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[+] MicroWave@lemmy.world [S] 107 points 3 years ago* (4 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 92 points 3 years ago (3 children) I think it's 38 degrees celsius for Americans too. But I'm not quite sure, could also be 2 ounces, their system is kind of weird. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] june@lemmy.world 8 points 3 years ago It’s just over half the temperature of a cooked chicken for us normal Americans. permalink fedilink source parent [–] joel_feila@lemmy.world 6 points 3 years ago the weirdest part is size 8 men shoe and size 8 women shoe are not the same size permalink fedilink source parent [+] irkli@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] DangerousDetlef@lemmy.world 18 points 3 years ago (3 children) Really had to do a double take. Like, what the fuck, the ocean is boiling, it can't be that be that bad, right? Then it clicked that you're using that weird Fahrenheit system. Yes, sorry, it's weird. Celsius is easy - water freezes at 0 and boils at 100 and there we go.. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] WrongWay@kbin.social 17 points 3 years ago (2 children) F is easy.. 0 is cold. 100 is HOT.. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] sudo@lemmy.fmhy.ml 6 points 3 years ago* (6 children) As an American this is how I interpret Celsius 100 is boiling 50 is you're gonna die from heat exhaustion eventually 40 is hot 30 is a little warm 20 is a little cool 10 is cold 0 is freezing permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [+] AmosBurton_ThatGuy@lemmy.ca 7 points 3 years ago [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent [–] Rhaedas@kbin.social 7 points 3 years ago (1 child) 30 is hot. 20 is nice. 10 is cool. 0 is ice. 40 and 50 can just not, please. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sudo@lemmy.fmhy.ml 1 point 3 years ago Yeah I'm down by 30° latitude. I'd be inclined to agree with you back when I lived north of 40° permalink fedilink source parent [–] theterrasque@infosec.pub 6 points 3 years ago As a Norwegian: 100 is boiling 40 is we all gonna die 30 is hot 20 is a little warm 10 is a little cool 0 is cold -5 is maybe time for a jacket -10 shit, it's freezingly cold outside! -15 I'll stay indoors if I can permalink fedilink source parent [–] CodeInvasion@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 years ago* I regularly convert between the two just by remembering the conversions for 10, 20, 30, and 40. It's actually pretty easy. 0C is 32F (of course) 10C is 50F 20C is 68F (a cool room temp) 30C is 86F (reciprocal of 20) 40C is 104F If you ever forget what one of them is, then just add 18F for every 10C from the last one you remember. permalink fedilink source parent [–] DaedalistKraken@ttrpg.network 2 points 3 years ago This is actually great, I've never found a good way to remember Celsius temperatures. I might go closer to Terrasque's scale though, 30 is definitely hot where I am. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (2 children) Metric: 10 mm = 1cm, 100 cm = 1m, 1000 mm = 1m, 1000m = 1 km. 1 cm3 water = 1 gram 1 Watt heats 1 gram of water 1 C° 1 dm3 water = liter = 1 kg 1 m3 = 1000 kg = 1 tonne Imperial: 1 mile = ?? yards = ?? feet = ?? inches 1 ton = ?? stone = ??punds = ?? oz = ?? grain 1 Galon = ?? pints = ?? fluid ounce 1 inch3 = ?? grain = ?? power to heat ?? fahrenheit There is no system to any of these, they are unscientific and impractical. How does Imperial still have any relevance as a measurement system? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) That's exactly how I've memorised imperial as well. We must have used the same manual. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) Yes, you could say Imperial is easier, because you'd never calculate anything in your head, you ask Google. But how did that even work before we had Internet? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago* (2 children) I suppose they had little booklets. A bit like the logarithmic tables that people kept for complicated calculations. Maybe they were issued on the first day of school or something. People would keep them all their life and look at them surreptitiously whenever they had to convert units. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago* 1 barrel is 734 ounces. Whoo what a handy table. LOL ;) permalink fedilink source parent [–] LegionEris@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago I lived someplace with an old sticker inside a cabinet door with a bunch of basic, useful conversions. It was neat. permalink fedilink source parent [–] joel_feila@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago 60 miles = 318 Kilofeet permalink fedilink source parent [–] Norgur@kbin.social 5 points 3 years ago (2 children) Thinking about it... Isn't that exactly what the Celsius scale does just with reliable definitions about what "cold" and "HOT" mean? Shower water with 38°C is hot, a bowl of rice at 38°C/100F is decidedly not "HOT". So the perceived convenience of the Fahrenheit scale is not applicable to everything, is it? How is it convenient then? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] CherenkovBlue@iusearchlinux.fyi 9 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 child) O F is the freezing temperature of a saturated brine solution, while 100 F was the body temperature of a human. Yes, body temperature has been revised a bit, but the two points were chosen as stable points that anyone could access that would generally be unchanged by pressure changes, etc. Human homeostasis is quite good at keeping a temperature in a narrow range. Also, boiling is massively affected by air pressure. At 5000' elevation, boiling is approximately 202 F and continues to get lower as altitude increases. Lots of people live at higher altitudes. (Hi! I am one of them !) Edit: I was a little off on the temperature selected for body temp, but still pretty close: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fahrenheit permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] inspired@kbin.social 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) This is really interesting and I think there is a lot of support for the body temperature point. I was curious about whether the method of deriving 0F is insensitive to pressure changes and I can't find any evidence of that. But I don't know enough about chemistry or physics myself. Do you know, or have any details on where you learned this? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CherenkovBlue@iusearchlinux.fyi 2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) So I was a little off on the temperature chosen for the body, but the Wikipedia page has some good details: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fahrenheit Re: freezing temperature of brine and pressure sensitivity, of course it is sensitive but we are talking about MPa-GPa of pressure, way beyond small pressure changes due to changes in altitude. You can get started by looking at physical chemistry of solutions if you are interested! A good place to start is "freezing point depression" and "boiling point elevation" of solutions. Also, single component phase diagrams: here it is for water. permalink fedilink source parent [–] yata@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 years ago* It is convenient because they are used to it. That is all there is to it, and peace be to that. It only becomes silly when they begin to claim that F is better for "human temperature", because again it all comes down to what you are used to and celsius is just as convenient if you are used to that. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Jaded@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 years ago* It's not boiling but that is hot tube temperature for reference. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Nepenthe@kbin.social 0 points 3 years ago* (2 children) With how mountainous Europe is, no it doesn't. What bothers me (aside from the ongoing, increasingly vivid global extinction event) is the sense that, were the situation flipped, you guys wouldn't miss a beat telling people to look it up instead of assuming every country works like theirs does. Good news is, we'll both have something else to complain about in a year or two, if we're...still able to do that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Norgur@kbin.social 1 point 3 years ago Oh, I think you might be projecting there. Have you ever been to Germany or France or any other European country? If the situation was flipped and we Europeans were the only ones using a system no one else does, we wouldn't tell you to look it up, we would never stop complaining about our governments for not changing shit. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Norgur@kbin.social 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) Oh, I think you might be projecting there. Have you ever been to Germany or France or any other European country? If the situation was flipped and we Europeans were the only ones using a system no one else does, we wouldn't tell you to look it up, we would never stop complaining about our governments for not changing shit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nepenthe@kbin.social 1 point 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) Well, I'm..american, so I'm generally too broke to leave my house. I will openly admit I'm increasingly jealous of the French tendency to fuck shit up at the slightest inconvenience. They seem to know a lot more about getting things done. I think one would also have to account for geography in that, no? If a country were landlocked and surrounded by a ton of others that all used the same separate system that they themselves do not, then there would be very significant reason and pressure to change. As much as it's derided for it, America IS very much a universe unto itself, and the only dealings it has with nations that do things differently are in areas of work that have switched over to more standard measurements. All science and engineering are primarily or totally done in metric after we crashed the Mars Orbiter headlong into the dirt at mach speed. Everything else tends to use the more mathmatically sensible kelvin. Mexico uses metric and celsius, but I've literally never had a reason to go to mexico and probably never will. Canada uses both, but same deal. I make a concerted effort to include both systems whenever I have to type for an audience of mixed/ambiguous nationality, but in my day-to-day, I will never meet another person who can easily switch between them and I have no use to do that either. It is a useless skill for me to have. Despite this, I have the sense that I see more europeans complaining about farenheit than I ever see Americans complain about celsius existing, and for such a damn stupid populace, I'm left to assume we either comment less or google it more. Regarding projecting, I could be tongue-in-cheek and ask if you've ever met a European before. Our food. Our language. Our buildings, cities, cars, media, sports, slang, holidays, garbage disposals, windows, classrooms, whether or not we take our shoes off in the house. I struggle to think of a single subject you guys will not routinely make an inordinate amount of fuss over, as if it killed your children, and I'm convinced at this point that it's for love of spite and there's literally nothing we could do to make Europe happy if we wanted to. It makes sense that any chance to acknowledge the alternate measuring system would be prime ribs. Brits especially will snark about american english that routinely turns out to be a defunct british word. Germans will complain about the drywall, but their own houses have the same drywall. Houses in Switzerland are made of wood, but nobody bitches at the Swiss. Parting note, the downvote feels in keeping with that kind of pettiness. permalink fedilink source parent [–] dismalnow@kbin.social 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) 7.1 stone. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MysteriousSophon21@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 years ago (2 children) Or about 72.7 bananas permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] NotSpez@lemm.ee 2 points 3 years ago 347 yardsticks and 2 fluid ounces permalink fedilink source parent [–] elouboub@kbin.social 1 point 3 years ago How many football fields is that? permalink fedilink source parent [–] NotSpez@lemm.ee 2 points 3 years ago MVP. We should have a not for this permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 92 points 3 years ago (3 children) I think it's 38 degrees celsius for Americans too. But I'm not quite sure, could also be 2 ounces, their system is kind of weird. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] june@lemmy.world 8 points 3 years ago It’s just over half the temperature of a cooked chicken for us normal Americans. permalink fedilink source parent [–] joel_feila@lemmy.world 6 points 3 years ago the weirdest part is size 8 men shoe and size 8 women shoe are not the same size permalink fedilink source parent [+] irkli@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] june@lemmy.world 8 points 3 years ago It’s just over half the temperature of a cooked chicken for us normal Americans. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] joel_feila@lemmy.world 6 points 3 years ago the weirdest part is size 8 men shoe and size 8 women shoe are not the same size permalink fedilink source parent
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[–] DangerousDetlef@lemmy.world 18 points 3 years ago (3 children) Really had to do a double take. Like, what the fuck, the ocean is boiling, it can't be that be that bad, right? Then it clicked that you're using that weird Fahrenheit system. Yes, sorry, it's weird. Celsius is easy - water freezes at 0 and boils at 100 and there we go.. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] WrongWay@kbin.social 17 points 3 years ago (2 children) F is easy.. 0 is cold. 100 is HOT.. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] sudo@lemmy.fmhy.ml 6 points 3 years ago* (6 children) As an American this is how I interpret Celsius 100 is boiling 50 is you're gonna die from heat exhaustion eventually 40 is hot 30 is a little warm 20 is a little cool 10 is cold 0 is freezing permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [+] AmosBurton_ThatGuy@lemmy.ca 7 points 3 years ago [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent [–] Rhaedas@kbin.social 7 points 3 years ago (1 child) 30 is hot. 20 is nice. 10 is cool. 0 is ice. 40 and 50 can just not, please. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sudo@lemmy.fmhy.ml 1 point 3 years ago Yeah I'm down by 30° latitude. I'd be inclined to agree with you back when I lived north of 40° permalink fedilink source parent [–] theterrasque@infosec.pub 6 points 3 years ago As a Norwegian: 100 is boiling 40 is we all gonna die 30 is hot 20 is a little warm 10 is a little cool 0 is cold -5 is maybe time for a jacket -10 shit, it's freezingly cold outside! -15 I'll stay indoors if I can permalink fedilink source parent [–] CodeInvasion@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 years ago* I regularly convert between the two just by remembering the conversions for 10, 20, 30, and 40. It's actually pretty easy. 0C is 32F (of course) 10C is 50F 20C is 68F (a cool room temp) 30C is 86F (reciprocal of 20) 40C is 104F If you ever forget what one of them is, then just add 18F for every 10C from the last one you remember. permalink fedilink source parent [–] DaedalistKraken@ttrpg.network 2 points 3 years ago This is actually great, I've never found a good way to remember Celsius temperatures. I might go closer to Terrasque's scale though, 30 is definitely hot where I am. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (2 children) Metric: 10 mm = 1cm, 100 cm = 1m, 1000 mm = 1m, 1000m = 1 km. 1 cm3 water = 1 gram 1 Watt heats 1 gram of water 1 C° 1 dm3 water = liter = 1 kg 1 m3 = 1000 kg = 1 tonne Imperial: 1 mile = ?? yards = ?? feet = ?? inches 1 ton = ?? stone = ??punds = ?? oz = ?? grain 1 Galon = ?? pints = ?? fluid ounce 1 inch3 = ?? grain = ?? power to heat ?? fahrenheit There is no system to any of these, they are unscientific and impractical. How does Imperial still have any relevance as a measurement system? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) That's exactly how I've memorised imperial as well. We must have used the same manual. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) Yes, you could say Imperial is easier, because you'd never calculate anything in your head, you ask Google. But how did that even work before we had Internet? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago* (2 children) I suppose they had little booklets. A bit like the logarithmic tables that people kept for complicated calculations. Maybe they were issued on the first day of school or something. People would keep them all their life and look at them surreptitiously whenever they had to convert units. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago* 1 barrel is 734 ounces. Whoo what a handy table. LOL ;) permalink fedilink source parent [–] LegionEris@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago I lived someplace with an old sticker inside a cabinet door with a bunch of basic, useful conversions. It was neat. permalink fedilink source parent [–] joel_feila@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago 60 miles = 318 Kilofeet permalink fedilink source parent [–] Norgur@kbin.social 5 points 3 years ago (2 children) Thinking about it... Isn't that exactly what the Celsius scale does just with reliable definitions about what "cold" and "HOT" mean? Shower water with 38°C is hot, a bowl of rice at 38°C/100F is decidedly not "HOT". So the perceived convenience of the Fahrenheit scale is not applicable to everything, is it? How is it convenient then? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] CherenkovBlue@iusearchlinux.fyi 9 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 child) O F is the freezing temperature of a saturated brine solution, while 100 F was the body temperature of a human. Yes, body temperature has been revised a bit, but the two points were chosen as stable points that anyone could access that would generally be unchanged by pressure changes, etc. Human homeostasis is quite good at keeping a temperature in a narrow range. Also, boiling is massively affected by air pressure. At 5000' elevation, boiling is approximately 202 F and continues to get lower as altitude increases. Lots of people live at higher altitudes. (Hi! I am one of them !) Edit: I was a little off on the temperature selected for body temp, but still pretty close: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fahrenheit permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] inspired@kbin.social 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) This is really interesting and I think there is a lot of support for the body temperature point. I was curious about whether the method of deriving 0F is insensitive to pressure changes and I can't find any evidence of that. But I don't know enough about chemistry or physics myself. Do you know, or have any details on where you learned this? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CherenkovBlue@iusearchlinux.fyi 2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) So I was a little off on the temperature chosen for the body, but the Wikipedia page has some good details: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fahrenheit Re: freezing temperature of brine and pressure sensitivity, of course it is sensitive but we are talking about MPa-GPa of pressure, way beyond small pressure changes due to changes in altitude. You can get started by looking at physical chemistry of solutions if you are interested! A good place to start is "freezing point depression" and "boiling point elevation" of solutions. Also, single component phase diagrams: here it is for water. permalink fedilink source parent [–] yata@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 years ago* It is convenient because they are used to it. That is all there is to it, and peace be to that. It only becomes silly when they begin to claim that F is better for "human temperature", because again it all comes down to what you are used to and celsius is just as convenient if you are used to that. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Jaded@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 years ago* It's not boiling but that is hot tube temperature for reference. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Nepenthe@kbin.social 0 points 3 years ago* (2 children) With how mountainous Europe is, no it doesn't. What bothers me (aside from the ongoing, increasingly vivid global extinction event) is the sense that, were the situation flipped, you guys wouldn't miss a beat telling people to look it up instead of assuming every country works like theirs does. Good news is, we'll both have something else to complain about in a year or two, if we're...still able to do that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Norgur@kbin.social 1 point 3 years ago Oh, I think you might be projecting there. Have you ever been to Germany or France or any other European country? If the situation was flipped and we Europeans were the only ones using a system no one else does, we wouldn't tell you to look it up, we would never stop complaining about our governments for not changing shit. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Norgur@kbin.social 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) Oh, I think you might be projecting there. Have you ever been to Germany or France or any other European country? If the situation was flipped and we Europeans were the only ones using a system no one else does, we wouldn't tell you to look it up, we would never stop complaining about our governments for not changing shit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nepenthe@kbin.social 1 point 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) Well, I'm..american, so I'm generally too broke to leave my house. I will openly admit I'm increasingly jealous of the French tendency to fuck shit up at the slightest inconvenience. They seem to know a lot more about getting things done. I think one would also have to account for geography in that, no? If a country were landlocked and surrounded by a ton of others that all used the same separate system that they themselves do not, then there would be very significant reason and pressure to change. As much as it's derided for it, America IS very much a universe unto itself, and the only dealings it has with nations that do things differently are in areas of work that have switched over to more standard measurements. All science and engineering are primarily or totally done in metric after we crashed the Mars Orbiter headlong into the dirt at mach speed. Everything else tends to use the more mathmatically sensible kelvin. Mexico uses metric and celsius, but I've literally never had a reason to go to mexico and probably never will. Canada uses both, but same deal. I make a concerted effort to include both systems whenever I have to type for an audience of mixed/ambiguous nationality, but in my day-to-day, I will never meet another person who can easily switch between them and I have no use to do that either. It is a useless skill for me to have. Despite this, I have the sense that I see more europeans complaining about farenheit than I ever see Americans complain about celsius existing, and for such a damn stupid populace, I'm left to assume we either comment less or google it more. Regarding projecting, I could be tongue-in-cheek and ask if you've ever met a European before. Our food. Our language. Our buildings, cities, cars, media, sports, slang, holidays, garbage disposals, windows, classrooms, whether or not we take our shoes off in the house. I struggle to think of a single subject you guys will not routinely make an inordinate amount of fuss over, as if it killed your children, and I'm convinced at this point that it's for love of spite and there's literally nothing we could do to make Europe happy if we wanted to. It makes sense that any chance to acknowledge the alternate measuring system would be prime ribs. Brits especially will snark about american english that routinely turns out to be a defunct british word. Germans will complain about the drywall, but their own houses have the same drywall. Houses in Switzerland are made of wood, but nobody bitches at the Swiss. Parting note, the downvote feels in keeping with that kind of pettiness. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] WrongWay@kbin.social 17 points 3 years ago (2 children) F is easy.. 0 is cold. 100 is HOT.. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] sudo@lemmy.fmhy.ml 6 points 3 years ago* (6 children) As an American this is how I interpret Celsius 100 is boiling 50 is you're gonna die from heat exhaustion eventually 40 is hot 30 is a little warm 20 is a little cool 10 is cold 0 is freezing permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [+] AmosBurton_ThatGuy@lemmy.ca 7 points 3 years ago [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent [–] Rhaedas@kbin.social 7 points 3 years ago (1 child) 30 is hot. 20 is nice. 10 is cool. 0 is ice. 40 and 50 can just not, please. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sudo@lemmy.fmhy.ml 1 point 3 years ago Yeah I'm down by 30° latitude. I'd be inclined to agree with you back when I lived north of 40° permalink fedilink source parent [–] theterrasque@infosec.pub 6 points 3 years ago As a Norwegian: 100 is boiling 40 is we all gonna die 30 is hot 20 is a little warm 10 is a little cool 0 is cold -5 is maybe time for a jacket -10 shit, it's freezingly cold outside! -15 I'll stay indoors if I can permalink fedilink source parent [–] CodeInvasion@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 years ago* I regularly convert between the two just by remembering the conversions for 10, 20, 30, and 40. It's actually pretty easy. 0C is 32F (of course) 10C is 50F 20C is 68F (a cool room temp) 30C is 86F (reciprocal of 20) 40C is 104F If you ever forget what one of them is, then just add 18F for every 10C from the last one you remember. permalink fedilink source parent [–] DaedalistKraken@ttrpg.network 2 points 3 years ago This is actually great, I've never found a good way to remember Celsius temperatures. I might go closer to Terrasque's scale though, 30 is definitely hot where I am. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (2 children) Metric: 10 mm = 1cm, 100 cm = 1m, 1000 mm = 1m, 1000m = 1 km. 1 cm3 water = 1 gram 1 Watt heats 1 gram of water 1 C° 1 dm3 water = liter = 1 kg 1 m3 = 1000 kg = 1 tonne Imperial: 1 mile = ?? yards = ?? feet = ?? inches 1 ton = ?? stone = ??punds = ?? oz = ?? grain 1 Galon = ?? pints = ?? fluid ounce 1 inch3 = ?? grain = ?? power to heat ?? fahrenheit There is no system to any of these, they are unscientific and impractical. How does Imperial still have any relevance as a measurement system? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) That's exactly how I've memorised imperial as well. We must have used the same manual. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) Yes, you could say Imperial is easier, because you'd never calculate anything in your head, you ask Google. But how did that even work before we had Internet? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago* (2 children) I suppose they had little booklets. A bit like the logarithmic tables that people kept for complicated calculations. Maybe they were issued on the first day of school or something. People would keep them all their life and look at them surreptitiously whenever they had to convert units. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago* 1 barrel is 734 ounces. Whoo what a handy table. LOL ;) permalink fedilink source parent [–] LegionEris@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago I lived someplace with an old sticker inside a cabinet door with a bunch of basic, useful conversions. It was neat. permalink fedilink source parent [–] joel_feila@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago 60 miles = 318 Kilofeet permalink fedilink source parent [–] Norgur@kbin.social 5 points 3 years ago (2 children) Thinking about it... Isn't that exactly what the Celsius scale does just with reliable definitions about what "cold" and "HOT" mean? Shower water with 38°C is hot, a bowl of rice at 38°C/100F is decidedly not "HOT". So the perceived convenience of the Fahrenheit scale is not applicable to everything, is it? How is it convenient then? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] CherenkovBlue@iusearchlinux.fyi 9 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 child) O F is the freezing temperature of a saturated brine solution, while 100 F was the body temperature of a human. Yes, body temperature has been revised a bit, but the two points were chosen as stable points that anyone could access that would generally be unchanged by pressure changes, etc. Human homeostasis is quite good at keeping a temperature in a narrow range. Also, boiling is massively affected by air pressure. At 5000' elevation, boiling is approximately 202 F and continues to get lower as altitude increases. Lots of people live at higher altitudes. (Hi! I am one of them !) Edit: I was a little off on the temperature selected for body temp, but still pretty close: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fahrenheit permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] inspired@kbin.social 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) This is really interesting and I think there is a lot of support for the body temperature point. I was curious about whether the method of deriving 0F is insensitive to pressure changes and I can't find any evidence of that. But I don't know enough about chemistry or physics myself. Do you know, or have any details on where you learned this? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CherenkovBlue@iusearchlinux.fyi 2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) So I was a little off on the temperature chosen for the body, but the Wikipedia page has some good details: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fahrenheit Re: freezing temperature of brine and pressure sensitivity, of course it is sensitive but we are talking about MPa-GPa of pressure, way beyond small pressure changes due to changes in altitude. You can get started by looking at physical chemistry of solutions if you are interested! A good place to start is "freezing point depression" and "boiling point elevation" of solutions. Also, single component phase diagrams: here it is for water. permalink fedilink source parent [–] yata@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 years ago* It is convenient because they are used to it. That is all there is to it, and peace be to that. It only becomes silly when they begin to claim that F is better for "human temperature", because again it all comes down to what you are used to and celsius is just as convenient if you are used to that. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sudo@lemmy.fmhy.ml 6 points 3 years ago* (6 children) As an American this is how I interpret Celsius 100 is boiling 50 is you're gonna die from heat exhaustion eventually 40 is hot 30 is a little warm 20 is a little cool 10 is cold 0 is freezing permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [+] AmosBurton_ThatGuy@lemmy.ca 7 points 3 years ago [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent [–] Rhaedas@kbin.social 7 points 3 years ago (1 child) 30 is hot. 20 is nice. 10 is cool. 0 is ice. 40 and 50 can just not, please. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sudo@lemmy.fmhy.ml 1 point 3 years ago Yeah I'm down by 30° latitude. I'd be inclined to agree with you back when I lived north of 40° permalink fedilink source parent [–] theterrasque@infosec.pub 6 points 3 years ago As a Norwegian: 100 is boiling 40 is we all gonna die 30 is hot 20 is a little warm 10 is a little cool 0 is cold -5 is maybe time for a jacket -10 shit, it's freezingly cold outside! -15 I'll stay indoors if I can permalink fedilink source parent [–] CodeInvasion@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 years ago* I regularly convert between the two just by remembering the conversions for 10, 20, 30, and 40. It's actually pretty easy. 0C is 32F (of course) 10C is 50F 20C is 68F (a cool room temp) 30C is 86F (reciprocal of 20) 40C is 104F If you ever forget what one of them is, then just add 18F for every 10C from the last one you remember. permalink fedilink source parent [–] DaedalistKraken@ttrpg.network 2 points 3 years ago This is actually great, I've never found a good way to remember Celsius temperatures. I might go closer to Terrasque's scale though, 30 is definitely hot where I am. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (2 children) Metric: 10 mm = 1cm, 100 cm = 1m, 1000 mm = 1m, 1000m = 1 km. 1 cm3 water = 1 gram 1 Watt heats 1 gram of water 1 C° 1 dm3 water = liter = 1 kg 1 m3 = 1000 kg = 1 tonne Imperial: 1 mile = ?? yards = ?? feet = ?? inches 1 ton = ?? stone = ??punds = ?? oz = ?? grain 1 Galon = ?? pints = ?? fluid ounce 1 inch3 = ?? grain = ?? power to heat ?? fahrenheit There is no system to any of these, they are unscientific and impractical. How does Imperial still have any relevance as a measurement system? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) That's exactly how I've memorised imperial as well. We must have used the same manual. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) Yes, you could say Imperial is easier, because you'd never calculate anything in your head, you ask Google. But how did that even work before we had Internet? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago* (2 children) I suppose they had little booklets. A bit like the logarithmic tables that people kept for complicated calculations. Maybe they were issued on the first day of school or something. People would keep them all their life and look at them surreptitiously whenever they had to convert units. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago* 1 barrel is 734 ounces. Whoo what a handy table. LOL ;) permalink fedilink source parent [–] LegionEris@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago I lived someplace with an old sticker inside a cabinet door with a bunch of basic, useful conversions. It was neat. permalink fedilink source parent [–] joel_feila@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago 60 miles = 318 Kilofeet permalink fedilink source parent
[+] AmosBurton_ThatGuy@lemmy.ca 7 points 3 years ago [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Rhaedas@kbin.social 7 points 3 years ago (1 child) 30 is hot. 20 is nice. 10 is cool. 0 is ice. 40 and 50 can just not, please. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sudo@lemmy.fmhy.ml 1 point 3 years ago Yeah I'm down by 30° latitude. I'd be inclined to agree with you back when I lived north of 40° permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sudo@lemmy.fmhy.ml 1 point 3 years ago Yeah I'm down by 30° latitude. I'd be inclined to agree with you back when I lived north of 40° permalink fedilink source parent
[–] theterrasque@infosec.pub 6 points 3 years ago As a Norwegian: 100 is boiling 40 is we all gonna die 30 is hot 20 is a little warm 10 is a little cool 0 is cold -5 is maybe time for a jacket -10 shit, it's freezingly cold outside! -15 I'll stay indoors if I can permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CodeInvasion@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 years ago* I regularly convert between the two just by remembering the conversions for 10, 20, 30, and 40. It's actually pretty easy. 0C is 32F (of course) 10C is 50F 20C is 68F (a cool room temp) 30C is 86F (reciprocal of 20) 40C is 104F If you ever forget what one of them is, then just add 18F for every 10C from the last one you remember. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DaedalistKraken@ttrpg.network 2 points 3 years ago This is actually great, I've never found a good way to remember Celsius temperatures. I might go closer to Terrasque's scale though, 30 is definitely hot where I am. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (2 children) Metric: 10 mm = 1cm, 100 cm = 1m, 1000 mm = 1m, 1000m = 1 km. 1 cm3 water = 1 gram 1 Watt heats 1 gram of water 1 C° 1 dm3 water = liter = 1 kg 1 m3 = 1000 kg = 1 tonne Imperial: 1 mile = ?? yards = ?? feet = ?? inches 1 ton = ?? stone = ??punds = ?? oz = ?? grain 1 Galon = ?? pints = ?? fluid ounce 1 inch3 = ?? grain = ?? power to heat ?? fahrenheit There is no system to any of these, they are unscientific and impractical. How does Imperial still have any relevance as a measurement system? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) That's exactly how I've memorised imperial as well. We must have used the same manual. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) Yes, you could say Imperial is easier, because you'd never calculate anything in your head, you ask Google. But how did that even work before we had Internet? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago* (2 children) I suppose they had little booklets. A bit like the logarithmic tables that people kept for complicated calculations. Maybe they were issued on the first day of school or something. People would keep them all their life and look at them surreptitiously whenever they had to convert units. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago* 1 barrel is 734 ounces. Whoo what a handy table. LOL ;) permalink fedilink source parent [–] LegionEris@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago I lived someplace with an old sticker inside a cabinet door with a bunch of basic, useful conversions. It was neat. permalink fedilink source parent [–] joel_feila@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago 60 miles = 318 Kilofeet permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) That's exactly how I've memorised imperial as well. We must have used the same manual. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) Yes, you could say Imperial is easier, because you'd never calculate anything in your head, you ask Google. But how did that even work before we had Internet? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago* (2 children) I suppose they had little booklets. A bit like the logarithmic tables that people kept for complicated calculations. Maybe they were issued on the first day of school or something. People would keep them all their life and look at them surreptitiously whenever they had to convert units. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago* 1 barrel is 734 ounces. Whoo what a handy table. LOL ;) permalink fedilink source parent [–] LegionEris@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago I lived someplace with an old sticker inside a cabinet door with a bunch of basic, useful conversions. It was neat. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) Yes, you could say Imperial is easier, because you'd never calculate anything in your head, you ask Google. But how did that even work before we had Internet? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago* (2 children) I suppose they had little booklets. A bit like the logarithmic tables that people kept for complicated calculations. Maybe they were issued on the first day of school or something. People would keep them all their life and look at them surreptitiously whenever they had to convert units. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago* 1 barrel is 734 ounces. Whoo what a handy table. LOL ;) permalink fedilink source parent [–] LegionEris@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago I lived someplace with an old sticker inside a cabinet door with a bunch of basic, useful conversions. It was neat. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago* (2 children) I suppose they had little booklets. A bit like the logarithmic tables that people kept for complicated calculations. Maybe they were issued on the first day of school or something. People would keep them all their life and look at them surreptitiously whenever they had to convert units. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago* 1 barrel is 734 ounces. Whoo what a handy table. LOL ;) permalink fedilink source parent [–] LegionEris@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago I lived someplace with an old sticker inside a cabinet door with a bunch of basic, useful conversions. It was neat. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago* 1 barrel is 734 ounces. Whoo what a handy table. LOL ;) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] LegionEris@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago I lived someplace with an old sticker inside a cabinet door with a bunch of basic, useful conversions. It was neat. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] joel_feila@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago 60 miles = 318 Kilofeet permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Norgur@kbin.social 5 points 3 years ago (2 children) Thinking about it... Isn't that exactly what the Celsius scale does just with reliable definitions about what "cold" and "HOT" mean? Shower water with 38°C is hot, a bowl of rice at 38°C/100F is decidedly not "HOT". So the perceived convenience of the Fahrenheit scale is not applicable to everything, is it? How is it convenient then? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] CherenkovBlue@iusearchlinux.fyi 9 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 child) O F is the freezing temperature of a saturated brine solution, while 100 F was the body temperature of a human. Yes, body temperature has been revised a bit, but the two points were chosen as stable points that anyone could access that would generally be unchanged by pressure changes, etc. Human homeostasis is quite good at keeping a temperature in a narrow range. Also, boiling is massively affected by air pressure. At 5000' elevation, boiling is approximately 202 F and continues to get lower as altitude increases. Lots of people live at higher altitudes. (Hi! I am one of them !) Edit: I was a little off on the temperature selected for body temp, but still pretty close: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fahrenheit permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] inspired@kbin.social 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) This is really interesting and I think there is a lot of support for the body temperature point. I was curious about whether the method of deriving 0F is insensitive to pressure changes and I can't find any evidence of that. But I don't know enough about chemistry or physics myself. Do you know, or have any details on where you learned this? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CherenkovBlue@iusearchlinux.fyi 2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) So I was a little off on the temperature chosen for the body, but the Wikipedia page has some good details: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fahrenheit Re: freezing temperature of brine and pressure sensitivity, of course it is sensitive but we are talking about MPa-GPa of pressure, way beyond small pressure changes due to changes in altitude. You can get started by looking at physical chemistry of solutions if you are interested! A good place to start is "freezing point depression" and "boiling point elevation" of solutions. Also, single component phase diagrams: here it is for water. permalink fedilink source parent [–] yata@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 years ago* It is convenient because they are used to it. That is all there is to it, and peace be to that. It only becomes silly when they begin to claim that F is better for "human temperature", because again it all comes down to what you are used to and celsius is just as convenient if you are used to that. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CherenkovBlue@iusearchlinux.fyi 9 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 child) O F is the freezing temperature of a saturated brine solution, while 100 F was the body temperature of a human. Yes, body temperature has been revised a bit, but the two points were chosen as stable points that anyone could access that would generally be unchanged by pressure changes, etc. Human homeostasis is quite good at keeping a temperature in a narrow range. Also, boiling is massively affected by air pressure. At 5000' elevation, boiling is approximately 202 F and continues to get lower as altitude increases. Lots of people live at higher altitudes. (Hi! I am one of them !) Edit: I was a little off on the temperature selected for body temp, but still pretty close: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fahrenheit permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] inspired@kbin.social 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) This is really interesting and I think there is a lot of support for the body temperature point. I was curious about whether the method of deriving 0F is insensitive to pressure changes and I can't find any evidence of that. But I don't know enough about chemistry or physics myself. Do you know, or have any details on where you learned this? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CherenkovBlue@iusearchlinux.fyi 2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) So I was a little off on the temperature chosen for the body, but the Wikipedia page has some good details: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fahrenheit Re: freezing temperature of brine and pressure sensitivity, of course it is sensitive but we are talking about MPa-GPa of pressure, way beyond small pressure changes due to changes in altitude. You can get started by looking at physical chemistry of solutions if you are interested! A good place to start is "freezing point depression" and "boiling point elevation" of solutions. Also, single component phase diagrams: here it is for water. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] inspired@kbin.social 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) This is really interesting and I think there is a lot of support for the body temperature point. I was curious about whether the method of deriving 0F is insensitive to pressure changes and I can't find any evidence of that. But I don't know enough about chemistry or physics myself. Do you know, or have any details on where you learned this? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CherenkovBlue@iusearchlinux.fyi 2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) So I was a little off on the temperature chosen for the body, but the Wikipedia page has some good details: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fahrenheit Re: freezing temperature of brine and pressure sensitivity, of course it is sensitive but we are talking about MPa-GPa of pressure, way beyond small pressure changes due to changes in altitude. You can get started by looking at physical chemistry of solutions if you are interested! A good place to start is "freezing point depression" and "boiling point elevation" of solutions. Also, single component phase diagrams: here it is for water. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CherenkovBlue@iusearchlinux.fyi 2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) So I was a little off on the temperature chosen for the body, but the Wikipedia page has some good details: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fahrenheit Re: freezing temperature of brine and pressure sensitivity, of course it is sensitive but we are talking about MPa-GPa of pressure, way beyond small pressure changes due to changes in altitude. You can get started by looking at physical chemistry of solutions if you are interested! A good place to start is "freezing point depression" and "boiling point elevation" of solutions. Also, single component phase diagrams: here it is for water. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] yata@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 years ago* It is convenient because they are used to it. That is all there is to it, and peace be to that. It only becomes silly when they begin to claim that F is better for "human temperature", because again it all comes down to what you are used to and celsius is just as convenient if you are used to that. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Jaded@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 years ago* It's not boiling but that is hot tube temperature for reference. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Nepenthe@kbin.social 0 points 3 years ago* (2 children) With how mountainous Europe is, no it doesn't. What bothers me (aside from the ongoing, increasingly vivid global extinction event) is the sense that, were the situation flipped, you guys wouldn't miss a beat telling people to look it up instead of assuming every country works like theirs does. Good news is, we'll both have something else to complain about in a year or two, if we're...still able to do that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Norgur@kbin.social 1 point 3 years ago Oh, I think you might be projecting there. Have you ever been to Germany or France or any other European country? If the situation was flipped and we Europeans were the only ones using a system no one else does, we wouldn't tell you to look it up, we would never stop complaining about our governments for not changing shit. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Norgur@kbin.social 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) Oh, I think you might be projecting there. Have you ever been to Germany or France or any other European country? If the situation was flipped and we Europeans were the only ones using a system no one else does, we wouldn't tell you to look it up, we would never stop complaining about our governments for not changing shit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nepenthe@kbin.social 1 point 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) Well, I'm..american, so I'm generally too broke to leave my house. I will openly admit I'm increasingly jealous of the French tendency to fuck shit up at the slightest inconvenience. They seem to know a lot more about getting things done. I think one would also have to account for geography in that, no? If a country were landlocked and surrounded by a ton of others that all used the same separate system that they themselves do not, then there would be very significant reason and pressure to change. As much as it's derided for it, America IS very much a universe unto itself, and the only dealings it has with nations that do things differently are in areas of work that have switched over to more standard measurements. All science and engineering are primarily or totally done in metric after we crashed the Mars Orbiter headlong into the dirt at mach speed. Everything else tends to use the more mathmatically sensible kelvin. Mexico uses metric and celsius, but I've literally never had a reason to go to mexico and probably never will. Canada uses both, but same deal. I make a concerted effort to include both systems whenever I have to type for an audience of mixed/ambiguous nationality, but in my day-to-day, I will never meet another person who can easily switch between them and I have no use to do that either. It is a useless skill for me to have. Despite this, I have the sense that I see more europeans complaining about farenheit than I ever see Americans complain about celsius existing, and for such a damn stupid populace, I'm left to assume we either comment less or google it more. Regarding projecting, I could be tongue-in-cheek and ask if you've ever met a European before. Our food. Our language. Our buildings, cities, cars, media, sports, slang, holidays, garbage disposals, windows, classrooms, whether or not we take our shoes off in the house. I struggle to think of a single subject you guys will not routinely make an inordinate amount of fuss over, as if it killed your children, and I'm convinced at this point that it's for love of spite and there's literally nothing we could do to make Europe happy if we wanted to. It makes sense that any chance to acknowledge the alternate measuring system would be prime ribs. Brits especially will snark about american english that routinely turns out to be a defunct british word. Germans will complain about the drywall, but their own houses have the same drywall. Houses in Switzerland are made of wood, but nobody bitches at the Swiss. Parting note, the downvote feels in keeping with that kind of pettiness. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Norgur@kbin.social 1 point 3 years ago Oh, I think you might be projecting there. Have you ever been to Germany or France or any other European country? If the situation was flipped and we Europeans were the only ones using a system no one else does, we wouldn't tell you to look it up, we would never stop complaining about our governments for not changing shit. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Norgur@kbin.social 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) Oh, I think you might be projecting there. Have you ever been to Germany or France or any other European country? If the situation was flipped and we Europeans were the only ones using a system no one else does, we wouldn't tell you to look it up, we would never stop complaining about our governments for not changing shit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nepenthe@kbin.social 1 point 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) Well, I'm..american, so I'm generally too broke to leave my house. I will openly admit I'm increasingly jealous of the French tendency to fuck shit up at the slightest inconvenience. They seem to know a lot more about getting things done. I think one would also have to account for geography in that, no? If a country were landlocked and surrounded by a ton of others that all used the same separate system that they themselves do not, then there would be very significant reason and pressure to change. As much as it's derided for it, America IS very much a universe unto itself, and the only dealings it has with nations that do things differently are in areas of work that have switched over to more standard measurements. All science and engineering are primarily or totally done in metric after we crashed the Mars Orbiter headlong into the dirt at mach speed. Everything else tends to use the more mathmatically sensible kelvin. Mexico uses metric and celsius, but I've literally never had a reason to go to mexico and probably never will. Canada uses both, but same deal. I make a concerted effort to include both systems whenever I have to type for an audience of mixed/ambiguous nationality, but in my day-to-day, I will never meet another person who can easily switch between them and I have no use to do that either. It is a useless skill for me to have. Despite this, I have the sense that I see more europeans complaining about farenheit than I ever see Americans complain about celsius existing, and for such a damn stupid populace, I'm left to assume we either comment less or google it more. Regarding projecting, I could be tongue-in-cheek and ask if you've ever met a European before. Our food. Our language. Our buildings, cities, cars, media, sports, slang, holidays, garbage disposals, windows, classrooms, whether or not we take our shoes off in the house. I struggle to think of a single subject you guys will not routinely make an inordinate amount of fuss over, as if it killed your children, and I'm convinced at this point that it's for love of spite and there's literally nothing we could do to make Europe happy if we wanted to. It makes sense that any chance to acknowledge the alternate measuring system would be prime ribs. Brits especially will snark about american english that routinely turns out to be a defunct british word. Germans will complain about the drywall, but their own houses have the same drywall. Houses in Switzerland are made of wood, but nobody bitches at the Swiss. Parting note, the downvote feels in keeping with that kind of pettiness. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Nepenthe@kbin.social 1 point 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) Well, I'm..american, so I'm generally too broke to leave my house. I will openly admit I'm increasingly jealous of the French tendency to fuck shit up at the slightest inconvenience. They seem to know a lot more about getting things done. I think one would also have to account for geography in that, no? If a country were landlocked and surrounded by a ton of others that all used the same separate system that they themselves do not, then there would be very significant reason and pressure to change. As much as it's derided for it, America IS very much a universe unto itself, and the only dealings it has with nations that do things differently are in areas of work that have switched over to more standard measurements. All science and engineering are primarily or totally done in metric after we crashed the Mars Orbiter headlong into the dirt at mach speed. Everything else tends to use the more mathmatically sensible kelvin. Mexico uses metric and celsius, but I've literally never had a reason to go to mexico and probably never will. Canada uses both, but same deal. I make a concerted effort to include both systems whenever I have to type for an audience of mixed/ambiguous nationality, but in my day-to-day, I will never meet another person who can easily switch between them and I have no use to do that either. It is a useless skill for me to have. Despite this, I have the sense that I see more europeans complaining about farenheit than I ever see Americans complain about celsius existing, and for such a damn stupid populace, I'm left to assume we either comment less or google it more. Regarding projecting, I could be tongue-in-cheek and ask if you've ever met a European before. Our food. Our language. Our buildings, cities, cars, media, sports, slang, holidays, garbage disposals, windows, classrooms, whether or not we take our shoes off in the house. I struggle to think of a single subject you guys will not routinely make an inordinate amount of fuss over, as if it killed your children, and I'm convinced at this point that it's for love of spite and there's literally nothing we could do to make Europe happy if we wanted to. It makes sense that any chance to acknowledge the alternate measuring system would be prime ribs. Brits especially will snark about american english that routinely turns out to be a defunct british word. Germans will complain about the drywall, but their own houses have the same drywall. Houses in Switzerland are made of wood, but nobody bitches at the Swiss. Parting note, the downvote feels in keeping with that kind of pettiness. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dismalnow@kbin.social 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) 7.1 stone. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MysteriousSophon21@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 years ago (2 children) Or about 72.7 bananas permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] NotSpez@lemm.ee 2 points 3 years ago 347 yardsticks and 2 fluid ounces permalink fedilink source parent [–] elouboub@kbin.social 1 point 3 years ago How many football fields is that? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MysteriousSophon21@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 years ago (2 children) Or about 72.7 bananas permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] NotSpez@lemm.ee 2 points 3 years ago 347 yardsticks and 2 fluid ounces permalink fedilink source parent [–] elouboub@kbin.social 1 point 3 years ago How many football fields is that? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] NotSpez@lemm.ee 2 points 3 years ago 347 yardsticks and 2 fluid ounces permalink fedilink source parent
[–] elouboub@kbin.social 1 point 3 years ago How many football fields is that? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] NotSpez@lemm.ee 2 points 3 years ago MVP. We should have a not for this permalink fedilink source parent