▲ 161 ▼ You know what they say about assumptions... (startrek.website) submitted 2 years ago by RandalThor@startrek.website to c/risa@startrek.website 111 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] USSBurritoTruck@startrek.website 6 points 2 years ago (3 children) And even then, there wasn’t much gayness to his acting. Care to elaborate? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Bonehead@kbin.social 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) What is there to elaborate? Other than a brief embrace shown on screen, he didn't appear to play the role in any stereotypical gay manner. That's all... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] USSBurritoTruck@startrek.website -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) Why would the character be a stereotype? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Bonehead@kbin.social 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) I didn't say he was. That's the entire point. They briefly showed some gay characteristics on screen, but otherwise he just played the character plainly. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] USSBurritoTruck@startrek.website -4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah, he played the character like a real person (who lives in space and brings a sword to a skydiving phaser fight) and not a caricature. I'm assuming you don't believe all gay men are stereotypes from 1980s comedies? So, unless you were expecting there to be hardcore man on man penetrative sex on screen, what would "gayness" to John Cho's acting mean? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Bonehead@kbin.social 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'm not playing this game. You're obviously looking for a confrontation. You'll have to find someone else to play with. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] USSBurritoTruck@startrek.website -4 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'm not looking for a confrontation, I just want to know what "gayness in acting" means, and why it is apparently a problem. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Bonehead@kbin.social 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) I never said it was a problem. You're trying to make a problem where none exists. I'm not playing this game. Have a nice day. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] USSBurritoTruck@startrek.website -4 points 2 years ago You’re trying to make a problem where none exists. Again, I'm only trying to figure out what you meant when you said: And even then, there wasn’t much gayness to his acting. Because it sounds pretty ignorant. permalink fedilink source parent [–] grue@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) He wasn't a Hollywood camp gay stereotype character. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] USSBurritoTruck@startrek.website -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) Why would anyone think he would be? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] grue@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Because usually when Hollywood includes a gay character they're doing it to villainize them, make fun of them, or show them off to cynically virtue-signal diversity. Having a character that's just a normal character who happens to be gay, without making a big deal about it or using it as a plot point, is rare. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] USSBurritoTruck@startrek.website 1 point 2 years ago Having a character that’s just a normal character who happens to be gay, without making a big deal about it or using it as a plot point, is rare. I don't know if that's as true even in 2016 when the movie came out, as it once was. permalink fedilink source parent [–] lugal@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 years ago Someone didn't read the Hays Code or anything. He didn't die (kill your gays trope), he's not portrayed as a "for ever" bachelor (but has a same sex partner, very ungay). Only thing is crossdressing. He wears the same standard uniform that women do in Starfleet. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Bonehead@kbin.social 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) What is there to elaborate? Other than a brief embrace shown on screen, he didn't appear to play the role in any stereotypical gay manner. That's all... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] USSBurritoTruck@startrek.website -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) Why would the character be a stereotype? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Bonehead@kbin.social 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) I didn't say he was. That's the entire point. They briefly showed some gay characteristics on screen, but otherwise he just played the character plainly. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] USSBurritoTruck@startrek.website -4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah, he played the character like a real person (who lives in space and brings a sword to a skydiving phaser fight) and not a caricature. I'm assuming you don't believe all gay men are stereotypes from 1980s comedies? So, unless you were expecting there to be hardcore man on man penetrative sex on screen, what would "gayness" to John Cho's acting mean? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Bonehead@kbin.social 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'm not playing this game. You're obviously looking for a confrontation. You'll have to find someone else to play with. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] USSBurritoTruck@startrek.website -4 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'm not looking for a confrontation, I just want to know what "gayness in acting" means, and why it is apparently a problem. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Bonehead@kbin.social 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) I never said it was a problem. You're trying to make a problem where none exists. I'm not playing this game. Have a nice day. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] USSBurritoTruck@startrek.website -4 points 2 years ago You’re trying to make a problem where none exists. Again, I'm only trying to figure out what you meant when you said: And even then, there wasn’t much gayness to his acting. Because it sounds pretty ignorant. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] USSBurritoTruck@startrek.website -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) Why would the character be a stereotype? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Bonehead@kbin.social 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) I didn't say he was. That's the entire point. They briefly showed some gay characteristics on screen, but otherwise he just played the character plainly. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] USSBurritoTruck@startrek.website -4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah, he played the character like a real person (who lives in space and brings a sword to a skydiving phaser fight) and not a caricature. I'm assuming you don't believe all gay men are stereotypes from 1980s comedies? So, unless you were expecting there to be hardcore man on man penetrative sex on screen, what would "gayness" to John Cho's acting mean? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Bonehead@kbin.social 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'm not playing this game. You're obviously looking for a confrontation. You'll have to find someone else to play with. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] USSBurritoTruck@startrek.website -4 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'm not looking for a confrontation, I just want to know what "gayness in acting" means, and why it is apparently a problem. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Bonehead@kbin.social 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) I never said it was a problem. You're trying to make a problem where none exists. I'm not playing this game. Have a nice day. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] USSBurritoTruck@startrek.website -4 points 2 years ago You’re trying to make a problem where none exists. Again, I'm only trying to figure out what you meant when you said: And even then, there wasn’t much gayness to his acting. Because it sounds pretty ignorant. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Bonehead@kbin.social 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) I didn't say he was. That's the entire point. They briefly showed some gay characteristics on screen, but otherwise he just played the character plainly. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] USSBurritoTruck@startrek.website -4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah, he played the character like a real person (who lives in space and brings a sword to a skydiving phaser fight) and not a caricature. I'm assuming you don't believe all gay men are stereotypes from 1980s comedies? So, unless you were expecting there to be hardcore man on man penetrative sex on screen, what would "gayness" to John Cho's acting mean? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Bonehead@kbin.social 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'm not playing this game. You're obviously looking for a confrontation. You'll have to find someone else to play with. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] USSBurritoTruck@startrek.website -4 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'm not looking for a confrontation, I just want to know what "gayness in acting" means, and why it is apparently a problem. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Bonehead@kbin.social 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) I never said it was a problem. You're trying to make a problem where none exists. I'm not playing this game. Have a nice day. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] USSBurritoTruck@startrek.website -4 points 2 years ago You’re trying to make a problem where none exists. Again, I'm only trying to figure out what you meant when you said: And even then, there wasn’t much gayness to his acting. Because it sounds pretty ignorant. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] USSBurritoTruck@startrek.website -4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah, he played the character like a real person (who lives in space and brings a sword to a skydiving phaser fight) and not a caricature. I'm assuming you don't believe all gay men are stereotypes from 1980s comedies? So, unless you were expecting there to be hardcore man on man penetrative sex on screen, what would "gayness" to John Cho's acting mean? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Bonehead@kbin.social 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'm not playing this game. You're obviously looking for a confrontation. You'll have to find someone else to play with. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] USSBurritoTruck@startrek.website -4 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'm not looking for a confrontation, I just want to know what "gayness in acting" means, and why it is apparently a problem. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Bonehead@kbin.social 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) I never said it was a problem. You're trying to make a problem where none exists. I'm not playing this game. Have a nice day. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] USSBurritoTruck@startrek.website -4 points 2 years ago You’re trying to make a problem where none exists. Again, I'm only trying to figure out what you meant when you said: And even then, there wasn’t much gayness to his acting. Because it sounds pretty ignorant. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Bonehead@kbin.social 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'm not playing this game. You're obviously looking for a confrontation. You'll have to find someone else to play with. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] USSBurritoTruck@startrek.website -4 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'm not looking for a confrontation, I just want to know what "gayness in acting" means, and why it is apparently a problem. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Bonehead@kbin.social 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) I never said it was a problem. You're trying to make a problem where none exists. I'm not playing this game. Have a nice day. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] USSBurritoTruck@startrek.website -4 points 2 years ago You’re trying to make a problem where none exists. Again, I'm only trying to figure out what you meant when you said: And even then, there wasn’t much gayness to his acting. Because it sounds pretty ignorant. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] USSBurritoTruck@startrek.website -4 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'm not looking for a confrontation, I just want to know what "gayness in acting" means, and why it is apparently a problem. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Bonehead@kbin.social 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) I never said it was a problem. You're trying to make a problem where none exists. I'm not playing this game. Have a nice day. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] USSBurritoTruck@startrek.website -4 points 2 years ago You’re trying to make a problem where none exists. Again, I'm only trying to figure out what you meant when you said: And even then, there wasn’t much gayness to his acting. Because it sounds pretty ignorant. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Bonehead@kbin.social 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) I never said it was a problem. You're trying to make a problem where none exists. I'm not playing this game. Have a nice day. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] USSBurritoTruck@startrek.website -4 points 2 years ago You’re trying to make a problem where none exists. Again, I'm only trying to figure out what you meant when you said: And even then, there wasn’t much gayness to his acting. Because it sounds pretty ignorant. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] USSBurritoTruck@startrek.website -4 points 2 years ago You’re trying to make a problem where none exists. Again, I'm only trying to figure out what you meant when you said: And even then, there wasn’t much gayness to his acting. Because it sounds pretty ignorant. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] grue@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) He wasn't a Hollywood camp gay stereotype character. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] USSBurritoTruck@startrek.website -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) Why would anyone think he would be? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] grue@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Because usually when Hollywood includes a gay character they're doing it to villainize them, make fun of them, or show them off to cynically virtue-signal diversity. Having a character that's just a normal character who happens to be gay, without making a big deal about it or using it as a plot point, is rare. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] USSBurritoTruck@startrek.website 1 point 2 years ago Having a character that’s just a normal character who happens to be gay, without making a big deal about it or using it as a plot point, is rare. I don't know if that's as true even in 2016 when the movie came out, as it once was. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] USSBurritoTruck@startrek.website -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) Why would anyone think he would be? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] grue@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Because usually when Hollywood includes a gay character they're doing it to villainize them, make fun of them, or show them off to cynically virtue-signal diversity. Having a character that's just a normal character who happens to be gay, without making a big deal about it or using it as a plot point, is rare. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] USSBurritoTruck@startrek.website 1 point 2 years ago Having a character that’s just a normal character who happens to be gay, without making a big deal about it or using it as a plot point, is rare. I don't know if that's as true even in 2016 when the movie came out, as it once was. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] grue@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Because usually when Hollywood includes a gay character they're doing it to villainize them, make fun of them, or show them off to cynically virtue-signal diversity. Having a character that's just a normal character who happens to be gay, without making a big deal about it or using it as a plot point, is rare. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] USSBurritoTruck@startrek.website 1 point 2 years ago Having a character that’s just a normal character who happens to be gay, without making a big deal about it or using it as a plot point, is rare. I don't know if that's as true even in 2016 when the movie came out, as it once was. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] USSBurritoTruck@startrek.website 1 point 2 years ago Having a character that’s just a normal character who happens to be gay, without making a big deal about it or using it as a plot point, is rare. I don't know if that's as true even in 2016 when the movie came out, as it once was. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] lugal@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 years ago Someone didn't read the Hays Code or anything. He didn't die (kill your gays trope), he's not portrayed as a "for ever" bachelor (but has a same sex partner, very ungay). Only thing is crossdressing. He wears the same standard uniform that women do in Starfleet. permalink fedilink source parent