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[–] 177 points 3 years ago* (27 children)

Trump will continue to play grab ass with the fuck-around gang until he finds the exact line in the sand that guarantees he gets held in pre-trial detention. If he gets thrown in the slammer while awaiting trial he will claim he is a political prisoner, and if they don't stick him there he will do everything in his power to commit soft-treason through his cult. Everything surrounding Trump is, and always has been a lose/lose situation for this country.

Until he is made to suffer serious consequences for his violent petulence and penchant for authoritarianism things will never move forward in any meaningful way. He is a distraction that, when all is said and done, will have stagnated the progress of this country for a decade at minimum.

Edit: Accidentally a word

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  • [–] 27 points 3 years ago (4 children)

    Everything surrounding Trump is, and always has been a lose/lose situation for this country.

    It's like the whole US is scared of a scar so they keep delaying the op to get the tumor out.

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  • [–] 9 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    I think the greater fear is that anything done against him becomes fuel for the Republicans/conservatives to elect an even worse human being.

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  • [–] 21 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    While I generally agree with you assessment, I think it is important to note that not punishing Trump would embolden or exacerbate his brand of bully pulpit tactics even more. This fear of retribution just means we need to be ever vigilant, and take the threat of authoritarian minority rule seriously.

    That is what we are ultimately talking about, and the only way to prevent that is to stay engaged politically, and to hold our leaders to account whenever they trample on the rights of our fellow citizens or our democracy.

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  • [–] 12 points 3 years ago

    Exactly. The only thing you get with appeasement is vindicated bullies. justice must fall. or the US falls. if he goes this far without consequnces... then the next guy will go a little bit further and a little bit further. In fact, that's pretty much the TLDR of Trump's entire political career.

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  • [–] 13 points 3 years ago (6 children)

    Although sitting in a cell is my favored outcome for him for doing this, I would love it if the judge just barred him from using electronic devices. Can you imagine how pissed off he'd be?

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  • [–] 18 points 3 years ago (5 children)

    Will that order include a dude following him around and slapping phones out of his hand? Because he is already not allowed to talk about the case and he just ignored it.

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  • [+] 94 points 3 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)
  • [–] 86 points 3 years ago (6 children)

    He's testing to see how far he can push. But he's going to find out Jack Smith pushes back a hell of a lot harder.

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  • [–] 42 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    The best thing about him is that I don't have a clue what his politics are. He's worked for Democrats and Republicans, and he has never, as far as I'm aware, said a single goddamn word in public about his political opinions. Nothing. And his prosecutorial record is similarly impossible to use as a barometer for his politics. It shows that he's extremely good at his job, and nothing else.

    Gotta respect a guy like that. Partisan to one thing and one thing only: Serving justice.

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    [+] 67 points 3 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)
  • [–] 61 points 3 years ago (3 children)

    It kind of makes sense.

    Hear me out.

    He knows he's screwed. He's got 78 counts against him.

    At this point, the only thing that will make the federal charges go away is to win the presidency. The time to play it safe is over.

    The best bet right now might be to rally the base and get the GOP nomination. You might get clobbered in the general election, but that's a 2024 problem.

    Then you have the constitutional crisis of a sitting president with a state prison sentence, but he doesn't really care about the well-being of the country, so that's moot to a raging narcissist.

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    [–] 48 points 3 years ago (17 children)

    “That’s what they’re doing. ‘I’m sorry, I won’t be able to go to Iowa today. I won’t be able to go to New Hampshire today,’” he said. “Because I’m sitting in a courtroom on bull—-.”

    The crowd cheered and broke into chants of “bull——!”

    They’re caracitures of themselves at this point.

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  • [–] 47 points 3 years ago (16 children)

    reminds me of that Ken Patti twitter post:

    I forced a bot to watch over 1,000 hours of Trump rallies and then asked it to write a Trump rally of its own. Here is the first page.

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  • [–] 45 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    So he's gonna keep intimidating witnesses and the judge and prosecution. Great. If he was poor and trying this shit he'd be locked up yesterday.

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  • [–] 39 points 3 years ago (6 children)

    I know that Jack Smith, and Fanni Willis, are too professional to be bothered by such inflammatory remarks, but it can’t be a smart move to attack the people who are writing indictments. Not all the donations in the world can make up for what he will face in prison.

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  • [–] 44 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    While I really REALLY hope he doesn't weasel himself out of this, our justice system highly favors people with money to pay for crimes to go away.

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    [–] 28 points 3 years ago

    He's just doing what he always does: talk as much trash about how he's not afraid and harassing the opposition, but I guarantee that if the order goes through, he'll get very vague very fast. Bullies are always a bunch of talk until the real muscle comes in.

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  • [–] 28 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    I hope he does. He will violate the order and be thrown in jail until trial. That would be phenomenal.

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  • [–] [B] 26 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    In the early voting state of New Hampshire, Trump assailed Smith as a “thug prosecutor” and a “deranged guy” a week after being indicted on felony charges for his efforts to overturn the results of the 2020 election in the run-up to the insurrection at the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021.

    The former president lobbed the insults at Smith just days after the Department of Justice asked a judge to approve a protective order stopping Trump from publicly disclosing evidence.

    In the four-count indictment filed against Trump last week, the Justice Department accused him of orchestrating a scheme to block the peaceful transfer of power.

    He was told by multiple people in trusted positions that his claims were false, prosecutors said, but he spread them anyway to sow public mistrust about the election.

    Trump, who is also facing charges in Florida and New York, is gearing up for a possible fourth indictment, in a case out of Fulton County, Georgia, over alleged efforts by him and his allies to illegally meddle in the 2020 election in that state.

    Trump, who has portrayed the investigations as politically motivated, said they are forcing him “to spend time and money away from the campaign trail in order to fight bogus made-up accusations and charges.”


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  • [–] 26 points 3 years ago (4 children)

    He knows that he's not going to see consequences no matter what he does.

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    [–] 22 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (3 children)

    “I believe the president has learned his lesson” -wise words from a stupid woman

    Edit: Fixed the typo

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    [–] 17 points 3 years ago

    Let him keep talking until the court sees no other way than to lock him up and take away his phone to prevent further damage.

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    [–] 14 points 3 years ago

    https://archive.is/dAnTm

    ^Don't forget these! These Republicans (16) tried to overthrow elections

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  • [–] 13 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago)

    Government: "Hey, Trump wants to try this case in the media, which will negatively impact the ability of the court to maintain a fair trial. This is one of the reasons that the court should issue a protective order."

    Trump: "THAT'S RIGHT, I'M DOING IT RIGHT NOW!"

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  • [–] 12 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    The two-tiered justice system is a freaking joke. I was taught my entire life that we are all equal under the law (yeah, I know). Anyone else, not rich/white, would be behind bars already awaiting his trial. trump just continuing to damage the country.

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    [–] 10 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Keep talking. I’m sure it’ll get him to jail quicker if he starts to leak info about the discovery and witnesses…

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