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[–] nadwwwimni@lemmy.blahaj.zone 185 points 3 years ago (1 child) permalink fedilink source hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Texas_Hangover@lemmy.world -92 points 3 years ago (2 children) How long have they been recording? I assume there's no records from all that long ago. Being as how humans, and measurement especially are a fairly new thing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] SCB@lemmy.world 77 points 3 years ago (1 child) Per NASA, accurate global readings go back to 1880 and historical localized temperatures go back to the 1650s permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Texas_Hangover@lemmy.world -144 points 3 years ago (5 children) Not much in the grand scheme of things. There was an ice age not that long ago. Nature does some funny shit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] onionbaggage@lemmy.world 67 points 3 years ago (2 children) My brother in Christ. We're supposed to be in an Ice Age now. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Coreidan@lemmy.world 18 points 3 years ago (1 child) The trailing end of an ice age anyway. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 9 points 3 years ago Probably the last one for the next 200,000 years or so... permalink fedilink source parent [–] grandkaiser@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago We are in an ice age right now. permalink fedilink source parent [–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 57 points 3 years ago (2 children) Is this comment satire? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Sarcastik@lemmy.world 35 points 3 years ago (2 children) Not even Lemmy is safe from climate change deniers. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] Deftdrummer@lemmy.world -4 points 3 years ago [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent [+] nitrolife@rekabu.ru -19 points 3 years ago* (3 children) But he doesn't deny climate change, he denies that man has such a big influence on him. Or maybe he denies the theory that nature itself is not able to regulate temperature. After all, uncomfortable for a human does not mean uncomfortable for nature as a whole. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] phatskat@sh.itjust.works 12 points 3 years ago Right - we humans are generally most concerned with what’s “comfortable”. That’s a fun spin on “being able to live”. The earth will be fine with or without us, we’re just doing a good job of shooting for “without”. permalink fedilink source parent [–] FunderPants@lemmy.ca 12 points 3 years ago Well I look forward to his contribution questioning the established science in the Journal Nature Reviews Earth & Environment. He should direct his profound expertise and diligent work appropriately. Publish : https://mts-natrevearthenviron.nature.com/cgi-bin/main.plex permalink fedilink source parent [+] quack@lemmy.zip 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nitrolife@rekabu.ru 1 point 1 year ago I live in a region with an annual temperature difference of 70 degrees Celsius in not goodanouth year . if they tell me that the summer will be hotter by 5 degrees Celsius and the winter will be 10 degrees colder I will not even feel most likely. still if you spit to the ground only ice will reach the ground. And whether or not you deny heating has nothing to do with it. Of course maybe mankind is warming the earth enough, or maybe the Little Ice Age is ending. If you care about that, ok. I don't. permalink fedilink source parent [+] olibleu@sh.itjust.works 8 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] SCB@lemmy.world 38 points 3 years ago* You might wanna do some research into why ice ages and interglacial periods happened. Spoiler alert: it's the composition of the air. https://www.carbonbrief.org/explainer-how-the-rise-and-fall-of-co2-levels-influenced-the-ice-ages/#:~:text=These%20ice%20ages%20are%20triggered,age%20than%20it%20is%20today. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Pumpkinbot@lemmy.world 29 points 3 years ago Nature doesn't do shit this funny. permalink fedilink source parent [–] hup@lemmy.world 14 points 3 years ago* So we basically understand "weather" for roughly 8ppm of earth's life. That said, we can infer much amount about climate (not weather, climate) from much older archeological and even paleontological evidence. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Slatlun@lemmy.ml 68 points 3 years ago (2 children) Here is a graphic to help visualize the unprecedented rate of temp change. Data source for temperature is cited and likely errors are explained. https://xkcd.com/1732/ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] cantstopthesignal@sh.itjust.works 30 points 3 years ago* (1 child) It's actually worse than that. We are not in the predicted path, we are in one of the worst estimated predicted paths. Understandable as that comic was made in 2012. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Slatlun@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 years ago Yeah, you're right. It would be even more obvious now if it were redone. I specifically like that one because it invites people to scroll through the time axis slowly and on a linear scale. It makes the recent changes more real than the same graph fitted to a screen and seen all at once. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Deftdrummer@lemmy.world -39 points 3 years ago (2 children) Can't stand those comics. Thanks but no thanks. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Kolrami@lemmy.world 9 points 3 years ago They cite their sources. I got paywalled by the Marcott paper, but that seems like it has data you're looking for. I think most of the referenced links are as follows: Shakun https://www.nature.com/articles/nature10915 Marcott https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.1228026 Annan and Hargreaves https://cp.copernicus.org/articles/9/367/2013/cp-9-367-2013.html Hadcrut4 https://psl.noaa.gov/data/gridded/data.hadcru4.html permalink fedilink source parent [–] v_krishna@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 years ago Dang climate change denial is one thing but speaking ill of xkcd on the internet are you a fucking madman? permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Texas_Hangover@lemmy.world -92 points 3 years ago (2 children) How long have they been recording? I assume there's no records from all that long ago. Being as how humans, and measurement especially are a fairly new thing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] SCB@lemmy.world 77 points 3 years ago (1 child) Per NASA, accurate global readings go back to 1880 and historical localized temperatures go back to the 1650s permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Texas_Hangover@lemmy.world -144 points 3 years ago (5 children) Not much in the grand scheme of things. There was an ice age not that long ago. Nature does some funny shit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] onionbaggage@lemmy.world 67 points 3 years ago (2 children) My brother in Christ. We're supposed to be in an Ice Age now. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Coreidan@lemmy.world 18 points 3 years ago (1 child) The trailing end of an ice age anyway. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 9 points 3 years ago Probably the last one for the next 200,000 years or so... permalink fedilink source parent [–] grandkaiser@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago We are in an ice age right now. permalink fedilink source parent [–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 57 points 3 years ago (2 children) Is this comment satire? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Sarcastik@lemmy.world 35 points 3 years ago (2 children) Not even Lemmy is safe from climate change deniers. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] Deftdrummer@lemmy.world -4 points 3 years ago [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent [+] nitrolife@rekabu.ru -19 points 3 years ago* (3 children) But he doesn't deny climate change, he denies that man has such a big influence on him. Or maybe he denies the theory that nature itself is not able to regulate temperature. After all, uncomfortable for a human does not mean uncomfortable for nature as a whole. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] phatskat@sh.itjust.works 12 points 3 years ago Right - we humans are generally most concerned with what’s “comfortable”. That’s a fun spin on “being able to live”. The earth will be fine with or without us, we’re just doing a good job of shooting for “without”. permalink fedilink source parent [–] FunderPants@lemmy.ca 12 points 3 years ago Well I look forward to his contribution questioning the established science in the Journal Nature Reviews Earth & Environment. He should direct his profound expertise and diligent work appropriately. Publish : https://mts-natrevearthenviron.nature.com/cgi-bin/main.plex permalink fedilink source parent [+] quack@lemmy.zip 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nitrolife@rekabu.ru 1 point 1 year ago I live in a region with an annual temperature difference of 70 degrees Celsius in not goodanouth year . if they tell me that the summer will be hotter by 5 degrees Celsius and the winter will be 10 degrees colder I will not even feel most likely. still if you spit to the ground only ice will reach the ground. And whether or not you deny heating has nothing to do with it. Of course maybe mankind is warming the earth enough, or maybe the Little Ice Age is ending. If you care about that, ok. I don't. permalink fedilink source parent [+] olibleu@sh.itjust.works 8 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] SCB@lemmy.world 38 points 3 years ago* You might wanna do some research into why ice ages and interglacial periods happened. Spoiler alert: it's the composition of the air. https://www.carbonbrief.org/explainer-how-the-rise-and-fall-of-co2-levels-influenced-the-ice-ages/#:~:text=These%20ice%20ages%20are%20triggered,age%20than%20it%20is%20today. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Pumpkinbot@lemmy.world 29 points 3 years ago Nature doesn't do shit this funny. permalink fedilink source parent [–] hup@lemmy.world 14 points 3 years ago* So we basically understand "weather" for roughly 8ppm of earth's life. That said, we can infer much amount about climate (not weather, climate) from much older archeological and even paleontological evidence. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Slatlun@lemmy.ml 68 points 3 years ago (2 children) Here is a graphic to help visualize the unprecedented rate of temp change. Data source for temperature is cited and likely errors are explained. https://xkcd.com/1732/ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] cantstopthesignal@sh.itjust.works 30 points 3 years ago* (1 child) It's actually worse than that. We are not in the predicted path, we are in one of the worst estimated predicted paths. Understandable as that comic was made in 2012. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Slatlun@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 years ago Yeah, you're right. It would be even more obvious now if it were redone. I specifically like that one because it invites people to scroll through the time axis slowly and on a linear scale. It makes the recent changes more real than the same graph fitted to a screen and seen all at once. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Deftdrummer@lemmy.world -39 points 3 years ago (2 children) Can't stand those comics. Thanks but no thanks. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Kolrami@lemmy.world 9 points 3 years ago They cite their sources. I got paywalled by the Marcott paper, but that seems like it has data you're looking for. I think most of the referenced links are as follows: Shakun https://www.nature.com/articles/nature10915 Marcott https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.1228026 Annan and Hargreaves https://cp.copernicus.org/articles/9/367/2013/cp-9-367-2013.html Hadcrut4 https://psl.noaa.gov/data/gridded/data.hadcru4.html permalink fedilink source parent [–] v_krishna@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 years ago Dang climate change denial is one thing but speaking ill of xkcd on the internet are you a fucking madman? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SCB@lemmy.world 77 points 3 years ago (1 child) Per NASA, accurate global readings go back to 1880 and historical localized temperatures go back to the 1650s permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Texas_Hangover@lemmy.world -144 points 3 years ago (5 children) Not much in the grand scheme of things. There was an ice age not that long ago. Nature does some funny shit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] onionbaggage@lemmy.world 67 points 3 years ago (2 children) My brother in Christ. We're supposed to be in an Ice Age now. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Coreidan@lemmy.world 18 points 3 years ago (1 child) The trailing end of an ice age anyway. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 9 points 3 years ago Probably the last one for the next 200,000 years or so... permalink fedilink source parent [–] grandkaiser@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago We are in an ice age right now. permalink fedilink source parent [–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 57 points 3 years ago (2 children) Is this comment satire? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Sarcastik@lemmy.world 35 points 3 years ago (2 children) Not even Lemmy is safe from climate change deniers. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] Deftdrummer@lemmy.world -4 points 3 years ago [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent [+] nitrolife@rekabu.ru -19 points 3 years ago* (3 children) But he doesn't deny climate change, he denies that man has such a big influence on him. Or maybe he denies the theory that nature itself is not able to regulate temperature. After all, uncomfortable for a human does not mean uncomfortable for nature as a whole. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] phatskat@sh.itjust.works 12 points 3 years ago Right - we humans are generally most concerned with what’s “comfortable”. That’s a fun spin on “being able to live”. The earth will be fine with or without us, we’re just doing a good job of shooting for “without”. permalink fedilink source parent [–] FunderPants@lemmy.ca 12 points 3 years ago Well I look forward to his contribution questioning the established science in the Journal Nature Reviews Earth & Environment. He should direct his profound expertise and diligent work appropriately. Publish : https://mts-natrevearthenviron.nature.com/cgi-bin/main.plex permalink fedilink source parent [+] quack@lemmy.zip 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nitrolife@rekabu.ru 1 point 1 year ago I live in a region with an annual temperature difference of 70 degrees Celsius in not goodanouth year . if they tell me that the summer will be hotter by 5 degrees Celsius and the winter will be 10 degrees colder I will not even feel most likely. still if you spit to the ground only ice will reach the ground. And whether or not you deny heating has nothing to do with it. Of course maybe mankind is warming the earth enough, or maybe the Little Ice Age is ending. If you care about that, ok. I don't. permalink fedilink source parent [+] olibleu@sh.itjust.works 8 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] SCB@lemmy.world 38 points 3 years ago* You might wanna do some research into why ice ages and interglacial periods happened. Spoiler alert: it's the composition of the air. https://www.carbonbrief.org/explainer-how-the-rise-and-fall-of-co2-levels-influenced-the-ice-ages/#:~:text=These%20ice%20ages%20are%20triggered,age%20than%20it%20is%20today. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Pumpkinbot@lemmy.world 29 points 3 years ago Nature doesn't do shit this funny. permalink fedilink source parent [–] hup@lemmy.world 14 points 3 years ago* So we basically understand "weather" for roughly 8ppm of earth's life. That said, we can infer much amount about climate (not weather, climate) from much older archeological and even paleontological evidence. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Texas_Hangover@lemmy.world -144 points 3 years ago (5 children) Not much in the grand scheme of things. There was an ice age not that long ago. Nature does some funny shit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] onionbaggage@lemmy.world 67 points 3 years ago (2 children) My brother in Christ. We're supposed to be in an Ice Age now. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Coreidan@lemmy.world 18 points 3 years ago (1 child) The trailing end of an ice age anyway. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 9 points 3 years ago Probably the last one for the next 200,000 years or so... permalink fedilink source parent [–] grandkaiser@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago We are in an ice age right now. permalink fedilink source parent [–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 57 points 3 years ago (2 children) Is this comment satire? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Sarcastik@lemmy.world 35 points 3 years ago (2 children) Not even Lemmy is safe from climate change deniers. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] Deftdrummer@lemmy.world -4 points 3 years ago [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent [+] nitrolife@rekabu.ru -19 points 3 years ago* (3 children) But he doesn't deny climate change, he denies that man has such a big influence on him. Or maybe he denies the theory that nature itself is not able to regulate temperature. After all, uncomfortable for a human does not mean uncomfortable for nature as a whole. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] phatskat@sh.itjust.works 12 points 3 years ago Right - we humans are generally most concerned with what’s “comfortable”. That’s a fun spin on “being able to live”. The earth will be fine with or without us, we’re just doing a good job of shooting for “without”. permalink fedilink source parent [–] FunderPants@lemmy.ca 12 points 3 years ago Well I look forward to his contribution questioning the established science in the Journal Nature Reviews Earth & Environment. He should direct his profound expertise and diligent work appropriately. Publish : https://mts-natrevearthenviron.nature.com/cgi-bin/main.plex permalink fedilink source parent [+] quack@lemmy.zip 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nitrolife@rekabu.ru 1 point 1 year ago I live in a region with an annual temperature difference of 70 degrees Celsius in not goodanouth year . if they tell me that the summer will be hotter by 5 degrees Celsius and the winter will be 10 degrees colder I will not even feel most likely. still if you spit to the ground only ice will reach the ground. And whether or not you deny heating has nothing to do with it. Of course maybe mankind is warming the earth enough, or maybe the Little Ice Age is ending. If you care about that, ok. I don't. permalink fedilink source parent [+] olibleu@sh.itjust.works 8 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] SCB@lemmy.world 38 points 3 years ago* You might wanna do some research into why ice ages and interglacial periods happened. Spoiler alert: it's the composition of the air. https://www.carbonbrief.org/explainer-how-the-rise-and-fall-of-co2-levels-influenced-the-ice-ages/#:~:text=These%20ice%20ages%20are%20triggered,age%20than%20it%20is%20today. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Pumpkinbot@lemmy.world 29 points 3 years ago Nature doesn't do shit this funny. permalink fedilink source parent [–] hup@lemmy.world 14 points 3 years ago* So we basically understand "weather" for roughly 8ppm of earth's life. That said, we can infer much amount about climate (not weather, climate) from much older archeological and even paleontological evidence. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] onionbaggage@lemmy.world 67 points 3 years ago (2 children) My brother in Christ. We're supposed to be in an Ice Age now. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Coreidan@lemmy.world 18 points 3 years ago (1 child) The trailing end of an ice age anyway. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 9 points 3 years ago Probably the last one for the next 200,000 years or so... permalink fedilink source parent [–] grandkaiser@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago We are in an ice age right now. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Coreidan@lemmy.world 18 points 3 years ago (1 child) The trailing end of an ice age anyway. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 9 points 3 years ago Probably the last one for the next 200,000 years or so... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 9 points 3 years ago Probably the last one for the next 200,000 years or so... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] grandkaiser@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago We are in an ice age right now. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 57 points 3 years ago (2 children) Is this comment satire? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Sarcastik@lemmy.world 35 points 3 years ago (2 children) Not even Lemmy is safe from climate change deniers. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] Deftdrummer@lemmy.world -4 points 3 years ago [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent [+] nitrolife@rekabu.ru -19 points 3 years ago* (3 children) But he doesn't deny climate change, he denies that man has such a big influence on him. Or maybe he denies the theory that nature itself is not able to regulate temperature. After all, uncomfortable for a human does not mean uncomfortable for nature as a whole. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] phatskat@sh.itjust.works 12 points 3 years ago Right - we humans are generally most concerned with what’s “comfortable”. That’s a fun spin on “being able to live”. The earth will be fine with or without us, we’re just doing a good job of shooting for “without”. permalink fedilink source parent [–] FunderPants@lemmy.ca 12 points 3 years ago Well I look forward to his contribution questioning the established science in the Journal Nature Reviews Earth & Environment. He should direct his profound expertise and diligent work appropriately. Publish : https://mts-natrevearthenviron.nature.com/cgi-bin/main.plex permalink fedilink source parent [+] quack@lemmy.zip 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nitrolife@rekabu.ru 1 point 1 year ago I live in a region with an annual temperature difference of 70 degrees Celsius in not goodanouth year . if they tell me that the summer will be hotter by 5 degrees Celsius and the winter will be 10 degrees colder I will not even feel most likely. still if you spit to the ground only ice will reach the ground. And whether or not you deny heating has nothing to do with it. Of course maybe mankind is warming the earth enough, or maybe the Little Ice Age is ending. If you care about that, ok. I don't. permalink fedilink source parent [+] olibleu@sh.itjust.works 8 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Sarcastik@lemmy.world 35 points 3 years ago (2 children) Not even Lemmy is safe from climate change deniers. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] Deftdrummer@lemmy.world -4 points 3 years ago [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent [+] nitrolife@rekabu.ru -19 points 3 years ago* (3 children) But he doesn't deny climate change, he denies that man has such a big influence on him. Or maybe he denies the theory that nature itself is not able to regulate temperature. After all, uncomfortable for a human does not mean uncomfortable for nature as a whole. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] phatskat@sh.itjust.works 12 points 3 years ago Right - we humans are generally most concerned with what’s “comfortable”. That’s a fun spin on “being able to live”. The earth will be fine with or without us, we’re just doing a good job of shooting for “without”. permalink fedilink source parent [–] FunderPants@lemmy.ca 12 points 3 years ago Well I look forward to his contribution questioning the established science in the Journal Nature Reviews Earth & Environment. He should direct his profound expertise and diligent work appropriately. Publish : https://mts-natrevearthenviron.nature.com/cgi-bin/main.plex permalink fedilink source parent [+] quack@lemmy.zip 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nitrolife@rekabu.ru 1 point 1 year ago I live in a region with an annual temperature difference of 70 degrees Celsius in not goodanouth year . if they tell me that the summer will be hotter by 5 degrees Celsius and the winter will be 10 degrees colder I will not even feel most likely. still if you spit to the ground only ice will reach the ground. And whether or not you deny heating has nothing to do with it. Of course maybe mankind is warming the earth enough, or maybe the Little Ice Age is ending. If you care about that, ok. I don't. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] nitrolife@rekabu.ru -19 points 3 years ago* (3 children) But he doesn't deny climate change, he denies that man has such a big influence on him. Or maybe he denies the theory that nature itself is not able to regulate temperature. After all, uncomfortable for a human does not mean uncomfortable for nature as a whole. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] phatskat@sh.itjust.works 12 points 3 years ago Right - we humans are generally most concerned with what’s “comfortable”. That’s a fun spin on “being able to live”. The earth will be fine with or without us, we’re just doing a good job of shooting for “without”. permalink fedilink source parent [–] FunderPants@lemmy.ca 12 points 3 years ago Well I look forward to his contribution questioning the established science in the Journal Nature Reviews Earth & Environment. He should direct his profound expertise and diligent work appropriately. Publish : https://mts-natrevearthenviron.nature.com/cgi-bin/main.plex permalink fedilink source parent [+] quack@lemmy.zip 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nitrolife@rekabu.ru 1 point 1 year ago I live in a region with an annual temperature difference of 70 degrees Celsius in not goodanouth year . if they tell me that the summer will be hotter by 5 degrees Celsius and the winter will be 10 degrees colder I will not even feel most likely. still if you spit to the ground only ice will reach the ground. And whether or not you deny heating has nothing to do with it. Of course maybe mankind is warming the earth enough, or maybe the Little Ice Age is ending. If you care about that, ok. I don't. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] phatskat@sh.itjust.works 12 points 3 years ago Right - we humans are generally most concerned with what’s “comfortable”. That’s a fun spin on “being able to live”. The earth will be fine with or without us, we’re just doing a good job of shooting for “without”. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FunderPants@lemmy.ca 12 points 3 years ago Well I look forward to his contribution questioning the established science in the Journal Nature Reviews Earth & Environment. He should direct his profound expertise and diligent work appropriately. Publish : https://mts-natrevearthenviron.nature.com/cgi-bin/main.plex permalink fedilink source parent
[+] quack@lemmy.zip 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nitrolife@rekabu.ru 1 point 1 year ago I live in a region with an annual temperature difference of 70 degrees Celsius in not goodanouth year . if they tell me that the summer will be hotter by 5 degrees Celsius and the winter will be 10 degrees colder I will not even feel most likely. still if you spit to the ground only ice will reach the ground. And whether or not you deny heating has nothing to do with it. Of course maybe mankind is warming the earth enough, or maybe the Little Ice Age is ending. If you care about that, ok. I don't. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] nitrolife@rekabu.ru 1 point 1 year ago I live in a region with an annual temperature difference of 70 degrees Celsius in not goodanouth year . if they tell me that the summer will be hotter by 5 degrees Celsius and the winter will be 10 degrees colder I will not even feel most likely. still if you spit to the ground only ice will reach the ground. And whether or not you deny heating has nothing to do with it. Of course maybe mankind is warming the earth enough, or maybe the Little Ice Age is ending. If you care about that, ok. I don't. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] olibleu@sh.itjust.works 8 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SCB@lemmy.world 38 points 3 years ago* You might wanna do some research into why ice ages and interglacial periods happened. Spoiler alert: it's the composition of the air. https://www.carbonbrief.org/explainer-how-the-rise-and-fall-of-co2-levels-influenced-the-ice-ages/#:~:text=These%20ice%20ages%20are%20triggered,age%20than%20it%20is%20today. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Pumpkinbot@lemmy.world 29 points 3 years ago Nature doesn't do shit this funny. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] hup@lemmy.world 14 points 3 years ago* So we basically understand "weather" for roughly 8ppm of earth's life. That said, we can infer much amount about climate (not weather, climate) from much older archeological and even paleontological evidence. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Slatlun@lemmy.ml 68 points 3 years ago (2 children) Here is a graphic to help visualize the unprecedented rate of temp change. Data source for temperature is cited and likely errors are explained. https://xkcd.com/1732/ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] cantstopthesignal@sh.itjust.works 30 points 3 years ago* (1 child) It's actually worse than that. We are not in the predicted path, we are in one of the worst estimated predicted paths. Understandable as that comic was made in 2012. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Slatlun@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 years ago Yeah, you're right. It would be even more obvious now if it were redone. I specifically like that one because it invites people to scroll through the time axis slowly and on a linear scale. It makes the recent changes more real than the same graph fitted to a screen and seen all at once. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Deftdrummer@lemmy.world -39 points 3 years ago (2 children) Can't stand those comics. Thanks but no thanks. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Kolrami@lemmy.world 9 points 3 years ago They cite their sources. I got paywalled by the Marcott paper, but that seems like it has data you're looking for. I think most of the referenced links are as follows: Shakun https://www.nature.com/articles/nature10915 Marcott https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.1228026 Annan and Hargreaves https://cp.copernicus.org/articles/9/367/2013/cp-9-367-2013.html Hadcrut4 https://psl.noaa.gov/data/gridded/data.hadcru4.html permalink fedilink source parent [–] v_krishna@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 years ago Dang climate change denial is one thing but speaking ill of xkcd on the internet are you a fucking madman? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] cantstopthesignal@sh.itjust.works 30 points 3 years ago* (1 child) It's actually worse than that. We are not in the predicted path, we are in one of the worst estimated predicted paths. Understandable as that comic was made in 2012. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Slatlun@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 years ago Yeah, you're right. It would be even more obvious now if it were redone. I specifically like that one because it invites people to scroll through the time axis slowly and on a linear scale. It makes the recent changes more real than the same graph fitted to a screen and seen all at once. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Slatlun@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 years ago Yeah, you're right. It would be even more obvious now if it were redone. I specifically like that one because it invites people to scroll through the time axis slowly and on a linear scale. It makes the recent changes more real than the same graph fitted to a screen and seen all at once. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Deftdrummer@lemmy.world -39 points 3 years ago (2 children) Can't stand those comics. Thanks but no thanks. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Kolrami@lemmy.world 9 points 3 years ago They cite their sources. I got paywalled by the Marcott paper, but that seems like it has data you're looking for. I think most of the referenced links are as follows: Shakun https://www.nature.com/articles/nature10915 Marcott https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.1228026 Annan and Hargreaves https://cp.copernicus.org/articles/9/367/2013/cp-9-367-2013.html Hadcrut4 https://psl.noaa.gov/data/gridded/data.hadcru4.html permalink fedilink source parent [–] v_krishna@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 years ago Dang climate change denial is one thing but speaking ill of xkcd on the internet are you a fucking madman? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Kolrami@lemmy.world 9 points 3 years ago They cite their sources. I got paywalled by the Marcott paper, but that seems like it has data you're looking for. I think most of the referenced links are as follows: Shakun https://www.nature.com/articles/nature10915 Marcott https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.1228026 Annan and Hargreaves https://cp.copernicus.org/articles/9/367/2013/cp-9-367-2013.html Hadcrut4 https://psl.noaa.gov/data/gridded/data.hadcru4.html permalink fedilink source parent
[–] v_krishna@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 years ago Dang climate change denial is one thing but speaking ill of xkcd on the internet are you a fucking madman? permalink fedilink source parent
