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[–] 203 points 3 years ago (11 children)

A megagram is 1000 kg, by definition. It's symbol is Mg.

In metric countries, we just use the word "ton" as shorthand/slang for it, since it is an easier term and was well known.

The only reason the US calls it a metric ton, is because they have archaic units (long and short tons).

Metric countries don't call it a metric ton.

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  • [–] 60 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    No one in the US knows WTF a long and short ton are. A ton is 2k lbs. And most Americans probably don't even know the exact weight of a ton outside of "a shit load."

    For the most part, we generally only use pounds, feet, miles. Everything else is a mystery. Even ounces, cups and gallons are some fucking magical mystery. Just follow the recipe.

    I switched everything to metric years ago, and have never been happier. It made a huge difference in most of the things I do, having a system that makes internal sense. The only thing I still routinely use standard for is sewing, because it's damn near impossible to find any patterns or things like cutting mats in metric in the right sizes for quilting.

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  • [–] 47 points 3 years ago (39 children)

    There recently was a discussion on lemmy where several US citizens (one of them allegedly an engineer…) tried to explain to me that metric might be „more precise“ (? 😂) but the imperial system more practical, because „everybody knows what a foot is“. When I asked them to add feet to miles I got shouted at (in CAPS) that noone (ever) does that. 🤷‍♀️

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  • [–] 36 points 3 years ago* (12 children)

    Lol, that sounds very much “as a black man”

    I’ll tell you, most of us in the states would love a total switch to metric. We use it where is matters most, but we also have an aging population raised on lead has fumes that think anything they don’t know is “communism” or “wholeness” or whatever else the propaganda right spews. Those are the assholes that pretty much stop progress on anything.

    I’m big into 3D printing, actually got into the same argument with another 3D printing guy…. And I’m like, literally EVERYTHING we do is in metric. The whole damn hobby is metric.

    I hate humanity

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  • [–] 10 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Lol, that sounds very much “as a black man”

    You mean the „engineer“? Well, what can I say, he was insisting his professor at uni taught him „a true engineer can work with every system“.

    I mean yes, but the difference is one engineer is just happily pushing around decimals, the other one goes pale when you ask what 1/5th of a gallon in cubic inches is…

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  • [–] 8 points 3 years ago

    Hehe, yea, I was poking fun at the “engineer”. There was a congressman a while ago that got caught posting right wing stuff on twitter from an alt account “as a black man” (dude was white of course”

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  • [–] 11 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    lbs = elbows? 2 thousand human elbows?!

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  • [–] 17 points 3 years ago

    Yes. Jesus, why can't Europeans educate themselves on real measurements! We measure in feet and bald eagles for distance. We measure in shotgun shells, elbows and pounds for weight. We measure in ATNT for temperature. That's Ambient Truck Nut Temperature, which is the temperature of a pair of truck nuts after driving for 80 bald eagles at 40 bald eagles per Active Shooter Warning, at sea level on a Wednesday. It's not complicated.

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    [–] 70 points 3 years ago

    There's nothing wrong with doing so. Perfectly up to you, and everyone would know how much it is.

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  • [–] 53 points 3 years ago (18 children)

    I sometimes use millitonne (mt) instead of kilogram to keep people on their toes. I've learned that some people doesn't like to have their weight measured in any kind of tonne.

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    [–] 32 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    I noticed this with vehicles. Odo has 100,000 km on it? Nah, it's 100 megameters. It just sounds cooler

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    [–] 25 points 3 years ago (12 children)

    Units closer related to everyday stuff are those that stick around. Like horse power or km. People don't use Mm but instead 1'000s of km, even into the million km for cars. Even in space they still tend to use km like for the distance to the moon or sun. Only once the distances get absurdly large is there a shift to either another unit (light years) or the use of different notation (like 3.14E12 m).

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    [–] 22 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Earth's circumference is 40 Mm. 1 AU is 14 Gm. I could get used to this.

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  • [–] 22 points 3 years ago* (3 children)

    Megagram is the official SI term for the weight. Metric tonne is non-SI but happens to be equivalent to a megagram and became the more common parlance (where I am, at least) by historical accident.

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    [–] 20 points 3 years ago

    I like metric wrenches, if my 5mm doesnt fit I can try the 6mm. Most nuts and bolds are not metric, so I end up figuring what comes next if my 1/2" doesn't fit. is it like 33/64th? 34/64th? 17/32nd?

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  • [–] 18 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    One magnesium please. yes I'm sure, only one.

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  • [–] 16 points 3 years ago (8 children)

    What is this metric shit? I'm an American! I measure weight in American units like the hundredweight and the truss and the slug!

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    [–] 13 points 3 years ago (3 children)
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    [–] 10 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    I'm an engineer, and I make it a point to teach young engineers that "a ton" can mean any one of three things:

    • Short ton = 2000 lb
    • Long ton = 2240 lb
    • Metric ton = 1000 kg = ~2204 lb

    And which is being used is often not spelled out, but is just known from context, and usually should be clarified. I once nearly got in trouble by thinking a measurement was in short tons when it was actually metric tons.

    So my own act of rebellion is to use "Mg" when I'm writing my personal notes.

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  • [–] 10 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    But then what would a metric fuckton be?

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  • [–] 9 points 3 years ago

    In Italian schools they teach it as Megagram, since ton is an old term which is non compliant with the SI

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  • [–] 9 points 3 years ago (3 children)

    After reading the comments, I've noticed a point that is missing from the other comments. We like to measure things relative to other things. Therefore we should use a unit of measure which you can compare the entire range of expected values for that question simply.

    For example how far away is my nearest town centre? 1km. How far away is the nearest city? 10km. How far is it across the country? 500km, How far is it across the continent? 5,000km. How far is it around the equator? 40,000km.

    By using all km in this case it's easy to get an idea of the relative distances. But you wouldn't measure your height as 0.0018km. Just my own thoughts!

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    [–] 7 points 3 years ago (10 children)

    I've often wondered why the kilogram was not called the gram when the former is commonly cited as the official unit of mass? I guess it doesn't really matter much since it's easy to convert between units. That's sort of the point of metric, but still…

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  • [–] 9 points 3 years ago* (5 children)

    Cuz the gram came before the SI system and the kilogram is a much more useable unit. The original m-g-s are based on physical things, like m being a subdivision of the length from the North Pole to the Equator going through Paris, and s being related to the time of a pendulum with certain length swinging or smth

    A gram is the weight of 1 mL of water, roughly.

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    [–] 7 points 3 years ago

    I prefer Gigamilligram

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  • [–] 7 points 3 years ago (3 children)

    we do call them megagrams?

    It's all either Megagrams / hectare or tons / acre in my work...

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