I agree, but there's is also the reallity that if you have no hobbies and no passions other than gooning you're going to come off as pretty uninteresting and boring to most people. Some would call that being low-value

I've learned from my female friends that the bar for men is so fucking low. Basically shower regularly, listen to what other people say, know how to keep your home relatively clean and don't be a creep and you're immediately in the top 30%

Incels are low value men...but not for the reason they think

It's the attempt to understand dating through tech bro economics.

The look at supply/demand (swipes), and decide their value based on the demand of the "market" is.

It's deranged

A "low value man" is a man that tries to decide another ones value.

No one else can decide your value.

Others can decide over your value inside their own socials context, which lead to the value-judging person and their peers to act accordingly towards you.
If you apply this value to yourself or reject it and if other contexts and groups adopt the value is an other story.

They confided in each other that they both have low self esteem

I dunno. my broke ass probably lol

lol so basically the premise of incelibacy is that there is a hierarchy of men (hence all the "alpha" or "beta" shit".) What you are was given out at birth (so yay, biological essentialism). they believe some traits highly valued by women (height, beauty, etc) and these were handed out at birth. If you are short, or slight, or bulky, they believe that no one can find you attractive (the black pill), no matter what other traits you cultivate. They are convinced no one might have any other taste, they have to look like Chris Hemsworth. So imagine a scale with Chris Hemsworth at the top, and everyone who doesn't look like that having "low value."

Imagine the world is a video game. Higher value characters of the race man would have things like a high earning job (a good class), a decent amount of wealth, high physical stats, high charisma. Low value characters would have a terrible class (smelly gamer), stats they believe are skewed towards intelligence, and no money.

If your world view is like this except you also believe there are hidden stats you can't ever change(like looks), and you're in a capitalist nightmarescape where even changing your class and amount of wealth is typically impossible, then you've accidently an entire incel.