So as you may know, i am a guy mostly focused on privacy. Basically, insead of google i use SearXNG. (Privacy focused search engine) However, when i went to change the default search engine in safari, there was no option to add a custom search engine.

This really pissed me off. So how come Apple allows changing default browsers in the EU, but not search engines?

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[+] 26 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 child)
  • [–] 11 points 2 years ago

    you could try Safari/Webkit based Orion, which also happens to be more privacy focused as well. https://kagi.com/orion/

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  • [–] 10 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    IDK use Firefox mobile I guess?

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    Kagi offers a safari plugin which intercepts a search request and sends it to Kagi instead. Works great.

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  • [+] 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)
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  • [–] 16 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    Safari is just way better integrated in the System and its not like Firefox on iOS is the real firefox. Its webkit with a Firefox skin.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago

    When Apple figures out a way to maximize its profit by extorting those search engines.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    @prousername@lemmy.ml It is not ideal, but you can use privacy redirect, an extension to change the search engine

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  • I use Arc Browser on iOS you can click search for me and it will peruse the top links to your search query and use an LLM to extract the information you want so you can avoid the cancer that is modern websites plagued with ads and burying the leed.

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    [–] 3 points 2 years ago

    What did Apple tell you when you asked? Did you think anyone here knows the answer?

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago

    Only search engine who pay got into that list.

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  • [+] -40 points 2 years ago (20 children)

    You are privacy focused and use apple? I think I have found your problem.

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  • [–] 25 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    I'd have thought Google is more invasive than Apple? I say this as an Android user...

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Android can be degoogled, e.g. GrapheneOS. If you're focused on privacy then that's the way to go.

    Although Google is worse than Apple when it comes to privacy, Apple is still pretty bad.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago

    So what are the alternatives? Android and even more spying? Degoogled Android and having to log into the website for your bank every time you want to send someone money?

    Apple's the devil, but when your alternatives are "Devil Plus" and "Lose access to half the stuff you even need your phone for", I'll stick with the Devil.

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  • [–] [S] 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (7 children)

    What type of problem though? I don't see anything wrong with using an apple product while maintaining my privacy.

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  • [+] -6 points 2 years ago (6 children)

    Apple isn't any good for privacy. Just as Google, it's a single big company that gets full control over your device. There are many examples of them exploiting it, by hashing your launched apps on Mac to check for malware, for example. Their systems are also known for being a lot more locked down than the rest, meaning getting rid of telemetry is not an easy task. Big companies are not interested in your privacy, they are interested in profit. And the profit they can get by building your profile is a lot more valuable for them than you as a user. That being said, the guy is right, but he is out of line.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    @TwilightKiddy @prousername bro really said hashing is a privacy violation??

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  • [–] -1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    I mean, they where hashing any lauched programs and sending the hashes unencryped to their servers to compare against their database. So, they literally knew every program you launched, when you did it, but also your ISP knew it and anyone smart enough to MITM your connection. Sounds like a privacy violation to me.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    @TwilightKiddy I can see how you can get there, but the MITM would need to know the hashing algo, you can’t *really* just un-hash something, at least not reliably

    But your original statement was that the hashing was the privacy violation, and that’s the part I took issue with, hashing is a generally accepted security measure, it is not inherently a privacy violation

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    Well idk if this counts, but when i started caring abt my privacy i filled my icloud storage with garbage so that it does not back up any pictures. (also i dont have a mac)

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  • [–] -2 points 2 years ago

    It's not really about something specific. There are just a lot of examples of Apple doing weird shit with your data and only stopping when they got caught. Most people conserned with privacy just don't trust Apple in general.

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