it's inception. I once searched palintir, lotr 10+years ago, it was already well established by then

[-] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago

That's a capitalism weakness, not a human weakness though.

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[-] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

Laws aren't enough for something of this magnitude. The general population needs to grow to match the much greater challenges presented by modern technology, or we're going to descend into another dark age until we do learn how to behave.

[-] [email protected] 63 points 1 week ago

Uh, do the kids these days really not know about the post-9/11 Patriot Act?

[-] [email protected] 25 points 1 week ago

Well Obama 'fixed' it.
Made it even more draconian but called it the Freedom Act.
Shit like that works every time.

[-] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago

God I miss the pre-9/11 US, when the worst thing happening was bad jokes on SNL about Bill Clinton and cigars.

[-] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago

Maybe not the best example.
At that time this sleezebag (and others with power) got away with a lot of sexual misconduct.
And in his case probably rapes.
Minimising it as him being some naughthy schoolboy and making jokes about is not really something I miss.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

I don't want to downplay sexual misconduct, but the issues we are facing right now are orders of magnitude higher.

You will never find a perfect point it time where life is good for and harmonious everyone. The 90s had their problems, for sure, but the USA wasn't tearing itself apart, or bringing in and welcoming in a new wave of fascism.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

I know that wasn't your intention, mentioned it bcs it just sounded weird and and unfortunate choice.
" USA tearing itself apart" is the best thing that could happen to the world.
I feel sorry for the handful of non-uniparty voters that have to suffer but as a European this feels like your country is getting a taste of its own medicine.

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[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

Now read some books and see how much Bill Clinton is directly to blame for most awful shit we're dealing with today, and while you shouldn't come to justify 9-11, you'll understand its motivation correctly.

Bill Clinton and neo-libs like him is why we go right instead of left as a society.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

We sent all our manufacturing capabilities to China.

[-] [email protected] 61 points 1 week ago

Is there a word for when the media is constantly like 3+ years behind with "warnings" like this? I mean Jesus Christ, turning into?

[-] [email protected] 28 points 1 week ago
[-] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago

True... Though things have accelerated at an alarming pace over the past few years

[-] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

Better that they cover it than not. And the recent ramp up is worth reporting on, it's a new level of weaponization compared to previous administrations.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

I'm sure German could do a compound of "spät erkennen" or similar for a late realisation.

[-] [email protected] 44 points 1 week ago

it's already a surveillance state and both the red and blue party are complicit.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010s_global_surveillance_disclosures

[-] [email protected] 43 points 1 week ago

Uh you mean since like, 2001?

[-] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago

And by US, the author means the world.

[-] [email protected] 41 points 1 week ago

kinda been that way since 2001

[-] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

Since a bit earlier or so I've read.

[-] [email protected] 26 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

"Turning"?! "into"?!

ig neither the glowies, nor Snowden, nor Manning exist

[-] [email protected] 25 points 1 week ago

Where are all the "nothing to hide" people now.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

Probably realizing that Democrats can now trace who bought MAGA hats and they too have guns.

[-] [email protected] 21 points 1 week ago

"Turning into" lol. The USA and all their partner countries like the ones in the 5 Eyes program have all been mass techno-surveillance states for decades.

[-] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago

The 5 eyes countries are not allowed to spy on their own citizens, but they can freely share data.

Isn't there an obvious loophole here.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

Shhhh... Don't make it even more obvious. The fig leaf covering it is already so flaccid, that it might instantaneously turn into dust at the slightest disturbance.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

It’s almost like it was by design.

They also just spy on their own citizens anyway, because who is going to stop them?

[-] [email protected] 19 points 1 week ago

turning into? its been for a decade or more.

[-] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago

wait US is putting surveillance on techno producers?

[-] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Here's a 20 year old album about it (it's really cool that my favorite band is called ISIS. It's neat how they broke up in 2010 but I still can only wear the merch at home)

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

Panopticon is fucking brilliant...hands down my Favorite ISIS album.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

We are already there

[-] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

How hard did Musk press his fingers on his other hand? Or does his blood not flow that hard?

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