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    [–] [email protected] 54 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    You'd normally use a software raid implementation these days, and Linux has a number of those. But yeah, dual booting can expose some quirks and filesystems and disk setup in general is one of the most prominent.

    [–] [email protected] 25 points 8 months ago (1 children)

    This. How an advanced use case is accomplished is not a point against a system's usability.

    [–] [email protected] 18 points 8 months ago (6 children)

    The point I was trying to make is that if you ever want to do something that is not covered with an out of the box install, it's typically far harder to do in Linux than in Windows (although my ~15 years as a windows sysadmin probably bias my opinion)

    Windows is turning into a telemetry nightmare because about 10 years ago Microsoft figured out that they could sell ad space and monetize user data, so I'm trying to get off the platform before my LTSC install hits EOL. But I have to admit it's a hard path.

    [–] [email protected] 30 points 8 months ago (1 children)

    Now do a raid like it's typical for Linux and get it to work on Windows.

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

    Oof, hoops you have to jump through to get two disks in a mirror on windows still haunt my dreams sometimes

    [–] [email protected] 20 points 8 months ago

    (although my ~15 years as a windows sysadmin probably bias my opinion)

    So basically: it's not any harder in linux, but you have more than a decade of muscle memory in windows, so it's harder for you.

    That's like saying "Japanese is a less efficient language than English, all of the words are different, and when I want to say a word, I have to learn it first, but in English I just know the words! English is so much better! (My 30 years speaking english probably bias my opinion)"

    Things are certainly different, but its hard to compare which is "harder" for the advanced use cases.

    There's no shame in having long term experience with one platform and having that shape your expectation about how a solution should look.

    [–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago

    But in your example raid controller driver was covered in an out of the box install in windows. If it wasn't you'll still need to do pretty much the same. Also there was a couple of weird steps in your linux list like switching DE to run a couple of CLI commands and disabling AHCI for some reason.

    [–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

    Congrats on taking the plunge. I suspect there are others like you.

    I'm actually kind of envious. The joy and frustration and joy again of exploring something new was something I relished in my early Linux years. Back then you had to use a text editor to configure your video card before even getting started, so it was kind of insane haha. But totally worth it later, as all of those skills translated.

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

    For advanced, power user stuff, I find Linux to be much friendlier and faster. Just being able to do everything in a Terminal instead of having to mess around with a mix of inconsistent GUI menus in the two different control panels, gpedit, regedit (which is an entire headache by itself), a mix of cmd and Powershell (and whatever Windows Terminal is) is just so much less of a headache.

    Also I find things easier to script in Linux compared to Windows.

    Not to mention the mess that is Windows Update, which doesn't even upgrade third party software, and takes a long time to actually do the updates. Package management is a godsend. Windows has chocolatey and winget, but those are poor substitutes.

    And I say all of this as someone who is technically proficient in both.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

    This is kind of the same situation I'm in, but I'm not quite as tech savvy and I'm more resistant to learning linux even though I'll still probably want to migrate over at some point.

    What I don't really understand is, or, what I understand, but I suppose I find mildly amusing, or confusing, is how many criticisms I've seen of windows that kind of just don't apply to LTSC as much, if at all? It's kind of to the point where I wonder why anyone would really use any other version.

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

    20 years ago it was PCMCIA wifi drivers.

    Now it seems like it’s always some kind of disk boot filesystem issue.