It's perplexing how a nation that once liberated the world from fascism is now becoming fascist and triggering fascist movements worldwide.
Note that prior to getting involved in the war, there was substantial support for the Nazis among Americans. It's always been there. It just got swept under the carpet for a few decades, though if you go back and look at the politics of the fifties, you'll see mcarthyism and all sort of court cases on indecency and lots and lots of violence against homosexuals.
I don't think I spelled mcarthyism correctly. It's early and I'm not inclined to bother spell checking.
It should also be noted that Adolf Hitler based some of his ideology off of the proto-fascism of pre-Civil War America (and the deep racial inequalities which persisted afterwards), and praised it his book Mein Kamph.
Yeah, I'm absolutely not perplexed by American fascism in the slightest.
I think we can also show we didn't do what people think what we did when we look at things on a time line.
WW2 ended in 1945.
Emmett Till was murdered in 55. 10 years later. Ruby Bridges went to what was an all white school in 1960. That was 15 years later. The Civil Rights Act happened in 1964. 19 years later. The MOVE Bombing happened in 85. 40 years later.
The Stonewall Riots happened in 69. 24 years later. The UpStairs Lounge Arson attack happened in 73. Which was 28 years later. Harvey Milk was assassinated in 78. 33 years later. The Shelby bookstore murders happened in 87. So 42 years after.
We can sit here and list different events all day that happened after the war. We were the good guys off fighting evil, and those soldiers would totally hate the bigotry we see today... Except there's a good chance that tbe vast majority of them weren't any better. Even the black soldiers still weren't allowed to fight with the white ones. We were fighting fascism over there while it was still happening over here.
McCarthyism, close enough lol
Stopping fascism wasn't the point. After liberating the camps, they even threw the homosexuals right back in. (Source)
They were just worried that the USSR was going to beat them to Berlin, and then keep going across the entirety of Europe. Likely a valid concern, to be fair.
a nation that once liberated the world from fascism
It's gross how USAins keep parroting this nationalistic bullshit about their role in ww2.
You guys didn't liberate anything by showing up late for the war, and you tried your damnedest to spread your abhorrent racism in every country you landed in.
Yeah, nah. You had it right up until we didnt help liberate anything. France seemed pretty appreciative of our help then and now. Not arguing the "abhorrent racism" par it is true and we're continually working on it. Generational issues don't get solved overnight.
As a person of Dutch descent who is alive today because US GIs liberated a concentration camp right before my grandmother starved to death, this is extremely offensive, and you can go fuck yourself with your puerile contrarianism.
Shutting down a few concentration camps is not 'liberating the world from fascism'.
My grandparents and their families were in the camps too, and most didn't come out alive. I'm not detracting from the atrocities of ww2 by telling the American to stop spouting propaganda.
While a romantic prose, I wouldn't go saying they liberated the world of anything like that until it was almost too late.
But when they finally did fight, fuck yeah, they fought.
I love it, objected to by "Moms for Liberty". I guess that works in fascist land where words mean the opposite of what they are.
And leave it to one of these bullshit 'Liberty' or 'Patriot' organizations to completely distract from the point that Anne Frank was a teenage girl growing up in an attic, hiding from an insanely hateful political group/police who wanted to kill her and her entire family.
I should build a special little bookshelf with books banned by moms for liberty just for my kids.
Edit: talked to my SO, we're going to do a Little Free Library of them
"Moms for Liberty" is a straight up hate group. Like, I'm not doing that hyperbole thing. They are racist bigot fascists dead set on white, straight supremacy.
“This book adapted explicitly from writings at the time doesn’t depict the Holocaust accurately” fucking batshit
Moms for Liberty are just mad that the book doesn't portray the nazis as the good guys like their newsletter does.
They never have a problem with Mein Kampf.
America’s pearl clutching around all sexual topics is so insane to me. 13 year olds are gonna think about their genitals and who they’re attracted to, so why is it that we have to treat the idea of sexuality as taboo? God forbid adolescents don’t feel shame for completely normal feelings
I guess the long lasting cultural effects of antiquated abrahamic religion is the cause. But horrific violence? Meh no prob. Make war not love, I guess.
It's mass sexual abuse for mind control.
It's a way to keep the Christian nationalists to keep voting. True of all the culture crap keep Christ in Christmas and stuff like that. If they can't keep the religious bigots voting then it will really go badly for the trumpy grumpies.
The Dutch "Avondshow met Arjen Lubach" did a funny piece on this. A lot of people are laughing at the US, or it ultra-conservative parts at least, but it's a bit sad that's it's so bad, to be honest.
This is why I'll never tolerate people saying I'm exaderating when I call them Nazis ever again
I'm having problems parsing this sentence
They meant "exaggerating"
Heaven forbid we see the thoughts of a normal kid growing up in a war that she wouldn't see the end of.
If I wasn't an American I would find the back and forth idiocy of Texas and Florida hilarious. I mean, one does some crazy stupid shit and they other says hold my beer.
LOL, tell me II have to check if a book is approve before talking about it and it and I will resign on spot. I'm dead serious. Conservatives seem to see in schools ans teachers the new enemy. Teaching is an already shitty under-paid job, I suggest they stop pushing against people who take care of their spoiled stupid kids 40 hours a week, unless they want to take care of education themself.
unless they want to take care of education themself.
Oh, they do. That's part of the problem.
I can’t imagine why anyone would want to teach in a red state (or county, etc.) The pay is shit, you always have to think twice before even alluding to an unpopular truth, and every day you risk becoming a headline.
Because you are rooted there, you care about the people around you, and you want to improve things in your community. Not everyone is willing to just give up and leave their community to fascists.
I remember going to the Holocaust museum in 8th grade. How times have changed.
Glad I read the article. She wasn't fired for showing the book to hers students. She was fired for showing an unapproved book (which I then assume is not in the 8th grade curriculum) to her students. Teaching outside the curriculum is generally a big no no.
The question should be, why is that book not approved? That's a rhetorical question btw.
Despite claims by school officials that the adaptation had not been approved, KFDM notes that the book “was on a reading list sent to parents at the start of the school year,” so the district’s suggestion that the teacher “went rogue” seems…not true at all in the, y’know, actual sense of the word. A source close to the teacher told KFDM that the school’s principal had approved a syllabus that included the book. “There is an active investigation,” Mike Canizales, a spokesperson for the Hamshire-Fannett ISD, told the outlet.
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2023/09/texas-school-fires-teacher-over-anne-frank-graphic-novel
