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[–] [email protected] 96 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Swaying them to vote...for who? Remind me which US political party would align with Chinese interests. Are they staging a massive coup for the CPUSA?

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[–] [email protected] 79 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The dialogue in this next US election is gonna be really ugly for Asian-Americans.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago (3 children)

For sure, lots of questioning loyalties and "you're not a real American if you don't vote X side".

Wonder what new slur they'll create for Asians similar to the one they created for Russians last year...

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

i don't think that the question is about voting for x, your loyalties will be questioned based on your looks, so it's going to be really bad for people of asian descent, even if u were born in the country or are there many generations. we seen this in world war 2, when japan attacked, the government made concentration camps for japonese people, even tho they had no involvement in the war or even any ties to japan

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago (3 children)

lol reminds me of that old reddit comment thread of some really pissed off white person going "eliminate all of those Asians".

Another user from SEA: "Just the Chinese, the rest of us are good"

First guy: "NO, ALL OF YOU"

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago (2 children)

These stupid crackers think we're all Chinese anyway. Even if they made the distinction mentally they wouldn't actually conduct their hate crimes with any accuracy.

COVID hate crimes targeted Filipinos, Koreans, Vietnamese, etc.

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[–] [email protected] 71 points 1 year ago (3 children)

To Sway US Voters in which direction?

To the party that hates China (Blue) or the party that hates China (Red)?

[–] [email protected] 68 points 1 year ago (12 children)

The funniest part here is that these kinds of articles sowing mistrust in the electoral process are doing far more damage than China could ever hope to achieve. Both liberal and conservative media continue to fuel the idea that elections are rigged and that the other side is cheating to win. US is now at a point where large portions of the public think that elections are unfair and if their party doesn't win that must be because the other side cheated or some foreign actor interfered in the elections.

Democracy is fundamentally a social contract that people choose to abide by. People have to believe that the system is fundamentally fair, and when their side loses then they have to accept that as a democratic choice. However, once the trust in the system is broken then there is no reason to respect election results. At that point people see the winner as an illegitimate tyrant that rules over them. The country ends up in a very volatile territory once the idea that the system is rigged starts to take hold.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's the ingeneous sit back and let the US slowly destroy itself strategy that seems to be working out pretty well.

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[–] [email protected] 69 points 1 year ago (2 children)

"The report provided limited examples of the recent activity and did not explain in detail how researchers attributed the posts to China."

Everytime

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago

"The report provided limited examples of the recent activity and did not explain in detail how researchers attributed the posts to China."

Sounds like a sh.itjust.works power poster.

YOU ARE ALL BOTS I WILL CONTINUE TO YELL AT YOU BUT YOU'RE ALSO BOTS maybe-later-honey

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[–] [email protected] 68 points 1 year ago (1 children)

source: their ass

What interest would they have in swaying voters between 2 different wings of the same imperialist party that both want the destruction of the PRC lol

[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 year ago

xigma-male: "Let's mess with their political system. As a joke."

[–] [email protected] 65 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Beginning to think that Americans on social media are feeble minded babies with no agency of their own swayed in whichever direction foreign shills and bots want to take them in.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's not just Americans. It's anyone who stays on social media for too long. You can actively defend for some time, but if you spend 4-5 hours a day on Facebook, you're bound to get trapped in this shit.

Hell, even here on Lemmy there are instances full of nutjobs circlejerking over the political flavor of the week...

[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

The bigger point is that the USA is pretty much the technological leader of the world and a frontrunner in information warfare. All the major social media companies have to have close ties with the US state department to be able to function at the scale at which they do. So why is it that Russo-Chinese bots and shills are running circles around Americans?

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Projection, as always. Ever heard about google ads running pro-ukraine videos? Or perhaps about auto-callers, dialing numbers in Russia with pre-recorded anti-government messages?

And that's even before we get into the NGOs

[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 year ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Russiagate has always been copium for Western liberals who cannot accept the fact that reactionary tendencies are weaved into the fabric of their culture and institutions so they tell themselves bullshit like how their redneck racist uncle only voted for Trump and is anti-abortion because Putin seductively whispered some arcane incantation in his ear. In truth Russia's propaganda is not very effectual

  • In 2017 before RT was shut down in the UK, it accounted for 0.04 percent of the UK’s total TV audience.[1]
  • A New York University study published earlier this year found that the supposed Russian Twitter influence campaign ahead of the 2016 election which dominated headlines for years had had “no measurable impact in changing minds or influencing voter behavior”.[2]
  • An earlier study found that suspected Russian accounts showing up in Facebook’s news feed during that time amounted to “approximately 1 out of 23,000 pieces of content.”[3]
  • A study by Adelaide University found that despite headline after headline warning us about a massive wave of Russian bots manipulating online discourse after the invasion of Ukraine began last year, the overwhelming majority of fake accounts they examined (more than 90 percent) were pro-Ukraine accounts.[4]

[1] https://www.newstatesman.com/comment/2022/02/rt-is-irrelevant-banning-it-would-just-give-putin-propaganda

[2] https://archive.is/9NKXl

[3] https://archive.is/6Xyld#selection-1327.271-1327.321

[4] https://declassifiedaus.org/2022/11/03/strongmassive-anti-russian-bot-army-exposed-by-australian-researchers-strong/

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

why is it that Russo-Chinese bots and shills are running circles around Americans?

We’re just better, okay? The Americans will swallow anything. china under the bed

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[–] [email protected] 63 points 1 year ago (2 children)

honestly you're a failed country if other powers can so easily tamper with your elections.

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[–] [email protected] 60 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ok so, Putin sponsoring Trump sounds ... eh, at least there's some kind of proximity in discourse

But who the fuuuuuck do they think China is willing the burgerlanders to vote for??? The communist party??? There are two electorally viable parties and both are super anti-China. It just doesn't make sense

[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 year ago

Russiagate got stale so they're going to use Chinagate this time lol

[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 year ago

For a country that harps on about personal responsibility we sure do blame everybody but ourselves for the fact posting racist Facebook memes is an effective way to influence the beliefs of 60% of this country.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This never happens in Burgerland!

*Youtube recommends the following videos from expert-shapiro and up-yours-woke-moralists and pronouns *

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm glad that I never seen that 3rd dude.

Peter Jordanson and Bench Appearo I have seen in my recommended despite detesting both of these incoherent fools.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (11 children)

That guy shit his britches when he got to the pronoun selector in starfield's character creation

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I guess the "Russiagate" stuff only goes so far.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Can't wait for this to get called "Yellowgate"

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[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Russia, one day; China, the next. Perhaps, Iran, after that?

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What's that thing the World always does when one superpower takes on a whole coalition at once? Yeah, get ready for one of those.

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is Microsoft trying to win some huge government contract? I don't understand why they would put their neck out there like this. I imagine China is a big market for them.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

How would Microsoft even know this? They make software, they're not a counter espionage group. It's just some poor appeal to authority or something.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Microsoft definitely has a large enough employee base of security dweebs to put together a team to do stuff like this for a government contract

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 year ago

First as farce, then as farce again

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago (3 children)

War with Russia is ended china is new best war

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago

So what's the "Chinese AI" saying, grandma?

I'm what? No no no, my tone is fine its just-

I KNOW you saw it on your feed but thats not the same as news gr-

Ok, ok. No, Im not trying to bother you. Do you know if the AI-

Yes, yes, I know he's a Dictator grandma, you told me. Did the-

No? Ok well why dont you google it?

It's active there too? .....Oh. Sure.

Too many..? No grandma, that was like four questions. Bye! (hangs up)

  • Simulation of your relatives discovering this article
[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago

This is stolen valor, I've been a Chinese bot since before they invented AI

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago

And people will believe it too. Amazing how many idiots exist.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago

Chinese ai on social media to sway US voters

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago

Ukraine 2: Taiwan Boogaloo coming soon in Spring 2024

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

AI? more like "ay, I'm votin' ova heah"

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

this article is just- what??

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago

This won't work nearly as well as Russiagate considering most of America is expecting someone to cheat in the upcoming election.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago

Reliable nonaligned 3rd party Microsoft says...

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm sorry you had to find out like this. It's true. I've been a bot all along 🤖🇨🇳

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