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[–] 125 points 2 years ago (14 children)

Saw him play recently in Alabama. They were selling this phrase on a shirt. Much to my surprise, that shirt was sold out by the time I went to pick it up. I was pleasantly shocked.

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    [–] 107 points 2 years ago (11 children)

    The only viable solution when Nazis take control of government is violence. There is no reasoning with them, they are not logical.

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  • [–] 55 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    This is correct, and also, Nazis don't care about good faith argumentation. They're explicitly anti-liberal (as in, liberty, freedom) and will only pretend to have these values to try and point out an apparent contradiction ("You believe in rights to speech and democracy, so why are you censoring us?")

    In this video of former white supremacists talking about how they left the ideology, one brings up that on their Nazi website, it was normal and common to argue for points they knew were garbage, like the Great Replacement theory. It's about power and results, not liberalist idealism.

    Violent methods usually aren't the preferred way of dealing with Nazis (because it's harder to get a mass movement to join in and support it, and because it's riskier, legally, which makes it harder to sustain), but it works. It broke up the BUF in Britain, it's kept the local turds scared to show their faces or reveal their true thoughts (don't worry, they still usually get revealed by researchers anyway). Violence works. They know it and we know it. But when they're the government, their violence is now legal.

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    [–] 78 points 2 years ago* (3 children)

    Nazis deserve exactly as much mercy and tolerance as they give to others.

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    [–] 76 points 2 years ago

    Violence against Nazis isnt the answer, its a question and the answer is always yes.

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  • [–] 70 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    Paradox of tolerance.

    The paradox of tolerance is a philosophical concept suggesting that if a society extends tolerance to those who are intolerant, it risks enabling the eventual dominance of intolerance, thereby undermining the very principle of tolerance.

    In a tolerant society we must be intolerant of intolerance.

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  • [–] 18 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

    Edit - My mistake, I somehow was blind to the first in-.

     

    In a tolerant society we must be intolerant of intolerance.

    No we musn't. The intolerant have broken the social contract and are no longer extended that latitude.

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    [–] 67 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    I'll upvote Tom Morello anytime

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  • [–] 39 points 2 years ago (9 children)

    Sigh... I miss the days when Rage Against The Machine focused on music and wasn't political.

    Tap for spoilerI feel obligated to say this is sarcasm, just because of the way things are. (There are actually some people who said this to Tom on Xitter lmao.)

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  • [–] 13 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    What machine do these people think they are raging against? A dishwasher?

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  • [–] 34 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Organize and protect yourselves and those you care about, Nazis won't care.

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  • [–] 20 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Arm yourselves.

    The Nazis are already armed.

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  • [–] 12 points 2 years ago*

    Yep, becoming familiar with firearms is something I wish was unnecessary, but until the working class is liberated it's necessary. I dream of a future where the working class has won triumphantly, worldwide, and that violence fades into urban legend outside of somber historical remembrance.

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  • [–] 26 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Nazis deserve to be shot and killed

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    I wanna hear everyone's fight music! I've been leaning on RTJ the last few days.

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  • [–] 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (16 children)

    Probably a lot of obvious choices on here, but I like to think of it as honoring the classics of the genre, and hopefully there are a few entries which are new to folks.

    • Crime Mob - Knuck if You Buck (this goes at the start of the playlist, because, in my experience, playing this to a crowd of significant size will result in hands being thrown somewhere, it is a statistical inevitability)
    • Godsmack - I Stand Alone
    • Pantera - Walk Phil Anselmo is a Nazi shit weasel and I was unaware.
    • Limp Bizkit - Rollin
    • Rage Against the Machine - Fistful of Steel
    • Lil Wayne ft Eminem- Drop the World
    • CKY - 96 Quite Bitter Beings
    • DMX - X Gon Give It To Ya
    • Ludacris - Get Back
    • KMFDM - Free Your Hate
    • Aesop Rock - None Shall Pass
    • Powerman 5000 - When Worlds Collide
    • Static-X - Push It
    • DJ Shadow ft Run the Jewels - Nobody Speak
    • Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds - Red Right Hand
    • Slipknot - People=Shit
    • Slayer - Raining Blood
    • Holy Fuck - Tom Tom
    • Danzig - Mother
    • Queens of the Stone Age - You Think I Ain't Worth a Dollar, But I Feel Like A Millionaire (gotta find an edit without the intro tho)
    • Mastodon - Blood and Thunder
    • Mïngle Härder (formerly Möngöl Hörde) - Blistering Blue Barnacles

    Two nautical themed metal/hardcore songs which get me ready to tussle isn't a lot, but it is weird that it happened twice.

    • Rise Against - State of the Union
    • Coheed and Cambria - Key Entity Extraction V: Sentry the Defiant (with honorable mention to In Keeping Secrets of Silent Earth:3 and Welcome Home)
    • Chevelle - The Red
    • Bullet For My Valentine - Waking the Demon
    • Eve 6 - Think Twice
    • Hole - Violet
    • Dead Kennedys - Nazi Punks Fuck Off
    • Smashing Pumpkins - Bullet With Butterfly Winds

    That seems like enough brainstorming for now. Hope someone finds something they vibe with.

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  • [–] 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (10 children)

    Propaghandi is a big one for me since they're from my city, but also Dead Kennedys, NoFX, Stray From the Path, Jeff Rosenstock

    Edit:

    I have more 😈:

    • John K. Samson/The Weakerthans
    • Nick Shoulders
    • Jesse Welles
    • The Narcissist Cookbook
    • Jason Isbell
    • John Prine
    • Woody Guthrie
    • The Coup
    • Larry and his Flask
    • Jordan Smart
    • Phil Ochs
    • Watchhouse
    • Warren Zevon
    • Elvis Costello
    • The Orphans
    • Mischief Brew
    • The Tillers
    • Country Joe McDonald
    • Barbara Dane
    • They Might be Giants
    • David Rovics

    Sorry, music and finding it is a special interest.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago* (9 children)

    Yess, I've been trying to explore punk. Give me punk bands with lyrics I can understand, and who are vocally critical of conservatism and fascism please.

    For myself -

    • A lot of RATM has floated to the top for me in the past few years. They are in heavy rotation now, and weren't really for about fifteen years prior to that. The songs you don't immediately think of when I say RATM have lyrics that are just as true and just as biting. If you like their sound but aren't familiar with most of their work, this is a good time.

    • Brother Ali - particularly songs like Uncle Sam Goddamn

    • Dropkick Murphys, particularly most of the Album "This Machine Still Kills Fascists"

    • Anti-Flag. I know they have proven to have done some shady things with regard to harassing some women at their shows, but I only just discovered them recently (and learned this about them afterwards.) Unfortunately I like their songs and lyrics. "Victory or Death" comes to mind immediately.

    • Public Enemy - By the time I get to arizona, Black steel in the hour of chaos, fight the power (obv), fight the power 2020, really I don't think they do a song that's not good for the current state of affairs. Over and over in recent years I have concluded that the hip hop community saw what was and what was coming long before (decades before) the rest of us. I wonder why. 🤔

    • Last couple Arrested Development albums. Good tracks off the top of my head "And This I know" "The Meek" "Amazing" "Fire" "Moses" Gotta listen to these, most aren't going to leap out with the expected energy if you don't pay attention to the lyrics all the way through. There are others. Their last three albums have a high percentage of gems IMO.

    • Really old one by B. Dolan called "Which side are you on?" (loosely based aoround Guthrie song) which is congruent with a lot of today's issues, though I think it was written primarily in support of this woman. Gonna link it here because I just listened to it again and damn does it slap.

    A lot of what I listed above is unsurprisingly posted by me or others in !music@lemmy.world

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    From old timey union fight songs (ex Workers of the world, Awaken) to protest rock. The Swedish band Nationalteatern have a great banger "Staten och Kapitalet" about that the state and the capital sit in the same boat, but it is not those who row and the whip does not lick their fat necks.

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    [–] 11 points 2 years ago

    hE sHoULd sTAy oUt oF puHLityiCks

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