If THIS is Star Trek, then it's all Star Trek.

Especially this.

“Starfleet is weird”

— Janeway

That place looks like the Q Continuum when Q wanted to unalive himself.

Oh man, I got banned from ST.W this morning. The mod was on a banning spree, banning people for any reason at all, with dubious reasons cited.

Being a mod on a random low-traffic forum is such a tiny amount of power. I can't believe people can let it go to their head.

It, like every series before or concurrently, approaches the universe differently. They all have changes in style, effects, base premise, and acting. It's Trek all the same. Doesn't mean we have to like it.

DS9 screenshots in isolation look a lot different from TOS. Things change.

You're kind of right. Discovery S1 was trying to be a dark, prestige drama. It felt a lot more like BSG than Trek. I haven't watched it since it premiered but I don't remember hating it, though I didn't love it either.

They fired their show runner pretty early, so there is another tone shift from S2 onward. The tone becomes a lot more like the new-Trek movies, and later much more like Strange New Worlds. Take a look at screenshots from Season 4 compared to Season 1 to see just how much it shifted stylistically.

The real issue isn't aesthetic or tonal, it's that the writing is excruciating.

A bit conflicted, I imagine.

Sure it is. It may be flashier, have a larger budget, and largely miss the spirit of the series at that time... I had a point here somewhere.

Eh, pick and choose what bits you enjoy.

I liked them. They're the first time my wife got interested in Star Trek and an appreciation for sci-fi. It's very hard getting people into this stuff using old studio shows from the 20th century.

And it's always Discovery when these posts are made, isn't it. Because Discovery never tried to be Star Trek in anything but name and when fans backlash, it's always the fans' fault, not the show's fault (Paramount/CBS astroturf the shit out of this online, imo). Picard sucks too for similar reasons, and I just said so on an internet forum. So what?

Maybe I wish these shows hadn't got made because they were a giant waste of resources, but at the end of the day, I'm still enjoying LD and SNW. But no, I can't tell the world what a pile of dogshit Discovery is, oh no, that makes me a shitty fan who deserves to be banned.

Speaking of which, let me tell you about /r/startrek - those assholes can fuck themselves and if startrek.website is infected with that particular mind virus, it can fuck itself too. Being intolerant of opinions about a stupid tv show is far worse than any particular opinion could possibly be.

I like how your comment is getting simultaneously up voted and down voted