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[–] [email protected] 4 points 15 hours ago

oh hell yeah. Ben was always the good one, he came to my school and talked about how selling out to evil ass Unilever allowed them to actually do a lot of charity work. Jerry was nowhere to be found.

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[–] [email protected] 303 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Fuck NBC for labeling their protest as "pro Gaza" instead of the much more accurate "anti-genocide". I realize that our media is almost entirely owned by like 12 billionaires, but it still chafes.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 18 hours ago

The clip I saw was him yelling about feeding kids in Gaza and pointing out that they were stripping Medicaid from poor kids here. It's such a deceitful way to frame it.

[–] [email protected] 86 points 2 days ago (3 children)

They stopped saying pro-hamas so we might get there, one day..

[–] [email protected] 6 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

Saying “pro-Gaza” in my opinion is code for bigot. At this point there is nothing you can do to justify why those people have to be killed. No reason to justify why they can’t have land to live on. No reason why caring about fellow humans is a the wrong side.

If you are defending the right for the state of Israel to commit genocide (which apparently isn’t the worst crisis on this planet according to a BBC kyron from April I saw quoting the UN; it was about Sudan I believe) by continuing to wipe out Palestinian people, for existing, you are not a good person.

Therefore, switching pro-Hamas to pro-Gaza is literally acknowledging that they are no longer covering up the lie. These people used to lump everyone in with Hamas when there is historical evidence that the Palestinian people are not a monolith which supported the terror group. In fact there is historical evidence that politicians in Israel have always meant for the two groups to be equated. All the label changing does is tell you that they have hatred for people living in Gaza.

The same applies to Israel and the Jewish people. Just because someone does not agree with the actions of the Israeli government and/or military, does not mean they have hatred towards Jewish people. That unfairly puts actual Jewish people into a group of antisemites. Being anti-Israeli ≠ antisemitism. Being anti-Jewish = antisemitism.

I really wish the world could be a place where humans were respected as individuals who should exist because they are all different. Instead history shows that lots of us believe humans should only be respected as individuals because they are the same. No. We should respect each other because we are different. That doesn’t mean I need to like you or accept what you do as a person. But your existence should be seen as beautiful. I should be able to celebrate the fact you are different from me in many ways. We don’t have to get along but you as a person belong here. No one should tell you that your race, ethnicity, nationality, religion, sex, gender, political beliefs, etc. mean your kind should cease to exist. I’m not saying that you need to love the bigot that lives next door, but that you can respect that they exist and that there are many more people who are uniquely different.

IDIC

Infinite Diversity in Infinite Combinations

[–] [email protected] 5 points 17 hours ago

Long after the Palestinian people have been exterminated

[–] [email protected] 2 points 18 hours ago

We will get somewhere, but I'm not sure it'll be a good place. Here's my prediction of how it will go:

Once Gaza and the West Bank are fully and exclusively populated by Israelis and American tourists, once the Palestinians have all been slaughtered or run out of their own country, once all the dust has settled and resort hotels have been built on top of all the mass graves, then and only then will our news agencies finally refer to what happened as a genocide. Some well-known news anchor will look into the camera with weary eyes and a little ribbon pinned to their lapel, they'll take on a somber tone, and they'll say "never again". Someone will win a Peabody for the story. And just as society starts to believe those words, "never again", the history of those events will be banned from schools and libraries, and those teaching it will be fired and jailed. The memo will come down from corporate and that same news anchor will again appear on TV. They'll look into the camera with a sparkle in their eye, flashing their overly white news anchor smile, and talk about how all the trans people being rounded up and put into camps is definitely not a genocide, and saying so means you hate God.

"This is Jim Tradman for Channel Five News, signing off. Blessed are the fruit, under His eye."

But then, I'm a bit of a pessimist.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 day ago

I fucking hate it.

Unless you express breathless support for Netanyahu you're an anti-semitic pro-hamas scum bag.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago

anti-genocide is less specific as there are multiple ongoing genocides

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[–] [email protected] 149 points 2 days ago (16 children)

Wait, has Ben & Jerry's always been this based?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

Yes. Which is why I don't mind spending 8 fucking dollars on a pint of Cherry Garcia every now and then (it is really good though).

The parent company that bought them a while back, Unilever, sucks though. Part of their agreement included making sure they wouldn't interfere with their political activism.

Well, they did. I think they're currently in court over it.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

Yes.

Colin Kaepernick's flavor slaps. And not just because it pissed off Conservatives. It's one of their best flavors.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

Never even seen that one... My all time favorite is the Willie Nelson Peach Cobbler flavor, but apparently that ones gone forever 😢

[–] [email protected] 1 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

You may still be able to get it at one of their creameries.

If I make it back to Burlington VT I'll def see if I can try it

[–] [email protected] 2 points 15 hours ago

I looked it up a while back, and I'm pretty sure it's retired. But maybe not...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 15 hours ago

In march, Unilever (B&J's parent company) fired B&J's CEO because he was expressing too many activistic opinions on social media. They're a bunch of hippies. Than they sued Unilever and they got their CEO back. Now the founder is getting arrested.

[–] [email protected] 149 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Pretty sure they endorsed Bernie back in the day. They're definitely hippies.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 2 days ago (8 children)

Shame that whole "peace and love" thing didn't catch on

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

The hippie movement was coopted by the elites early on, which is why they stopped talking about economic justice and focused more on concepts like "free love", "equality", drug use, and other cultural focuses.

Those hippies (namely Steve Jobs) later went on to define our current Big Tech industry.

Meanwhile, when a strong leader arises who starts to sound a little too much like a socialist (MLK Jr.), the state murders them.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago (2 children)

MLK has a good rep today because of the non violence. Malcolm X and the Black Panthers were just as if not more influential for change, but they're completely ignored in schools and media today.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

For anyone who grew up learning about MLK Jr and not Malcolm X -

I'd recommend a book called "The Sword and The Shield"! I thought it did a dope job comparing and contrasting the two figures. Importantly, MLK Jr was way more radical than many of us were taught in school, and by the end of his life he was changing his approach, having been forced to acknowledge that non-violence alone wasn't going to cut it. In other words he became more aligned with Malcolm's principles and beliefs as he watched the civil rights movement struggle and falter, and I believe this is ultimately why he was killed.

And then our lords and masters de-fanged his legacy, teaching generations of kids only the non-violence, giving millions the false idea that non-violence alone is enough, and not just enough, but the preferred and historically-proven method of achieving change.

It never has been and never will be, non-violence is only effective alongside credible threats of violence (at a minimum), and Martin and Malcolm both knew that to their core. That book helped me correct what was a confusing hole in my understanding of the world.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 17 hours ago

Thanks for the book recommendation!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (3 children)

You're very correct, but that's not the point I was trying to make.

Also schools definitely cover Malcom X and the Black Panthers just as much as MLK Jr., or at least my public school did.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 16 hours ago

Not my experience. Maybe briefly covered Malcolm, but if we learned anything about him and/or the Black Panthers at all, it was always in a negative light.

I had never even heard the name "Fred Hampton" until I was in college.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (2 children)

That wasn't my experience whatsoever and to me yours sounds uncommon. Not being combative with you, I promise, I just worry and wonder how successfully Malcolm X (et al.) has been whitewashed from history.

Edit: redundancy

[–] [email protected] 7 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Both Malcolm X and MLK Jr. (and every other civil rights activist throughout history) have been severely whitewashed in general.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 hours ago

I would argue Malcom X might be more demonized than white washed. They told me his violence was why he didn't succeed.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 21 hours ago

Same here, Malcom X practically read like a footnote to me when I was taught by my school

[–] [email protected] 5 points 22 hours ago

I wasn't countering you, just adding my voice to your plea.

That's good that those were covered for you. I can tell you the coverage on that in my corner of the South is absolutely lacking.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 day ago

Ben & Jerry’s gives out free ice cream at various progressive protests here in Australia. It is delicious and amazing for morale.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 day ago

Pretty much, yeah. Although they did sell their company to Unilever, so the company itself is not so based.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 2 days ago
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[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 day ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago

Larry David

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[–] [email protected] 79 points 2 days ago (2 children)

If you watch the video the cops assault the protestors which is so crazy. I get you can remove the people and am not surprised cops acted this way it's just so disgusting to see.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 2 days ago

ACAB wasn't made up for fun

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Ben & Jerry’s parent company is Unilever. Their stock is currently 60.60 usd. Let’s see if it climbs after this.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

Yeah, they sold it to Unilever like 20+ years ago. What's your point, exactly?

[–] [email protected] 49 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Unilever is a shitty company.

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Officers physically removed Cohen and six other pro-Gaza protesters, and charged them with crowding, obstructing and incommoding — a misdemeanor offense. It is against the law to protest inside congressional buildings. All but Cohen also faced charges of resisting arrest and assault on a police office, Capitol Police said.

Deal offer incoming.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 days ago

assault on a police office

Understandable: those damn demonstrators hitting the officers' fists with their faces was really nasty.

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