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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gandi
This one is in the top registrars ever to exist and is very old as well. Coincidentally also not in USA. Other rivals of "greatness" are things like porkbun (USA) and namecheap (USA)
Looks like other users say gandi has gone downhill. Couldn't recommend any over porkbun though so good luck.
What's up with everyone in this comment section shilling registrars with abysmal customer reviews? Lol. The only one that even has remotely good reviews is Mythic Beasts.
Anyways, I'd like to recommend IONOS (German). Their service has been flawless so far, and I haven't seen any reports of bad customer either.
Been using Strato (subsidiary of IONOS) for a few years now as well and got no complaints. Plus its only 12€/a for a .de or .eu domain.
I can highly recommend Mythic Beasts (UK).
There is no upsell or variable pricing and they make money by charging a flat rate on top of the cost from their supplier. See this blog post for more info
I use them as well, never had any issues.
They have a useful API I leverage to manage DNS entries with scripts and cron jobs which is probably fairly standard these days but seemed to be a little harder to find when I first moved to them.
Does their final price already include WHOIS protection?
Yep
Nice. Cheers!!
Canuck here. I've been moving all my domains from porkbun over to OVH. I still use desec.io for the DNS since they're based in Germany and like to keep it separate from the registrar.
If OVH plays its cards right they're going to be getting a lot more business from those looking to dump GCS, AWS, and Azure.
I found OVH quite confusing. Do they upsell you like crazy (e.g. is WHOIS protection an upsell)? I don't want to create an account on purpose just to find out.
No upselling. Yes they might have something in the order process. Like when ordering a VPS you can add windows os or some control panel type software. I didn't pay anything extra and my domains all have private whois details when lookups are done. The one thing they did offer in the order process for domain transfer was something to do with anycast DNS, but it was just a box on the page and wasn't in your face or annoying.
No annoying emails either. I only get emails from them related to services I purchased from them which include changes to whois contacts(also usually get a email from CIRA for my .ca domains), bill PDF being ready for download, or additional IP is available and ready for use etc.
No upselling.
Bullshit. Within minutes of registering just to look at some stuff I got spammed with all sorts of bullshit via email. Custom one-off throwaway email alias.
Thats unfortunate. I simply shared my experience. Been a customer for over 5 years so maybe they've changed their on boarding of new customers and the emails that are sent out.
Understood 🫡 thanks for that. I am generally happy with IONOS however their DNS propagation seems to take forever. I have a new domain I bought a couple days ago and my email provider's DNS still hasn't propagated... I thought we were past the 72h propagation era, but I guess not with everyone.
OVH no problems for years.
BUT choose domain that is also maintained by non-US organization.
Like national TLDs from the EU, or fancy like one., cloud., ...
Is .dev maintained by the US?
It is, I just checked, by a subsidiary of google
That's unfortunate :(
You can easily check it by WHOIS:
$ whois dev.
% IANA WHOIS server
% for more information on IANA, visit http://www.iana.org/
% This query returned 1 object
domain: DEV
organisation: Charleston Road Registry Inc.
address: 1600 Amphitheatre Parkway
address: Mountain View CA 94043
address: United States of America (the)
# the rest of output omitted
And some hints gives Wikipedia: List of Internet top-level domains.
I moved all my domains over to FullHost.ca from NameCheap and they’ve been pretty good so far. As far as I can tell, they’re just a reseller but their support has been really good.
Hello!
I was a 20 years old customer of GANDI. My advice is now to use Bookmyname or OVH.
Hey I just bought a domain for the first time, from Gandi. Could I ask you, what made you take that decision?
Hello, sure you can ask :-)
GANDI was bought by Strikwerda Investments and then they raised their price.
For instance for a .net domain it was around €15 and now it's more than €20 for a new domain name. If you want to keep the domain in GANDI the renew is around €38.
I think it will work with GANDI, you still have the choice to change after if you like.
ovh is french and has quite the following in Europe
OVH here, both domains, dedi server and a VPS.
Has an API to get an cert you want, even for non internet facing stuff
I use INWX (based in Germany). Prices are consistently low (not always the cheapest, but fair). The web UI is a bit rusty, but it works perfectly and you can manage everything there.
I use https://njal.la/ it's based in Sweden started by the co founder of Pirate Bay
Those reviews don't look very inspiring, not gonna lie. Also, their About page says their service is run from Costa Rica?
Ultimately I don't think these "privacy-first" domain registrars are a great choice, which is a rare thing to say about an internet service.
But you're dealing with private property here and being ICANN-accredited (which Njalla isn't) is kind of important if you're gonna do something serious with your domain. You want those protections that excessive privacy won't permit having.
Njalla is what you use if you don't want your name plastered all over the domain for various reasons
Its also what you use if you want to have your domain stolen, apparently.
Their trust pilot page is a shitshow, but I've had few problems in the 7 years I have used them. I have 9 domains registered, one of which is not possible to get back since I'm required to provide proof that I live in Sweden (.se domain). Wasn't the case when I initially bought it in 2018.
Keep an eye on the price. I recently switched my .be domains from Gandi to Dynadot. 36 vs 6.8 euros per year, I had no idea such a difference was possible. Fuck Gandi.
porkbun (USA) generally has the best prices and will give you a massive list of everything as well which most other sites won't. I generally get my sites for 10 years at a time ~ $2 per year (whenever some random TLD is on sale)
I'm on porkbun for some other domains, very happy with them. Except for them not offering .be domains... :)
call them up and ask them why they don't lmao. I actually did have to call them once for a company thing and someone in Oregon picked up.. Unheard of service.
Not a bad idea! I usually let my money do the talking, and just move if a company doesn't offer what I need. But I might make an exception in this case, thanks for the tip!
Lol yea I figured it was some governmental reason but I see name.com etc has .be so no idea why they wouldn't have it. Some TLDs have specific restrictions and only allow certain sites to resell it
Gandi got sold 2 times
Basically the company went from “no bullshit” to “just another asset for some capitalist fund who only cares about extracting as much value as possible”
It would be so good to have a no profit owned or cooperative European domain seller
https://www.infomaniak.com/en Swiss based. I'm very happy with mine, never add issue :)
I was going over a bunch of alternatives last week and ended up creating an account here too. Haven't bought anything yet, but hopefully I will move my namecheap domain here. Seemed to be the one with most available domain extensions with a price tending to be cheaper and even some discounts. Looked and joker and inwx but either didn't have some interesting domains or were quite expensive. Specially inwx which only understood after creating and account that on top of each domain price I would need to add 5€ for basic whois privacy protection. On infomaniam it seems to be 2.5€ which combined with cheaper prices doesn't sound so bad.
I really wish there was a simple provider that only did one thing: sell domains in europe, with all domains possible and cheap enough prices.
inwx.de
I just wish more of the non-US ones supported .ca domains. :(
Easydns.ca
I've been a happy customer with joker.com (Germany) for at least 10 years.
Like the best kept secret of domain registrars
I use IONOS.