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[–] [email protected] 150 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 294 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (14 children)

So far Spez's legacy includes, in no particular order:

  • Changing other peoples' comments
  • Starting a war with the 3rd party app devs who made reddit the easily accessible platform it is (browsing reddit on the toilet wasn't nearly as common before the first apps came out, and all of the first ones were 3rd party)
  • Being a moderator on the jailbait subreddit, a community for sharing sexually suggestive pictures of underage teenage girls
  • Forcing new moderation teams on communities whose moderation he didn't agree with
  • Straight up lying about the 3rd party apps and their developers every step of the way

Way to go, Steve Huffman! You had a community of volunteers build your platform for you and now you're taking it all away from them. I'm sure this won't backfire.

[–] [email protected] 63 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (13 children)

spez is also a doomsday prepper who dreams about living as some sort of lord in a post-apocalyptic feudal society

β€œBeing around other people is a good thing. I also have this somewhat egotistical view that I’m a pretty good leader. I will probably be in charge, or at least not a slave, when push comes to shove.”

https://archive.today/20220703182824/https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/01/30/doomsday-prep-for-the-super-rich#selection-901.0-905.391

[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 year ago

I will probably be in charge, or at least not a slave, when push comes to shove.

In a post-apocalyptic world? That skinny nerd (not to be meant as a slur, I myself am a nerd)?

Yeah I sorta doubt that. He'd need to 1) not be an asshat and 2) have a fair bit more physical size, strength and fighting ability

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I have spent a lot of time with very rich people over the years for work and they will certainly bite it incredibly early in the apocalypse. If someone is born into wealth, they are almost always fundamentally inept in basic ways. The longer someone stays rich, the more inept and abstracted from the world they become. They are entirely ensconced in a bubble of their own making. Money opens so many doors and protects them from so many just basic consequences of living that they entirely forget that those obstacles exist.

They are also just constantly, constantly being glad-handed and yessir'ed into an excessive amount of confidence. They know it too, but they can't really trust anyone so they just make friends with people who they know would steal the wallet off their corpse but happen to be nicer about it than the other ones who would also do it because they have nowhere else to turn. Other rich people aren't trustworthy to them either because they are only either more or less rich, above or below them.

It'll go down pretty much how it did in the last third of the movie Triangle of Sadness. They are building bunkers that their handlers and others will actually live in. Not to mention that anyone that knows they were a potential engineer, actively or passively, of the downfall of man will have someone to take it out on right in front of them.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago

I wonder if this assclown realizes that his fortune will be worth fuck-all if society collapses, and with it goes his power.

" I also have this somewhat egotistical view that I’m a pretty good leader." No steve, it's 100% egotistical.

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[–] [email protected] 62 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I posted this previously elsewhere.

The statement from r/watchredditdie when they closed the sub really put things in perspective for me.

Steve Huffman and Alexis Ohanian have gone so far as to renege on their promise of listing Aaron Swartz among Reddit, Inc’s founders. Such an egregious breach of contract - only performed once their agreed-upon co-founder no longer walked the earth - could only be carried out by immoral individuals acting in fundamental bad faith. In this way and so many others, Reddit is dead.

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 year ago

Is your comment threatening him? Why are you blackmailing him, man? How is he going to work together with him now that you've so aggressively threatened him?

Why is your comment so badly coded? I can't help you optimize your comment, Google didn't help me write mine.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 year ago

I posted this previously elsewhere.

The statement from r/watchredditdie when they closed the sub really put things in perspective for me.

Steve Huffman and Alexis Ohanian have gone so far as to renege on their promise of listing Aaron Swartz among Reddit, Inc’s founders. Such an egregious breach of contract - only performed once their agreed-upon co-founder no longer walked the earth - could only be carried out by immoral individuals acting in fundamental bad faith. In this way and so many others, Reddit is dead.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Wow I didn't know he ran r/jailbait. Gross.

[–] [email protected] 74 points 1 year ago (4 children)

He was forcefully added as a mod on the subreddit. Reddit used to have a system which allowed you to make someone mod without requiring them to accept.

https://www.reddit.com/r/dankmemes/comments/1477psa/comment/jnuy0xf/

[–] [email protected] 52 points 1 year ago (4 children)

When people add you as a mod, you can still leave. He never did. That subreddit in particular was known to have the blessing of the reddit admins to operate and eventually made 'subreddit of the month'. Then a news org picked up that reddit was hosting this content and then they shut it down.

They were well aware of what was going on. Andrewsmith is right, there is some plausible deniability there, but with the everything else we know about Steve Huffman, I'm not so sure I can agree with his assessment that it was forced upon him.

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[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

While it's certainly better than actively moderating a community...

Is being the admin of a website that actively hosts jailbait and required a massive media outrage to finally remove it that much better? I get free speech and all, but I mean, the subreddit straight up catalogued which pictures were "fap material" and encouraged people (including parents) to take candid photos of the children around them.

A community like that wouldn't last a millisecond in a server I host.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Changing other peoples’ comments

Wait the guy changed someone's comment?

[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 year ago

Yeah he changed one comment saying: "Fuck u/spez" by replacing "spez" with one of the r/the_donald mods. This was also done silently so no * to indicate the comment had been edited.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yes. I believe it was people on the donald subreddit, which could be seen as funny, because most sane people (myself included) don't agree with them politically, but it's still a huge misuse of admin powers and proof that he has no integrity. Can't let other peoples' rights be violated if we want to keep our own.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah, he got busted for it and wrote a half asked apology claiming he would change. Claimed he was just trolling...

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yea this will kill Reddit. Maybe not right away but soon.

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[–] [email protected] 80 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Honestly not too surprising. But good luck moderating the bigger subs without the old volunteers.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 year ago (19 children)

It's an absolute non-starter. The amount of random... I'm a medium fish there and there's SO MUCH you have to know to mod a sub, plus you're constantly in PR mode with the users to keep everyone happy and enjoying your work. Communication skills. Bot wrangling and sometimes creation. Automod. Css. Rule modifications. Enforcement and reviewing existing threads for rule violations. PLUS you have to know the existing culture or you're gonna make everyone mad.

I kinda want to see it. Reddit would explode.

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[–] [email protected] 73 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

Everybody knows that it was bound to happen. Reddit is hopeless and the blackout on its own won't do good in the long run.

That's why I'm trying to kick this off:

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (19 children)

~~If you're EU you can~~ All those in EU can ask reddit for the entirety of your data as a GDPR request, much easier than downloading it yourself, especially since some apps have limits to how many posts they can fetch.

How to request your reddit data

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[–] [email protected] 68 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Deleted my account, removed Apollo, starting to feel at home on Lemmy. No way I’m going back.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 year ago (4 children)

The experience has been a lot smoother than I expected.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Agreed. Feels like reddit but 15 years ago, before the dark times, before the Empire - Loving it so far, and reminds me of how the internet used to be this huge frontier before Corporations, Shareholders, and Advertisers moved in and ruined everything.

These Communities are smaller and some of the more niche groups aren't here yet but that will change with time. Give it a year or two, and I'm sure those obscure, hilarious groups like Greendawn will migrate over, over.

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Is it just me or is this going directly against what Reddit once aimed to be?

[–] [email protected] 59 points 1 year ago

Corporations and Shareholders ruin everything

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 1 year ago (13 children)

This is why they need to link an alternative like Lemmy and encourage to share it around.

Reddit doesn't disallow mods from posting "Join us on Discord" and this will create a slow and steady move to a new platform.

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (10 children)

They should tread lightly. Reddit in no way has the ability to function (edit: at least on short notice) without volunteer mods. To some degree they can find scabs, but I honestly don't know how many and how good.

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 year ago (3 children)

This post seems somewhat disingenuous. One of the mods Cedarwolf posted his side of what happened 2 hours prior to this post appearing, and if we were to believe his side of the story the top mod who hasn't been active for a year just decided to join the blackout against other mods wishes.

Yes, it's two conflicting stories but he claims to have evidence that he's been inactive. Basically, people should look into this more than assume truth in the headline.

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We can only hope reddit dissappoints their moderators so much they'd rather moderate lemmy communities :)

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'll watch spez digg this grave. I'm not shocked, we have all seen it happen before.

This place feels real, and personally that's all that matters. Reddit has been plastic for a while now. I'm happy to watch the ceo handle it like such a stooge, it almost seems like he wants to tank the company before tencent eats it all up.

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 year ago

i love that they're making this extreme choice over fucking advice animals which haven't been relevant in literally 10+years

[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 year ago (9 children)

I think that anyone who's been around reddit long enough knew this was coming. Reddit isn't a free and open platform, and never was. The admins allowed moderators free reign just so long as they didn't do anything that reddit didn't want.

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 year ago

Saw this coming the moment the blackouts were being planned

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago (12 children)

I just returned for a couple of minutes and it’s a fucking shitshow. I don’t know if it has become worse or if it just feels like that because Lemmy is much more friendly, but Reddit seems to be much more toxic right now.

It is also so obvious that people are trying to use this as some kind of coup. Users interact with the thematic, get explained what the blackout is about, just to comment complete bs about it one comment later. They are acting dumb to gain momentum.

I really hope this will end up in a worldpolitics situation.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It isn't surprising at all, it's about hard money not about communities and fuzzy warm feelings. It seems everyone is working hard down at Reddit to make as much money as they can out of an IPO for a zombified carcass.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Wait...the comment seems to indicate that the primary mod did not want to go dark, and an inactive mod came in and made it go dark. I understand being upset...but this does not seem like anything a Reddit admin would do?

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yep. The idea that Reddit Admin did this to nullify the blackout was suspect from the start. Why would it only be on r/AdviceAnimals? Lol

People are mad at Reddit right now and we're looking for any reason to confirm their bias and run away with their narrative.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It was a matter of time before the admins started doing this. Fuck Spez, you piece of shit

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The way things are going R*ddit is going to become what Digg is today - a minimalist editor run link agreggator

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lemmy should make itself as much like Reddit as it possibly can except for the small handful of money-grubbing cunts who'd rather destroy communities than allow them to exist without profiting from them.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That's why we desperately need downvoting, making fake stories sink to the bottom.

my 2 'cents

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago

This is informative and unfortunate.

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