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[–] 222 points 1 year ago (32 children)

Between this, the tarrifs and the brain drain, why would any manufacturers consider operating in the US anymore?

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  • [–] 102 points 1 year ago* (5 children)

    They'll still want access to Americans coz there are profits to be had, and they can price gouge under a fascist kleptocracy many orders of magnitude harder than elsewhere.

    What they don't understand is that the fascist leadership will backstab many/most of them eventually, especially if they possess any moral fiber whatsoever. Luckily for them, capitalism has already purged corporate leadership of morality and ethics.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    But if we don't have as much money due to increased prices on life essentials and assistance cuts, how are we supposed to buy all these things? Bad logic on their part, if this is their approach.

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    [–] 134 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

    Ah yes let's try to stifle Chinese innovation by ... checks notes ... expanding our surveillance state. Usually we are the ones calling China a surveillance state, but it's fine(it's not) once we do it.

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  • [–] 27 points 1 year ago

    Yeah. All the FUD about Huawei really solidified in my mind how stupid the average internet user is these days.

    It's like, everything they were bitching about has already been confirmed to be happening with US companies thanks to PRISM and the Snowden leaks.

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  • [–] 68 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Senator Tom Cotton

    Ah. Yeah, that tracks.

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  • [–] 53 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Famously he declared that slavery was justified because it was necessary to create the US:

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53550882

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  • [–] 62 points 1 year ago* (3 children)

    Oh Senator Know-Nothing....

    What are you going to do about firewalls and air-gapped networks? JFK you stupid asshole... GTFO

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  • [–] 58 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    Next up GPUs require always-on connections and Nvidia requires a monthly subscription to pay for that.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago*

    For just $19.99 a month you can have us track your GPU*, or choose the premium ad-free upgrade for just $149.99 a months, so you can enjoy your favorite games without ad breakes.

    ^^^* ^^^failure ^^^to ^^^comply ^^^will ^^^be ^^^punished ^^^by ^^^deportation

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  • [–] 50 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    This is absolutely insane and no one will want to buy those GPUs.

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    [–] 46 points 1 year ago

    Why would they make their own products illegal in Europe?

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  • [–] 42 points 1 year ago (28 children)

    ...okay, so invest in Chinese GPU companies? Invest in Chinese GPU companies.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago* (25 children)

    I looked into those recently, actually expected the GPUs to be a lot farther behind than they are. The things that are really pushing them back are the drivers and the outdated process node, but there are already GPUs comparable to the lower end current generation cards from the 3 big manufacturers on paper (and even those have 16GB of VRAM, Nvidia 😤).

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    [+] 37 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (8 children)
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    [–] 31 points 1 year ago* (5 children)

    How is this even legal? I am not even american nor living there, so how would the US be allowed to operate massive and unregulated surveillance through GPUs ?

    The US is becoming worse than those they call villain.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    The US has very low engagement of its voters, so even things that are illegal are starting to happen regularly.

    It's the same as so many countries, once a few rich guys get into power, as long as the guys with guns will take their money, it doesn't really matter what want, the government gets captured and corrupted.

    There's ways to fight it but it's a slog. I might give up. It's not my job to fix it, fixing things doesn't pay.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago

    If you're in Europe I'm pretty sure those chips would violate the hell out of the GDPR and as such can't be sold there.

    Even then, as posted in a different too level comment, this is just too easy to fake, or block.

    It's an idiot law for idiots

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    [–] 23 points 1 year ago* (3 children)

    Why do gpus need geo tracking? They're usually pretty stationary right?

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    Because China supposedly used Nvidia cards to train DeepSeek, which blew all of the US AI out of the water. And apparently that raised some eyebrows, because Nvidia wasn’t supposed to be selling to China (free market, right?). Since China was eating big tech’s lunch, they cried to republicans (and gave them a bunch of reelection money) and now we have this bill. The point is to be able to remotely disable cards if they’re outside of their sale region.

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  • [–] 23 points 1 year ago

    Yeah that is fun and all but I can at least guarantee you that that shit won't fly in Europe, and likely neither in Canada. I can only imagine other countries will be penning their own laws outlawing this.

    So tech giants then have the option to either go for separate chipsets for those countries or stip selling there.

    Also, how do you want to implement this? Have the GPU request GPS data from the computer? That won't be hard to forgr., but let's say you ge that, then what?

    You need to send that info somewhere or it'll be useless. How? Over the Internet? Ahw, my firewall told you to go fuck yourself. Over its own GPS line? A little bit of aluminum foil can do miracles.

    So what are you going to do then? Require an active internet connection for your GPU to work? Bwhahahahha. Have you seen gamers responses to games that require active internet connections to play? You won't sell shit.

    This is again a law designed by absolutely.emoty headed idiots tompleae some other empty headed idiots.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago

    Adversaries who are being treated to lower tarriffs than allies.

    Cooked country.

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  • [+] 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)
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    [–] 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Senator Tom Cotton's legislation seeks to "prevent advanced American TAIWANESE chips from falling into the hands of adversaries like Communist China."

    FTFY

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    [–] 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    People will just make custom firmware and drivers.

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    [–] 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (8 children)

    Capitalism is a system of whores. And there's nothing wrong with whores, but a whore is a whore. Good luck. It's going to be like trying to hold a bar of soap that's slipping out of your hands. You can keep grabbing at it, but it's just going to keep slipping. I just recall when America leaked nuclear secrets because soldiers were using a private private flashcard program and they forgot to check mark the box that said private. And so they ended up leaking all these secrets all over the internet. And let's not forget. The open source information that was used from some snot-nosed person on an osint account on twitter for targeting a supposed underground base, that cost the lives of innocent civilians via the Palantir and Peter Thiel's stupid AI. They did not get an underground base. They just wasted millions of dollars on something that wasn't there.

    It's like their plans are dystopic and terrifying, but they're not going to be able to implement them in a way that's worth a damn. And also, their actual product that they produce is so stupid that it's even more terrifying than the original idea. It's just straight up fucking madness. It's like, look mom, no hands. Then you fall off the goddamn bike and you're sitting there crying.

    This still remains. There is so much corruption and greed in this country that we can't even function as an empire. We can't even get a chip's factory figured out. We don't make shit. Everybody in this country is so goddamn lazy and stupid. I can't even find a noble cause because I feel like I'm just enabling stupid people. I'm sure we just operate off of bare necessities. Like the need to just stay alive one more day. But it gets to the point where it's like, what's the fucking point? This country is nonsensical. It's absurd. It's laughable. It's weak. It's limp dicked. And this happened way before Joe Biden or Trump. This has been a continuation ever since I've been alive for 40 fucking dumb ass years.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago

    Bruh... Literally 1984

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago

    Finally my Intel stock will rise. This will definitely force Nvidia GPU to be manufactured in the US with always on DRM.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    And how do they plan to do this? even if they add (GPS) tracking hardware the Chinese will just cut the connection to the Antenna and the GPU is gone. If they do it in software (like driver) it will just be patched out.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    How would that even work? But aside from that, I should probably upgrade my GPU before this goes into effect, even if the GPU I want will probably not be affected.

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