The original post by @spujb@lemmy.cafe was a woman wearing a shirt that says "Italians do it better". Someone asked what they do, and drag explained the joke as best as drag understood the intention, though drag disagrees that Luigi killed that CEO. It's not a call for violence, it's an explanation of a joke. Other people interpreted the joke the same way.

Less than an hour later, Flying Squid banned drag for that explanation, and for saying Luigi is not guilty. According to Flying Squid, referencing the CEO shooter case and saying Luigi didn't do it is a call for violence. Expressing support for Luigi Mangione is a bannable offense on LemmyShitpost.

EDIT: The Picard Maneuver responded to drag's appeal and reversed the ban. Drag will be deleting this post as it is no longer relevant to the current state of affairs on Lemmy Shitpost.

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[–] 39 points 2 years ago* (21 children)

Joking or alluding to it is seemingly fine. Just don't straight up say "kill billionaires" like Drag, I guess. Because plenty of others, including myself, have been making jokes with the same sentiment and we're not banned nor have had our comments removed.

With the way Drag usually talks in 3rd person, I kinda feel like it's just an excuse to ban the dude because someone finds him annoying. This is also the first time I am seeing FlyingSquid being called out for banning someone, and it actually isn't just someone who said some bigoted shit and got mad at facing consequences.

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  • [–] 19 points 2 years ago (13 children)

    Yeah, the ban reason looks like it was more of a final straw thing than specifically about that one comment.

    I don't mind drag much, as long as I remember not to engage about some things. But they stir shit often enough I can imagine a mod just hitting a limit.

    Fwiw though, eat the fucking rich doesn't work as well when they're running away, so you kinda gotta bring them down first ;)

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  • [–] 16 points 2 years ago

    Kind of off topic, but he wasn't a billionaire. Not saying he was poor, he still has so much money that most of us will never see, but imagine that Elonia has 7,000 times more than him and still hangs out around trump to get even more.

    The wealth inequality is crazy high right now.

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    [–] 29 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    You were banned for saying "Kill billionaires".

    Not for saying "Luigi Mangione isn't guilty tho".

    Even if you didn't mean it as an invitation or incitement to homicide and merely as an answer, completion, or riff to the previous statement, on its own it can be interpreted that way.

    I'm rooting for Luigi too, I don't feel sorry about the death of the UnitedHealthcare CEO, and I do think billionaires shouldn't get comfortable with profiting from our suffering. But the mods reserve the right to remove stuff they feel could get them in trouble, chances are someone did interpret it this way and made a report (wasn't me I swear). There may be certain contexts, communities, instances, where this is allowed but you will have to determine that or ask.

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  • [–] 12 points 2 years ago (7 children)

    I think you're being a little bit facetious; surely you can see that while yes, you technically answered the question, you didn't phrase it in the form of an explanation. I'm not pearl-clutching and accusing you of condoning the murder, but that response was pretty obviously toeing the line at best.

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    [–] 10 points 2 years ago

    You were banned for being a pain in the ass and constantly accusing users of being transphobic, just like the other places you’ve been banned

    Are you sure you’re not dronerights?

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Squid called me a facial analysis expert because i said i didn't think Luigi looked like the suspect photos lol

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    While I'm personally inclined to agree with drag that that was quite clearly answering a question and not an imperative, I also don't think that it should be frowned on to protect the instance one moderates from potentially being taken down.

    Lemmy is still (relatively) small enough that it can fly under the radar, but that's not going to last forever.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago

    Squid participates in mod abuse, but you're clearly arguing in bad faith.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago

    Good that so, I am surprised how many mods just straight up ignore or support glorification of violence, respect to him for enforcing the rules consistently even if it's an unpopular decision

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago

    Power mods gonna power trip ...

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  • [–] -2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    PTB.

    If ending a joke is promoting violence, where are the bans of the people defending Harris, Biden or the Democrat party, for promoting a violent genoocide ?

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  • [–] -3 points 2 years ago (14 children)

    So you were explaining the joke, sure. But then added your opinion that the pertubator didn't do it and wasn't guilty of committing that crime?

    That's borderline a call for violence which is against the rules of that community. Sorry but YDI and you should do better.

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    [–] -4 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Who's big as titties are those though?

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  • [+] -7 points 2 years ago

    That's not even close to the worst shit that mod does. For example, they'll personally attack you then call in a mod to ban you for personal attacks.

    But, they're never sanctioned. It's good that you've created documentation. But, nothing will happen until he picks on the wrong person.

    He's also easy to dox.

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