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How the US is turning into a mass techno-surveillance state (english.elpais.com)
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[–] 63 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Uh, do the kids these days really not know about the post-9/11 Patriot Act?

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  • [–] 25 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    Well Obama 'fixed' it.
    Made it even more draconian but called it the Freedom Act.
    Shit like that works every time.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    God I miss the pre-9/11 US, when the worst thing happening was bad jokes on SNL about Bill Clinton and cigars.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Maybe not the best example.
    At that time this sleezebag (and others with power) got away with a lot of sexual misconduct.
    And in his case probably rapes.
    Minimising it as him being some naughthy schoolboy and making jokes about is not really something I miss.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I don't want to downplay sexual misconduct, but the issues we are facing right now are orders of magnitude higher.

    You will never find a perfect point it time where life is good for and harmonious everyone. The 90s had their problems, for sure, but the USA wasn't tearing itself apart, or bringing in and welcoming in a new wave of fascism.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I know that wasn't your intention, mentioned it bcs it just sounded weird and and unfortunate choice.
    " USA tearing itself apart" is the best thing that could happen to the world.
    I feel sorry for the handful of non-uniparty voters that have to suffer but as a European this feels like your country is getting a taste of its own medicine.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    I'm not the OP, or an American, but yes I think a lot of the world is looking at them and feeling that they're getting their comeuppance.

    The problem is that America is truly too big to fail. Not that they can't fail, but they will drag the world down with them if they do. Global trade and global security is anchored to them, so while I want to see them slapped back to reality, I don't think we can afford for them to devolve into civil war.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    I don't agree with too big to fail.
    Yes it caused a lot of trouble already and they are dragging us (EU) down with them.
    Or better they're sacrificing us for their benefit.
    They aren't as important as they were for global trade and it is a catalyst to get rid of them sooner.
    And 'global security'?!
    That must be a joke, there is no bigger cause of destabilisation and war than that awful country.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    Now read some books and see how much Bill Clinton is directly to blame for most awful shit we're dealing with today, and while you shouldn't come to justify 9-11, you'll understand its motivation correctly.

    Bill Clinton and neo-libs like him is why we go right instead of left as a society.

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