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[–] 196 points 3 years ago (9 children)

Interestingly, these used to be called 'jokes' before memes existed.

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  • [–] 54 points 3 years ago (3 children)

    It's like calling every photo of you a fucking selfie. It's only a selfie if you did it yourself of yourself. The end.

    And yeah, I'm with you. Now every funny picture is a meme. No, it's just a funny picture.

    Now get off my lawn!

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  • [–] [S] 8 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    You got my meme response now you get my academic reply.

    A meme is a remix of an existing idea/joke/image. Unless you are creating something new whole cloth it could be considered a meme. Even though the term hadn't been coined, what Mark was doing with 3/4 of those autographs was altering the context of the card image, thus he did create memes.

    Now get off my lawn.

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  • [–] 12 points 3 years ago* (2 children)

    Actually the term was coined all the way back in the 70s, by Richard Dawkins in his book The Selfish Gene.

    It means a cultural gene. It's a piece of culture that is so pervasive it can be said to be a part of the genetic code of the society. Examples are the smiley face, tic tac toe or other simple common games, that S thing we all drew as kids, etc.

    Not all jokes are memes, and not all memes are jokes.

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  • [–] 7 points 3 years ago

    It bugs me when people call any stupid little picture or comic a meme. It also bugs me when people say they are making a meme. One does not simply "make" a meme. It must become a meme on its own. Now if you'll excuse me I've got some clouds to yell at.

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  • [–] 7 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    I was going to ask what people mean when they say "meme" now, because they do not seem to be using the word the way that I use it.

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  • [–] [S] 4 points 3 years ago (9 children)

    A meme is an idea, behavior, or style that spreads by means of imitation from person to person within a culture and often carries symbolic meaning representing a particular phenomenon or theme. A meme acts as a unit for carrying cultural ideas, symbols, or practices, that can be transmitted from one mind to another through writing, speech, gestures, rituals, or other imitable phenomena with a mimicked theme. Supporters of the concept regard memes as cultural analogues to genes in that they self-replicate, mutate, and respond to selective pressures. In popular language, a meme may refer to an Internet meme, typically an image, that is remixed, copied, and circulated in a shared cultural experience online.

    Per Wikipedia, emphasis on what I consider the relevant bits. What way do you use it?

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  • [–] 8 points 3 years ago (4 children)

    By your own highlighted parts, the cards in the OP are not memes. People don't alter pictures of those signed cards and they don't mutate. They don't change via selective pressures as we don't see new versions where people change the image or the text. Additionally, those pictures of the trading cards are not remixed. They're shared unaltered. The OP is missing key traits of being a meme. The OP is a picture of some funny jokes that Mark Hamil wrote on some trading cards he autographed. They're certainly entertaining, but they're not memes.

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    [–] 145 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 child)

    My favourite joke of his is a very lowkey one: changing his twitter display name to Mar 🐫

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  • [–] 105 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Mark Hamill showing how he's such a Joker.

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  • [–] [S] 42 points 3 years ago (14 children)

    MFW a post doesn't get enough upvotes.

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    [–] 38 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Wew. Lots of Lucas and Disney fanbois it looks like based on the vitriol. I'm GenX. We lived through the "Gap of SW" where we made do with mid-good SW novels, toys, games, cameos and the occasional SW-related tv movies. We were so hyped to the heavens for the Prequels that we didn't see the warning signs when Lucas shat on SW by making the Special Editions. I walked out of the cinema in confusion after watching TPM. It's like a Believer being told by God himself that your religion is a sham. Lucas is a sfx visionary and world builder but he is a hack in script writing and needed people to tell him off. The actors like Mark Hamill and Harrison Ford frequently refused to act out the lines Lucas wrote. Carrie Fisher even became a script doctor due to her experience with Lucas' terrible scripts.

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  • [–] 31 points 3 years ago

    I wish Mark Hamill was my cool uncle

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  • [–] 19 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Think the bong is still for sale?

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  • [–] 17 points 3 years ago* (1 child)

    I saw mark Hamill perform in a play once called Six dance lessons in six weeks. Rue Mclanahan from the Golden Girls played the female lead.

    It was actually a really good play and I got to meet him during the opening night party afterwards. I was an idiot kid and asked him to sign the playbill with a MTFBWY or something dumb like that. He was visibly miffed, understandably, but still politely signed it "forcefully yours."

    It wasn't until years later that I realized it was kind of rude of me to ask for that at the opening night party of a play he just worked really hard on. Must be real annoying having fanboys pestering you about a shitty movie you did decades ago. Anyway he seemed nice enough and it was a really good play. I got a pic with him around here somewhere, maybe I'll post if there's any interest.

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  • [–] 15 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    He learned from the best... George Lucas did everything he could with Bill Moyers to open source the whole humanity meme pattern inspiration in Star Wars. He was trying to tie pre-film, pre-cinema, patterns to film. Passing down the meat and potatoes of society to each generation.

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  • [–] 12 points 3 years ago

    I went to Star Wars Celebration VI back in 2012 and it was $225 to get Mark Hammil's autograph. I opted instead to get Peter Mayhew's for $60. RIP Mr. Mayhew.

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  • [–] 12 points 3 years ago

    Mar🐪 is a legend of legends.

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  • [–] 9 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago)

    But he's too famous of an actor to write funny things, everybody knows that after you've been in a couple of big movies, you aren't allowed to do funny bits on the Internet anymore.

    Maybe he's one of those "meme accounts" or something.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 years ago

    The fuckin bong joke is majestic. I assume he was pulling these out of his ass at signings, too. Nice handwriting, Mark.

    I could never be famous enough to sign stuff, people would get it back like what the fuck is this? My sig would be all inconsistent, too. Hamill is a pro, though. Even back then.

    You know? He handled going from nobody to Luke Skywalker pretty damned well all things considered.

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