β² 496 βΌ Linux hits 4% on the desktop π§π (gs.statcounter.com) submitted 2 years ago by markus99@lemmy.world to c/linux_gaming@lemmy.world 114 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[β] theshatterstone54@feddit.uk 68 points 2 years ago (6 children) And it was at 2.92% in Oct 23, so that's approx 38% increase in 4 months! If we keep this level of growth for a year, we're looking at 7.67% marketshare in a year from now! permalink fedilink source hideshow 12 child comments replies: [β] lorkano@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago Well windows is getting worse and worse while Linux is better and better permalink fedilink source parent [β] ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago (1 child) That's fantastic and I hope it happens. I really want to go back to Linux for gaming but because of specific applications I cannot. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] PolarisFx@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'm in the same boat, but all the Win11 drama finally forced me to transition over. Now all my work specific applications run in a Windows 10 VM. I leave it running in the backround. I used one of the debloat PowerShell scripts, killed most of the background bullshit. All my windows apps are on it, it's the best of both worlds. It doesn't affect the performance of my machine at all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago* (1 child) I tried to game on Linux. It works great in 99% of cases. I loved cyberpunk just as much as on windows. I'm just part of that 1% who need face tracking and some other software. I do run opensuse on my laptop however. Such uses it is perfect for. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) What do you mean by face tracking? Never heard of that. What applications use it? Genuinely curious. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Mostly simulators. Tracks your face by various means, webcam, IR, etc. When your head moves your camera moves. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Interesting! So a flight sim which changes your view or what application would do this? Maybe thats something we can get working in linux? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) I think I heard of them being used in Arma/Milsims so you can turn your head slightly left or right, so your character looks to their left and right on monitor. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Thats pretty interesting! Sounds like a niche enough thing that would need specific attention to get working. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] zelifcam@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [β] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) What if its exponential growth? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 25 points 2 years ago (3 children) What if its exponential growth? Then we should expect that in ~35 years, 200% of users will be using desktop linux. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [β] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 2 years ago (3 children) The math chec.....wait, no. That math doesn't check out at all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [β] Hupf@feddit.de 12 points 2 years ago It is an older math, Sir. I was going to let them pass. permalink fedilink source parent [β] agent_flounder@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Naw, it just means everyone will have two Linux computers! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago I mean, I currently have 3 linux computers.. sooooo... permalink fedilink source parent [β] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) Ok, fine, I'll do the actual curve fitting instead of just estimating. Eyeballing it, were saying 1% in 2013, 2% in 2021, 3% in 2023? Gives us a fit of.. 0.873 * exp(0.118 * x) So.. Correct the equation and solve for x x_target = np.log(200 / a) / b Calculate the actual year year_target = 2013 + x_target print(year_target) In ~2058 everyone will be using two linux desktops at once. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) If you don't think of the increase in speed of new users as continuing to increase exponentially. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Isn't that the point of the exponent in the exponential function? permalink fedilink source parent [β] Tlaloc_Temporal@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Linux on the main and second computersβ½ Wow! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Fedizen@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Running a linux vm on linux permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago yo dawg.. permalink fedilink source parent [β] AlecStewart1st@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago 2060 - The True and Definitive Year of the Linux Desktop (maybe, probably not but hopefully) permalink fedilink source parent [β] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 2 years ago (2 children) Did this factor out the steam deck Linux, though? It being included if going to falsely skew the numbers. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (2 children) Does it, though? Those are portable linux desktops, that are in active semi-daily use just like anything else. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 2 years ago I have one. I love it. It's 95% just a game system. No one buys one because they want to use a Linux os. permalink fedilink source parent [β] guacupado@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Yeah but it's disengenuous to make a handheld to laptops and desktops comparison. When people think linux and usershare, they're worried about work stations. God I'm hoping no one replies with "Well the Steam Deck could be plugged into a monitor!" Don't be pedantic. You know what I mean. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* Its still a full desktop computer, regardless of whether you can hold it in your hand or not. and because your monitor comment reminded me, I dont remember where I saw it so I cant pull a link to it, but there was a guy who recently won a gamejam or some other similar programming competition, with a steamdeck plugged into a monitor. I could understand, and even agree, with your position if it was some specialty single purpose hardware running a heavily stripped down and modified linux to make something like those chinese emulator handhelds... But its not, Its literally a full use OS on desktop hardware, the only difference is that it fits in your hand. So like it or not, Thats a daily driver linux desktop, People use and interact with it daily, doing everything from web browsing to production work on it, So it definitely counts as a linux machine and should be reflected in the linux statistics. Only one being pedantic is you, and about the shape of the computer of all things. permalink fedilink source parent [β] theshatterstone54@feddit.uk 2 points 2 years ago IIRC, it calculates it based on web usage and user agent, so it would count the Steam Decks used to browse the web (aka those used as desktops), but it shouldn't count the others. So I'd say it's quite accurate. permalink fedilink source parent [β] Alpha71@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) There will be dozens of you! Dozens!!! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] theshatterstone54@feddit.uk 2 points 2 years ago* I mean, there's over 2 Billion desktops, according to data in 2019. But because of the whole lockdown stuff, it probably increased pretty significantly in the following years, so let's just say, 2.2 Billion desktops worldwide right now. Doing some back-of-the-napkin math, 7.67 is about 7.5%, which is 3/4 of 10% and 10% is 1/10 of the whole, so 10% of 2.2 billion is 220 Million, and 3/4 of that is (2/4 or 1/2 plus 1/4 which equals 110m + 55m which is...) 165 million users. So yeah. There will be dozens. Tens of millions of dozens, to be precise. Edit: Also, yes. That sort-of proves that there's about half of that (actually abit more than half but it's an estimate), so about 82 Million desktop Linux users right now (This is assuming all of these 2.2 Billion devices were used to access the internet in the last month) permalink fedilink source parent [β] kratoz29@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago I was gonna make an unfunded joke comment saying that staying at 3% felt never ending, but your very well funded comment actually brought a smile to my face. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] lorkano@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago Well windows is getting worse and worse while Linux is better and better permalink fedilink source parent
[β] ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago (1 child) That's fantastic and I hope it happens. I really want to go back to Linux for gaming but because of specific applications I cannot. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] PolarisFx@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'm in the same boat, but all the Win11 drama finally forced me to transition over. Now all my work specific applications run in a Windows 10 VM. I leave it running in the backround. I used one of the debloat PowerShell scripts, killed most of the background bullshit. All my windows apps are on it, it's the best of both worlds. It doesn't affect the performance of my machine at all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago* (1 child) I tried to game on Linux. It works great in 99% of cases. I loved cyberpunk just as much as on windows. I'm just part of that 1% who need face tracking and some other software. I do run opensuse on my laptop however. Such uses it is perfect for. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) What do you mean by face tracking? Never heard of that. What applications use it? Genuinely curious. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Mostly simulators. Tracks your face by various means, webcam, IR, etc. When your head moves your camera moves. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Interesting! So a flight sim which changes your view or what application would do this? Maybe thats something we can get working in linux? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) I think I heard of them being used in Arma/Milsims so you can turn your head slightly left or right, so your character looks to their left and right on monitor. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Thats pretty interesting! Sounds like a niche enough thing that would need specific attention to get working. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] zelifcam@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[β] PolarisFx@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'm in the same boat, but all the Win11 drama finally forced me to transition over. Now all my work specific applications run in a Windows 10 VM. I leave it running in the backround. I used one of the debloat PowerShell scripts, killed most of the background bullshit. All my windows apps are on it, it's the best of both worlds. It doesn't affect the performance of my machine at all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago* (1 child) I tried to game on Linux. It works great in 99% of cases. I loved cyberpunk just as much as on windows. I'm just part of that 1% who need face tracking and some other software. I do run opensuse on my laptop however. Such uses it is perfect for. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) What do you mean by face tracking? Never heard of that. What applications use it? Genuinely curious. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Mostly simulators. Tracks your face by various means, webcam, IR, etc. When your head moves your camera moves. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Interesting! So a flight sim which changes your view or what application would do this? Maybe thats something we can get working in linux? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) I think I heard of them being used in Arma/Milsims so you can turn your head slightly left or right, so your character looks to their left and right on monitor. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Thats pretty interesting! Sounds like a niche enough thing that would need specific attention to get working. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] zelifcam@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[β] ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago* (1 child) I tried to game on Linux. It works great in 99% of cases. I loved cyberpunk just as much as on windows. I'm just part of that 1% who need face tracking and some other software. I do run opensuse on my laptop however. Such uses it is perfect for. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) What do you mean by face tracking? Never heard of that. What applications use it? Genuinely curious. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Mostly simulators. Tracks your face by various means, webcam, IR, etc. When your head moves your camera moves. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Interesting! So a flight sim which changes your view or what application would do this? Maybe thats something we can get working in linux? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) I think I heard of them being used in Arma/Milsims so you can turn your head slightly left or right, so your character looks to their left and right on monitor. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Thats pretty interesting! Sounds like a niche enough thing that would need specific attention to get working. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] zelifcam@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[β] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) What do you mean by face tracking? Never heard of that. What applications use it? Genuinely curious. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Mostly simulators. Tracks your face by various means, webcam, IR, etc. When your head moves your camera moves. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Interesting! So a flight sim which changes your view or what application would do this? Maybe thats something we can get working in linux? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) I think I heard of them being used in Arma/Milsims so you can turn your head slightly left or right, so your character looks to their left and right on monitor. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Thats pretty interesting! Sounds like a niche enough thing that would need specific attention to get working. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] zelifcam@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[β] ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Mostly simulators. Tracks your face by various means, webcam, IR, etc. When your head moves your camera moves. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Interesting! So a flight sim which changes your view or what application would do this? Maybe thats something we can get working in linux? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) I think I heard of them being used in Arma/Milsims so you can turn your head slightly left or right, so your character looks to their left and right on monitor. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Thats pretty interesting! Sounds like a niche enough thing that would need specific attention to get working. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] zelifcam@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[β] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Interesting! So a flight sim which changes your view or what application would do this? Maybe thats something we can get working in linux? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) I think I heard of them being used in Arma/Milsims so you can turn your head slightly left or right, so your character looks to their left and right on monitor. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Thats pretty interesting! Sounds like a niche enough thing that would need specific attention to get working. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] zelifcam@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[β] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) I think I heard of them being used in Arma/Milsims so you can turn your head slightly left or right, so your character looks to their left and right on monitor. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Thats pretty interesting! Sounds like a niche enough thing that would need specific attention to get working. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] zelifcam@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[β] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Thats pretty interesting! Sounds like a niche enough thing that would need specific attention to get working. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] zelifcam@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
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[β] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) What if its exponential growth? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 25 points 2 years ago (3 children) What if its exponential growth? Then we should expect that in ~35 years, 200% of users will be using desktop linux. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [β] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 2 years ago (3 children) The math chec.....wait, no. That math doesn't check out at all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [β] Hupf@feddit.de 12 points 2 years ago It is an older math, Sir. I was going to let them pass. permalink fedilink source parent [β] agent_flounder@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Naw, it just means everyone will have two Linux computers! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago I mean, I currently have 3 linux computers.. sooooo... permalink fedilink source parent [β] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) Ok, fine, I'll do the actual curve fitting instead of just estimating. Eyeballing it, were saying 1% in 2013, 2% in 2021, 3% in 2023? Gives us a fit of.. 0.873 * exp(0.118 * x) So.. Correct the equation and solve for x x_target = np.log(200 / a) / b Calculate the actual year year_target = 2013 + x_target print(year_target) In ~2058 everyone will be using two linux desktops at once. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) If you don't think of the increase in speed of new users as continuing to increase exponentially. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Isn't that the point of the exponent in the exponential function? permalink fedilink source parent [β] Tlaloc_Temporal@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Linux on the main and second computersβ½ Wow! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Fedizen@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Running a linux vm on linux permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago yo dawg.. permalink fedilink source parent [β] AlecStewart1st@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago 2060 - The True and Definitive Year of the Linux Desktop (maybe, probably not but hopefully) permalink fedilink source parent
[β] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 25 points 2 years ago (3 children) What if its exponential growth? Then we should expect that in ~35 years, 200% of users will be using desktop linux. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [β] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 2 years ago (3 children) The math chec.....wait, no. That math doesn't check out at all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [β] Hupf@feddit.de 12 points 2 years ago It is an older math, Sir. I was going to let them pass. permalink fedilink source parent [β] agent_flounder@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Naw, it just means everyone will have two Linux computers! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago I mean, I currently have 3 linux computers.. sooooo... permalink fedilink source parent [β] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) Ok, fine, I'll do the actual curve fitting instead of just estimating. Eyeballing it, were saying 1% in 2013, 2% in 2021, 3% in 2023? Gives us a fit of.. 0.873 * exp(0.118 * x) So.. Correct the equation and solve for x x_target = np.log(200 / a) / b Calculate the actual year year_target = 2013 + x_target print(year_target) In ~2058 everyone will be using two linux desktops at once. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) If you don't think of the increase in speed of new users as continuing to increase exponentially. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Isn't that the point of the exponent in the exponential function? permalink fedilink source parent [β] Tlaloc_Temporal@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Linux on the main and second computersβ½ Wow! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Fedizen@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Running a linux vm on linux permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago yo dawg.. permalink fedilink source parent [β] AlecStewart1st@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago 2060 - The True and Definitive Year of the Linux Desktop (maybe, probably not but hopefully) permalink fedilink source parent
[β] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 2 years ago (3 children) The math chec.....wait, no. That math doesn't check out at all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [β] Hupf@feddit.de 12 points 2 years ago It is an older math, Sir. I was going to let them pass. permalink fedilink source parent [β] agent_flounder@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Naw, it just means everyone will have two Linux computers! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago I mean, I currently have 3 linux computers.. sooooo... permalink fedilink source parent [β] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) Ok, fine, I'll do the actual curve fitting instead of just estimating. Eyeballing it, were saying 1% in 2013, 2% in 2021, 3% in 2023? Gives us a fit of.. 0.873 * exp(0.118 * x) So.. Correct the equation and solve for x x_target = np.log(200 / a) / b Calculate the actual year year_target = 2013 + x_target print(year_target) In ~2058 everyone will be using two linux desktops at once. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) If you don't think of the increase in speed of new users as continuing to increase exponentially. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Isn't that the point of the exponent in the exponential function? permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Hupf@feddit.de 12 points 2 years ago It is an older math, Sir. I was going to let them pass. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] agent_flounder@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Naw, it just means everyone will have two Linux computers! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago I mean, I currently have 3 linux computers.. sooooo... permalink fedilink source parent
[β] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago I mean, I currently have 3 linux computers.. sooooo... permalink fedilink source parent
[β] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) Ok, fine, I'll do the actual curve fitting instead of just estimating. Eyeballing it, were saying 1% in 2013, 2% in 2021, 3% in 2023? Gives us a fit of.. 0.873 * exp(0.118 * x) So.. Correct the equation and solve for x x_target = np.log(200 / a) / b Calculate the actual year year_target = 2013 + x_target print(year_target) In ~2058 everyone will be using two linux desktops at once. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) If you don't think of the increase in speed of new users as continuing to increase exponentially. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Isn't that the point of the exponent in the exponential function? permalink fedilink source parent
[β] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) If you don't think of the increase in speed of new users as continuing to increase exponentially. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Isn't that the point of the exponent in the exponential function? permalink fedilink source parent
[β] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Isn't that the point of the exponent in the exponential function? permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Tlaloc_Temporal@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Linux on the main and second computersβ½ Wow! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Fedizen@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Running a linux vm on linux permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago yo dawg.. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Fedizen@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Running a linux vm on linux permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago yo dawg.. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] AlecStewart1st@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago 2060 - The True and Definitive Year of the Linux Desktop (maybe, probably not but hopefully) permalink fedilink source parent
[β] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 2 years ago (2 children) Did this factor out the steam deck Linux, though? It being included if going to falsely skew the numbers. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (2 children) Does it, though? Those are portable linux desktops, that are in active semi-daily use just like anything else. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 2 years ago I have one. I love it. It's 95% just a game system. No one buys one because they want to use a Linux os. permalink fedilink source parent [β] guacupado@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Yeah but it's disengenuous to make a handheld to laptops and desktops comparison. When people think linux and usershare, they're worried about work stations. God I'm hoping no one replies with "Well the Steam Deck could be plugged into a monitor!" Don't be pedantic. You know what I mean. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* Its still a full desktop computer, regardless of whether you can hold it in your hand or not. and because your monitor comment reminded me, I dont remember where I saw it so I cant pull a link to it, but there was a guy who recently won a gamejam or some other similar programming competition, with a steamdeck plugged into a monitor. I could understand, and even agree, with your position if it was some specialty single purpose hardware running a heavily stripped down and modified linux to make something like those chinese emulator handhelds... But its not, Its literally a full use OS on desktop hardware, the only difference is that it fits in your hand. So like it or not, Thats a daily driver linux desktop, People use and interact with it daily, doing everything from web browsing to production work on it, So it definitely counts as a linux machine and should be reflected in the linux statistics. Only one being pedantic is you, and about the shape of the computer of all things. permalink fedilink source parent [β] theshatterstone54@feddit.uk 2 points 2 years ago IIRC, it calculates it based on web usage and user agent, so it would count the Steam Decks used to browse the web (aka those used as desktops), but it shouldn't count the others. So I'd say it's quite accurate. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (2 children) Does it, though? Those are portable linux desktops, that are in active semi-daily use just like anything else. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 2 years ago I have one. I love it. It's 95% just a game system. No one buys one because they want to use a Linux os. permalink fedilink source parent [β] guacupado@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Yeah but it's disengenuous to make a handheld to laptops and desktops comparison. When people think linux and usershare, they're worried about work stations. God I'm hoping no one replies with "Well the Steam Deck could be plugged into a monitor!" Don't be pedantic. You know what I mean. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* Its still a full desktop computer, regardless of whether you can hold it in your hand or not. and because your monitor comment reminded me, I dont remember where I saw it so I cant pull a link to it, but there was a guy who recently won a gamejam or some other similar programming competition, with a steamdeck plugged into a monitor. I could understand, and even agree, with your position if it was some specialty single purpose hardware running a heavily stripped down and modified linux to make something like those chinese emulator handhelds... But its not, Its literally a full use OS on desktop hardware, the only difference is that it fits in your hand. So like it or not, Thats a daily driver linux desktop, People use and interact with it daily, doing everything from web browsing to production work on it, So it definitely counts as a linux machine and should be reflected in the linux statistics. Only one being pedantic is you, and about the shape of the computer of all things. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 2 years ago I have one. I love it. It's 95% just a game system. No one buys one because they want to use a Linux os. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] guacupado@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Yeah but it's disengenuous to make a handheld to laptops and desktops comparison. When people think linux and usershare, they're worried about work stations. God I'm hoping no one replies with "Well the Steam Deck could be plugged into a monitor!" Don't be pedantic. You know what I mean. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* Its still a full desktop computer, regardless of whether you can hold it in your hand or not. and because your monitor comment reminded me, I dont remember where I saw it so I cant pull a link to it, but there was a guy who recently won a gamejam or some other similar programming competition, with a steamdeck plugged into a monitor. I could understand, and even agree, with your position if it was some specialty single purpose hardware running a heavily stripped down and modified linux to make something like those chinese emulator handhelds... But its not, Its literally a full use OS on desktop hardware, the only difference is that it fits in your hand. So like it or not, Thats a daily driver linux desktop, People use and interact with it daily, doing everything from web browsing to production work on it, So it definitely counts as a linux machine and should be reflected in the linux statistics. Only one being pedantic is you, and about the shape of the computer of all things. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* Its still a full desktop computer, regardless of whether you can hold it in your hand or not. and because your monitor comment reminded me, I dont remember where I saw it so I cant pull a link to it, but there was a guy who recently won a gamejam or some other similar programming competition, with a steamdeck plugged into a monitor. I could understand, and even agree, with your position if it was some specialty single purpose hardware running a heavily stripped down and modified linux to make something like those chinese emulator handhelds... But its not, Its literally a full use OS on desktop hardware, the only difference is that it fits in your hand. So like it or not, Thats a daily driver linux desktop, People use and interact with it daily, doing everything from web browsing to production work on it, So it definitely counts as a linux machine and should be reflected in the linux statistics. Only one being pedantic is you, and about the shape of the computer of all things. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] theshatterstone54@feddit.uk 2 points 2 years ago IIRC, it calculates it based on web usage and user agent, so it would count the Steam Decks used to browse the web (aka those used as desktops), but it shouldn't count the others. So I'd say it's quite accurate. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Alpha71@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) There will be dozens of you! Dozens!!! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] theshatterstone54@feddit.uk 2 points 2 years ago* I mean, there's over 2 Billion desktops, according to data in 2019. But because of the whole lockdown stuff, it probably increased pretty significantly in the following years, so let's just say, 2.2 Billion desktops worldwide right now. Doing some back-of-the-napkin math, 7.67 is about 7.5%, which is 3/4 of 10% and 10% is 1/10 of the whole, so 10% of 2.2 billion is 220 Million, and 3/4 of that is (2/4 or 1/2 plus 1/4 which equals 110m + 55m which is...) 165 million users. So yeah. There will be dozens. Tens of millions of dozens, to be precise. Edit: Also, yes. That sort-of proves that there's about half of that (actually abit more than half but it's an estimate), so about 82 Million desktop Linux users right now (This is assuming all of these 2.2 Billion devices were used to access the internet in the last month) permalink fedilink source parent
[β] theshatterstone54@feddit.uk 2 points 2 years ago* I mean, there's over 2 Billion desktops, according to data in 2019. But because of the whole lockdown stuff, it probably increased pretty significantly in the following years, so let's just say, 2.2 Billion desktops worldwide right now. Doing some back-of-the-napkin math, 7.67 is about 7.5%, which is 3/4 of 10% and 10% is 1/10 of the whole, so 10% of 2.2 billion is 220 Million, and 3/4 of that is (2/4 or 1/2 plus 1/4 which equals 110m + 55m which is...) 165 million users. So yeah. There will be dozens. Tens of millions of dozens, to be precise. Edit: Also, yes. That sort-of proves that there's about half of that (actually abit more than half but it's an estimate), so about 82 Million desktop Linux users right now (This is assuming all of these 2.2 Billion devices were used to access the internet in the last month) permalink fedilink source parent
[β] kratoz29@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago I was gonna make an unfunded joke comment saying that staying at 3% felt never ending, but your very well funded comment actually brought a smile to my face. permalink fedilink source parent