▲ 116 ▼ Spotify plans to raise prices this year and introduce new plans - GSMArena.com news (www.gsmarena.com) submitted 2 years ago by sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al to c/technology@beehaw.org 97 comments fedilink hide all child comments As apparently, this move is made to target audiobook listeners and podcast listeners, can I recommend https://audiobookshelf.org And also https://f-droid.org/packages/de.danoeh.antennapod/
[–] darkphotonstudio@beehaw.org 18 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) Spotify is making bank on musicians who get jack squat in return. Don't use Spotify. permalink fedilink source hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] calmluck9349@infosec.pub 8 points 2 years ago (2 children) Should probably suggest an alternative. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Churbleyimyam@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago Bandcamp Fridays. permalink fedilink source parent [–] darkphotonstudio@beehaw.org 5 points 2 years ago (2 children) Why? Streaming has become a scam and everyone seems okay with it. Like everything online. Everything is an expensive subscription to rent entertainment. My suggestion? Buy CDs. Buy directly from the artists. Or pirate it, at least Spotify won't make any money from it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Penguincoder@beehaw.org 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) at least Spotify won’t make any money from it. And the artists still won't. So given in either case, the artist don't make squat; using Spotify is easier. So, use spotify. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] darkphotonstudio@beehaw.org 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) So you care more about yourself and Spotify than the artists who give you hours and hours of entertainment. Cool. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Penguincoder@beehaw.org 4 points 2 years ago When the suggestion is to pirate it, so spotify doesn't get any money I don't see how your follow-up comment matters. In either case of piracy, OR using spotify, the artist still doesn't make money. Problem is that piracy comes with a lot more hoops and headaches. Of course, buying the artist CD or songs directly is much preferable to either. permalink fedilink source parent [–] gerryflap@feddit.nl 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) How is Spotify a scam? I can probably at most buy one CD per month for the same price as Spotify. Yet Spotify gives unlimited access to good quality versions of almost every song out there. Even with raised prices it's still a way better deal for most consumers than buying music directly. Personally I tend to also buy a few albums a year, because I like owning them and I like supporting the artists. But the convenience of having every track at your fingertips is hard to beat permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] darkphotonstudio@beehaw.org 1 point 2 years ago It's a scam for artists. They make a pittance. Meanwhile, Spotify is raking it in. It may be an amazing deal for you, but musicians are making nothing from it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] beefcat@beehaw.org 1 point 2 years ago that is why spotify is a scam. it may be a good deal for you, the consumer, but it has made it even harder for artists to make money off their work. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Churbleyimyam@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Especially if you are a musician. Musicians need to boycott it. 99.9999% of musicians wouldn't even notice if they weren't on it but it would destroy Spotify. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] darkphotonstudio@beehaw.org 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) It's not even worth indie and small artists time to put it on there. Spotify has now officially demonetised all songs with less than 1,000 streams: https://www.nme.com/news/music/spotify-has-now-officially-demonetised-all-songs-with-less-than-1000-streams-3614010 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Churbleyimyam@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) I remember hearing about this. And I bet you the reason they ended up with so many songs with less than 1000 plays is because of their own algorithm. Apart from creating money problems for most musicians, they have been actively narrowing our artistic culture by effectively inbreeding modern music. Its really bad. We need musicians (and all other artists) to express and reflect who we are and what we're about. They empower us. I feel like contemporary music has become narrowed down to nothing but hedonism, vanity and self-loathing; largely thanks to the likes of spotify. BTW if you're interested in something which is good, check out https://radiofreefedi.net/ It's music from artists on the fediverse. I've had some great sessions listening to their comfy channel and discovered some awesome new artists that I wouldn't have otherwise. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] darkphotonstudio@beehaw.org 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I'm familiar. I have some tracks on there. I do metal though, and I have no clue when they actually play it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Churbleyimyam@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Nice, what is your artist name? Maybe I've heard you on it! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] darkphotonstudio@beehaw.org 1 point 2 years ago Harbinger of Storms. I'm also here: https://darkphotonstudio.bandcamp.com/album/all-of-the-stars-are-dead permalink fedilink source parent
[–] calmluck9349@infosec.pub 8 points 2 years ago (2 children) Should probably suggest an alternative. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Churbleyimyam@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago Bandcamp Fridays. permalink fedilink source parent [–] darkphotonstudio@beehaw.org 5 points 2 years ago (2 children) Why? Streaming has become a scam and everyone seems okay with it. Like everything online. Everything is an expensive subscription to rent entertainment. My suggestion? Buy CDs. Buy directly from the artists. Or pirate it, at least Spotify won't make any money from it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Penguincoder@beehaw.org 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) at least Spotify won’t make any money from it. And the artists still won't. So given in either case, the artist don't make squat; using Spotify is easier. So, use spotify. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] darkphotonstudio@beehaw.org 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) So you care more about yourself and Spotify than the artists who give you hours and hours of entertainment. Cool. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Penguincoder@beehaw.org 4 points 2 years ago When the suggestion is to pirate it, so spotify doesn't get any money I don't see how your follow-up comment matters. In either case of piracy, OR using spotify, the artist still doesn't make money. Problem is that piracy comes with a lot more hoops and headaches. Of course, buying the artist CD or songs directly is much preferable to either. permalink fedilink source parent [–] gerryflap@feddit.nl 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) How is Spotify a scam? I can probably at most buy one CD per month for the same price as Spotify. Yet Spotify gives unlimited access to good quality versions of almost every song out there. Even with raised prices it's still a way better deal for most consumers than buying music directly. Personally I tend to also buy a few albums a year, because I like owning them and I like supporting the artists. But the convenience of having every track at your fingertips is hard to beat permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] darkphotonstudio@beehaw.org 1 point 2 years ago It's a scam for artists. They make a pittance. Meanwhile, Spotify is raking it in. It may be an amazing deal for you, but musicians are making nothing from it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] beefcat@beehaw.org 1 point 2 years ago that is why spotify is a scam. it may be a good deal for you, the consumer, but it has made it even harder for artists to make money off their work. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] darkphotonstudio@beehaw.org 5 points 2 years ago (2 children) Why? Streaming has become a scam and everyone seems okay with it. Like everything online. Everything is an expensive subscription to rent entertainment. My suggestion? Buy CDs. Buy directly from the artists. Or pirate it, at least Spotify won't make any money from it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Penguincoder@beehaw.org 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) at least Spotify won’t make any money from it. And the artists still won't. So given in either case, the artist don't make squat; using Spotify is easier. So, use spotify. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] darkphotonstudio@beehaw.org 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) So you care more about yourself and Spotify than the artists who give you hours and hours of entertainment. Cool. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Penguincoder@beehaw.org 4 points 2 years ago When the suggestion is to pirate it, so spotify doesn't get any money I don't see how your follow-up comment matters. In either case of piracy, OR using spotify, the artist still doesn't make money. Problem is that piracy comes with a lot more hoops and headaches. Of course, buying the artist CD or songs directly is much preferable to either. permalink fedilink source parent [–] gerryflap@feddit.nl 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) How is Spotify a scam? I can probably at most buy one CD per month for the same price as Spotify. Yet Spotify gives unlimited access to good quality versions of almost every song out there. Even with raised prices it's still a way better deal for most consumers than buying music directly. Personally I tend to also buy a few albums a year, because I like owning them and I like supporting the artists. But the convenience of having every track at your fingertips is hard to beat permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] darkphotonstudio@beehaw.org 1 point 2 years ago It's a scam for artists. They make a pittance. Meanwhile, Spotify is raking it in. It may be an amazing deal for you, but musicians are making nothing from it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] beefcat@beehaw.org 1 point 2 years ago that is why spotify is a scam. it may be a good deal for you, the consumer, but it has made it even harder for artists to make money off their work. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Penguincoder@beehaw.org 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) at least Spotify won’t make any money from it. And the artists still won't. So given in either case, the artist don't make squat; using Spotify is easier. So, use spotify. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] darkphotonstudio@beehaw.org 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) So you care more about yourself and Spotify than the artists who give you hours and hours of entertainment. Cool. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Penguincoder@beehaw.org 4 points 2 years ago When the suggestion is to pirate it, so spotify doesn't get any money I don't see how your follow-up comment matters. In either case of piracy, OR using spotify, the artist still doesn't make money. Problem is that piracy comes with a lot more hoops and headaches. Of course, buying the artist CD or songs directly is much preferable to either. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] darkphotonstudio@beehaw.org 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) So you care more about yourself and Spotify than the artists who give you hours and hours of entertainment. Cool. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Penguincoder@beehaw.org 4 points 2 years ago When the suggestion is to pirate it, so spotify doesn't get any money I don't see how your follow-up comment matters. In either case of piracy, OR using spotify, the artist still doesn't make money. Problem is that piracy comes with a lot more hoops and headaches. Of course, buying the artist CD or songs directly is much preferable to either. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Penguincoder@beehaw.org 4 points 2 years ago When the suggestion is to pirate it, so spotify doesn't get any money I don't see how your follow-up comment matters. In either case of piracy, OR using spotify, the artist still doesn't make money. Problem is that piracy comes with a lot more hoops and headaches. Of course, buying the artist CD or songs directly is much preferable to either. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] gerryflap@feddit.nl 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) How is Spotify a scam? I can probably at most buy one CD per month for the same price as Spotify. Yet Spotify gives unlimited access to good quality versions of almost every song out there. Even with raised prices it's still a way better deal for most consumers than buying music directly. Personally I tend to also buy a few albums a year, because I like owning them and I like supporting the artists. But the convenience of having every track at your fingertips is hard to beat permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] darkphotonstudio@beehaw.org 1 point 2 years ago It's a scam for artists. They make a pittance. Meanwhile, Spotify is raking it in. It may be an amazing deal for you, but musicians are making nothing from it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] beefcat@beehaw.org 1 point 2 years ago that is why spotify is a scam. it may be a good deal for you, the consumer, but it has made it even harder for artists to make money off their work. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] darkphotonstudio@beehaw.org 1 point 2 years ago It's a scam for artists. They make a pittance. Meanwhile, Spotify is raking it in. It may be an amazing deal for you, but musicians are making nothing from it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] beefcat@beehaw.org 1 point 2 years ago that is why spotify is a scam. it may be a good deal for you, the consumer, but it has made it even harder for artists to make money off their work. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Churbleyimyam@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Especially if you are a musician. Musicians need to boycott it. 99.9999% of musicians wouldn't even notice if they weren't on it but it would destroy Spotify. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] darkphotonstudio@beehaw.org 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) It's not even worth indie and small artists time to put it on there. Spotify has now officially demonetised all songs with less than 1,000 streams: https://www.nme.com/news/music/spotify-has-now-officially-demonetised-all-songs-with-less-than-1000-streams-3614010 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Churbleyimyam@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) I remember hearing about this. And I bet you the reason they ended up with so many songs with less than 1000 plays is because of their own algorithm. Apart from creating money problems for most musicians, they have been actively narrowing our artistic culture by effectively inbreeding modern music. Its really bad. We need musicians (and all other artists) to express and reflect who we are and what we're about. They empower us. I feel like contemporary music has become narrowed down to nothing but hedonism, vanity and self-loathing; largely thanks to the likes of spotify. BTW if you're interested in something which is good, check out https://radiofreefedi.net/ It's music from artists on the fediverse. I've had some great sessions listening to their comfy channel and discovered some awesome new artists that I wouldn't have otherwise. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] darkphotonstudio@beehaw.org 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I'm familiar. I have some tracks on there. I do metal though, and I have no clue when they actually play it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Churbleyimyam@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Nice, what is your artist name? Maybe I've heard you on it! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] darkphotonstudio@beehaw.org 1 point 2 years ago Harbinger of Storms. I'm also here: https://darkphotonstudio.bandcamp.com/album/all-of-the-stars-are-dead permalink fedilink source parent
[–] darkphotonstudio@beehaw.org 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) It's not even worth indie and small artists time to put it on there. Spotify has now officially demonetised all songs with less than 1,000 streams: https://www.nme.com/news/music/spotify-has-now-officially-demonetised-all-songs-with-less-than-1000-streams-3614010 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Churbleyimyam@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) I remember hearing about this. And I bet you the reason they ended up with so many songs with less than 1000 plays is because of their own algorithm. Apart from creating money problems for most musicians, they have been actively narrowing our artistic culture by effectively inbreeding modern music. Its really bad. We need musicians (and all other artists) to express and reflect who we are and what we're about. They empower us. I feel like contemporary music has become narrowed down to nothing but hedonism, vanity and self-loathing; largely thanks to the likes of spotify. BTW if you're interested in something which is good, check out https://radiofreefedi.net/ It's music from artists on the fediverse. I've had some great sessions listening to their comfy channel and discovered some awesome new artists that I wouldn't have otherwise. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] darkphotonstudio@beehaw.org 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I'm familiar. I have some tracks on there. I do metal though, and I have no clue when they actually play it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Churbleyimyam@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Nice, what is your artist name? Maybe I've heard you on it! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] darkphotonstudio@beehaw.org 1 point 2 years ago Harbinger of Storms. I'm also here: https://darkphotonstudio.bandcamp.com/album/all-of-the-stars-are-dead permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Churbleyimyam@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) I remember hearing about this. And I bet you the reason they ended up with so many songs with less than 1000 plays is because of their own algorithm. Apart from creating money problems for most musicians, they have been actively narrowing our artistic culture by effectively inbreeding modern music. Its really bad. We need musicians (and all other artists) to express and reflect who we are and what we're about. They empower us. I feel like contemporary music has become narrowed down to nothing but hedonism, vanity and self-loathing; largely thanks to the likes of spotify. BTW if you're interested in something which is good, check out https://radiofreefedi.net/ It's music from artists on the fediverse. I've had some great sessions listening to their comfy channel and discovered some awesome new artists that I wouldn't have otherwise. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] darkphotonstudio@beehaw.org 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I'm familiar. I have some tracks on there. I do metal though, and I have no clue when they actually play it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Churbleyimyam@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Nice, what is your artist name? Maybe I've heard you on it! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] darkphotonstudio@beehaw.org 1 point 2 years ago Harbinger of Storms. I'm also here: https://darkphotonstudio.bandcamp.com/album/all-of-the-stars-are-dead permalink fedilink source parent
[–] darkphotonstudio@beehaw.org 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I'm familiar. I have some tracks on there. I do metal though, and I have no clue when they actually play it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Churbleyimyam@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Nice, what is your artist name? Maybe I've heard you on it! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] darkphotonstudio@beehaw.org 1 point 2 years ago Harbinger of Storms. I'm also here: https://darkphotonstudio.bandcamp.com/album/all-of-the-stars-are-dead permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Churbleyimyam@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Nice, what is your artist name? Maybe I've heard you on it! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] darkphotonstudio@beehaw.org 1 point 2 years ago Harbinger of Storms. I'm also here: https://darkphotonstudio.bandcamp.com/album/all-of-the-stars-are-dead permalink fedilink source parent
[–] darkphotonstudio@beehaw.org 1 point 2 years ago Harbinger of Storms. I'm also here: https://darkphotonstudio.bandcamp.com/album/all-of-the-stars-are-dead permalink fedilink source parent