When forced to make a choice between power or their principles, Reddit moderators are overwhelmingly choosing to abandon the latter.
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Oh, no! Not being removed from a voluntary unpaid job that saves Reddit millions every year!
*Removes NSFW tags, places NSFW content anyway.
Hopefully it lands next diaper or detergent...
God how bad would that be... Big company paying spez and he places their product next to thicc young lady with big titties... The horror!
As I understand it, the sub being flagged NSFW as a whole means Reddit can't sell ads on it, whereas general subs with NSFW content are considered fine (like AskReddit, where "what's the sexiest sex you've ever sexed?" comes up about twice a week). The subs would need to be flooded with NSFW content that is upvoted above anything SFW for several days and a campaign to highlight this to advertisers to effect change in this way, and I'm sure the admins would yell at them before it got that far and the moderators would crumble again.
Oh no. Who will I work for free then?
Doesn't fuck spez know the meaning of the word volunteer? Mods Don't depend on reddit, is the other way around.
Mods are like game devs, the powers that be know they can treat them like absolute shit because there is an endless supply of replacements who are willing to be treated like shit for the opportunity to do the work.
That is untrue. Reddit would do just fine without their mods. Mods dont moderate subreddits out of the goodness of their heart to volunteer their time. They do it because they like having power over their communities. Reddit is threatening to take away that power from them, which is why they all crumbled so fast. It is unbelievably easy to find new people to take power over an internet community.
The fact that reddit keeps making threats to moderators instead of taking immediate action is interesting. I guess they realize they'd be screwed without all that volunteer labor.
Reddit is gambling - so far correctly - that the mods care too much about the subreddits they've spent years building and maintaining to walk away, so they will cave on any protests as soon as the admins get involved.
The only way this will have any real impact is "good" moderators walk away and leave the running of the key ad-friendly subs to newbie inexperienced moderators who will cause serious damage.
Zany theory time - NSFW is not available via API as complete removal of NSFW content is on the roadmap, and they don't want the app developers building a subscription model around something that will disappear in future.
As if they give a crap about app developers.
If the theory were true, it would have nothing to do with caring about app developers, but protecting a revenue stream.
It is unlikely, but why else would they limit NSFW content from third parties? If they outright want to extinguish them why bother implementing any sort of API cost model - as you said, it's not like they care the app developers.
Or maybe a new (monetized) platform for NSFW content? They're just eliminating competition.
LELAND: Well, I’m sorry. There’s just no way that we could keep you on. KRAMER: I don’t even really work here!
What's crazy is that Reddit admins have so much more to lose by removing these moderators than the mods themselves do, but the mods have somehow convinced themselves that they have to stay, no matter how bad it is.
Relevant article: https://doctorow.medium.com/how-to-leave-dying-social-media-platforms-9fc550fe5abf
Of course they are, it’s all about how much revenue they’re losing from the subreddits NSFW tags as advertisers don’t like it. We’ll see if they actually go through with it.
Theoretically, for a large sub like pics or military, if every mod held strong and was removed, would Reddit step in and find moderators or moderate themselves?
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