▲ 158 ▼ Here's why the $3,500 Apple Vision Pro headset is so expensive (www.cnbc.com) submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by catculation@lemmy.zip to c/technology@lemmy.world 98 comments fedilink hide all child comments The $3499 Apple Vision Pro reportedly costs $1542 to make. Edit: Archive link https://archive.ph/u4BCi
[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 41 points 2 years ago (23 children) The reason: Apple. permalink fedilink source hideshow 23 child comments replies: [–] olympicyes@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (20 children) Unjerk for a moment. How much should something like this cost? Serious question. Seems like it can do things other devices really can’t. Saw a video yesterday from a programmer who said it could replicate an impossible physical setup. I don’t have a need for it but maybe someone else can see the value. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 20 child comments replies: [–] dodeca@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) The Apple Vision Pro supports only one 4k display for your Mac. I've seen some unreleased app dev stuff claiming to support another display, but as far as I know today there isn't any way to do it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] olympicyes@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago The one I saw was a single 5K but he was running it at standard resolution (not retina) and making the screen equivalent to 50”. He also used a couple native safari windows on either side, which helps mitigate the single screen issue. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Kolrami@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) Good question. I don't have a good source, but this one guy tried to come up with a breakdown a few months ago and in parts alone he estimated $1529. Inner and outer display including display lens: $840 Silicon content including M2 and R1 chips: $240 Sensors and cameras: $120 Battery: $18 Spatial Audio: $11 Housing, PCBS, cables, connectors, and packaging: $170 Assembly: $130 It aligns with the number in the article. The rest seems like a business decision. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] PipedLinkBot@feddit.rocks [B] 1 point 2 years ago Here is an alternative Piped link(s): one guy tried to come up with a breakdown a few months ago and in parts alone he estimated $1529 Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube. I'm open-source; check me out at GitHub. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net -1 points 2 years ago (11 children) The Quest 3 is capable of the same stuff and is only $500. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 2 years ago (3 children) Every single reviewer is saying that the quality of the VR and specially the AR blows any competition out of the water. I highly doubt your comment is true. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) The quality is better but it still does "the same stuff". A PC with a 1080p display and Nvidia 3050 does the same stuff as a 4k display and an Nvidia 4080. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] PeroBasta@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Some titles may run at higher FPS on the 3050 build XD permalink fedilink source parent [–] ferralcat@monyet.cc 1 point 2 years ago It costs 10x more. It sure as hell better do things better than the quest. permalink fedilink source parent [–] CptEnder@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (3 children) Adding the Valve Index is a another high end model that does all this and more for $1000. The big difference is the Apple's AR features permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] june@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) I’d agree with you, but the index isn’t a standalone device. Pack all the computing power into the index and the price is going to skyrocket. Edit to add: index doesn’t have eye or hand tracking. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dodeca@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) They already did, the VIVE XR Elite, and its $1000. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] june@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago What? That’s… an entirely different headset? Not even the same manufacturer. There’s also some fairly significant differences between them. The person I replied to said that the Index does all the same stuff that the Vision Pro does which is empirically incorrect. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Nyxon@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) I have both and the Quest 3 is definitely not capable of the same stuff. Kevin Sorbo and Kevin Costner are capable of the same stuff too but there is a clear difference in performance and value. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) I get the point but you could have picked at least one good actor instead of two mediocre ones. Sorbo vs Spacy. Big difference in both acting ability and how shitty they are as people. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Nyxon@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* I get your point too. Kevin Sorbo was the name that came to my head first, for some reason, and Kevin Costner followed. TBF though, Kevin Costner has won 2 Academy Awards, one for Best Director (Dances with Wolves in 1991) and has been nominated for a best actor award. He does have a long list of industry accomplishments in various roles. Kevin Sorbo doesn’t have anything close to that. I’m not a big fan of Kevin Costner but objectively speaking he is accomplished in his career. Kevin Spacey wouldn’t have been better though, with his rapey background and all that, wouldn’t feel right putting him forward as something to aspire to. Maybe Kevin Sorbo and Kevin Kline would have been a better comparison. permalink fedilink source parent [+] FonsNihilo@lemmy.ca -5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] PrettyLights@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (2 children) 50% margins aren't that high for a "cutting edge" low volume product. Civic cars are high volume with an established market and consumer base. Not everything is an apples to apples comparison. I'll never buy one because I use Arch BTW, but there needs to be a profit incentive for new tech to be developed, otherwise we get rehashes of the same old same old. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] FonsNihilo@lemmy.ca -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] PrettyLights@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago I've never bought a new "cutting edge" product that's cost more then what it should, and I'm pretty into technology/computers What products specifically are you considering? But also, you mentioned Arch, so I got to ask, are pantyhose conformable? They're socks permalink fedilink source parent [–] le_saucisson_masquay@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) bill of materials” for the headset at $1,542, and that doesn’t include the costs of research and development, packaging, marketing or Apple’s profit margin. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] FoolHen@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* And the software development. I wouldn't be surprised if the total cost is close to the market price. Apple doesn't really need to make profit with this, but to create a market first. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] olympicyes@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (20 children) Unjerk for a moment. How much should something like this cost? Serious question. Seems like it can do things other devices really can’t. Saw a video yesterday from a programmer who said it could replicate an impossible physical setup. I don’t have a need for it but maybe someone else can see the value. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 20 child comments replies: [–] dodeca@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) The Apple Vision Pro supports only one 4k display for your Mac. I've seen some unreleased app dev stuff claiming to support another display, but as far as I know today there isn't any way to do it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] olympicyes@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago The one I saw was a single 5K but he was running it at standard resolution (not retina) and making the screen equivalent to 50”. He also used a couple native safari windows on either side, which helps mitigate the single screen issue. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Kolrami@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) Good question. I don't have a good source, but this one guy tried to come up with a breakdown a few months ago and in parts alone he estimated $1529. Inner and outer display including display lens: $840 Silicon content including M2 and R1 chips: $240 Sensors and cameras: $120 Battery: $18 Spatial Audio: $11 Housing, PCBS, cables, connectors, and packaging: $170 Assembly: $130 It aligns with the number in the article. The rest seems like a business decision. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] PipedLinkBot@feddit.rocks [B] 1 point 2 years ago Here is an alternative Piped link(s): one guy tried to come up with a breakdown a few months ago and in parts alone he estimated $1529 Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube. I'm open-source; check me out at GitHub. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net -1 points 2 years ago (11 children) The Quest 3 is capable of the same stuff and is only $500. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 2 years ago (3 children) Every single reviewer is saying that the quality of the VR and specially the AR blows any competition out of the water. I highly doubt your comment is true. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) The quality is better but it still does "the same stuff". A PC with a 1080p display and Nvidia 3050 does the same stuff as a 4k display and an Nvidia 4080. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] PeroBasta@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Some titles may run at higher FPS on the 3050 build XD permalink fedilink source parent [–] ferralcat@monyet.cc 1 point 2 years ago It costs 10x more. It sure as hell better do things better than the quest. permalink fedilink source parent [–] CptEnder@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (3 children) Adding the Valve Index is a another high end model that does all this and more for $1000. The big difference is the Apple's AR features permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] june@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) I’d agree with you, but the index isn’t a standalone device. Pack all the computing power into the index and the price is going to skyrocket. Edit to add: index doesn’t have eye or hand tracking. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dodeca@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) They already did, the VIVE XR Elite, and its $1000. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] june@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago What? That’s… an entirely different headset? Not even the same manufacturer. There’s also some fairly significant differences between them. The person I replied to said that the Index does all the same stuff that the Vision Pro does which is empirically incorrect. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Nyxon@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) I have both and the Quest 3 is definitely not capable of the same stuff. Kevin Sorbo and Kevin Costner are capable of the same stuff too but there is a clear difference in performance and value. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) I get the point but you could have picked at least one good actor instead of two mediocre ones. Sorbo vs Spacy. Big difference in both acting ability and how shitty they are as people. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Nyxon@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* I get your point too. Kevin Sorbo was the name that came to my head first, for some reason, and Kevin Costner followed. TBF though, Kevin Costner has won 2 Academy Awards, one for Best Director (Dances with Wolves in 1991) and has been nominated for a best actor award. He does have a long list of industry accomplishments in various roles. Kevin Sorbo doesn’t have anything close to that. I’m not a big fan of Kevin Costner but objectively speaking he is accomplished in his career. Kevin Spacey wouldn’t have been better though, with his rapey background and all that, wouldn’t feel right putting him forward as something to aspire to. Maybe Kevin Sorbo and Kevin Kline would have been a better comparison. permalink fedilink source parent [+] FonsNihilo@lemmy.ca -5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] PrettyLights@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (2 children) 50% margins aren't that high for a "cutting edge" low volume product. Civic cars are high volume with an established market and consumer base. Not everything is an apples to apples comparison. I'll never buy one because I use Arch BTW, but there needs to be a profit incentive for new tech to be developed, otherwise we get rehashes of the same old same old. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] FonsNihilo@lemmy.ca -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] PrettyLights@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago I've never bought a new "cutting edge" product that's cost more then what it should, and I'm pretty into technology/computers What products specifically are you considering? But also, you mentioned Arch, so I got to ask, are pantyhose conformable? They're socks permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dodeca@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) The Apple Vision Pro supports only one 4k display for your Mac. I've seen some unreleased app dev stuff claiming to support another display, but as far as I know today there isn't any way to do it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] olympicyes@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago The one I saw was a single 5K but he was running it at standard resolution (not retina) and making the screen equivalent to 50”. He also used a couple native safari windows on either side, which helps mitigate the single screen issue. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] olympicyes@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago The one I saw was a single 5K but he was running it at standard resolution (not retina) and making the screen equivalent to 50”. He also used a couple native safari windows on either side, which helps mitigate the single screen issue. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Kolrami@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) Good question. I don't have a good source, but this one guy tried to come up with a breakdown a few months ago and in parts alone he estimated $1529. Inner and outer display including display lens: $840 Silicon content including M2 and R1 chips: $240 Sensors and cameras: $120 Battery: $18 Spatial Audio: $11 Housing, PCBS, cables, connectors, and packaging: $170 Assembly: $130 It aligns with the number in the article. The rest seems like a business decision. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] PipedLinkBot@feddit.rocks [B] 1 point 2 years ago Here is an alternative Piped link(s): one guy tried to come up with a breakdown a few months ago and in parts alone he estimated $1529 Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube. I'm open-source; check me out at GitHub. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PipedLinkBot@feddit.rocks [B] 1 point 2 years ago Here is an alternative Piped link(s): one guy tried to come up with a breakdown a few months ago and in parts alone he estimated $1529 Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube. I'm open-source; check me out at GitHub. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net -1 points 2 years ago (11 children) The Quest 3 is capable of the same stuff and is only $500. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 2 years ago (3 children) Every single reviewer is saying that the quality of the VR and specially the AR blows any competition out of the water. I highly doubt your comment is true. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) The quality is better but it still does "the same stuff". A PC with a 1080p display and Nvidia 3050 does the same stuff as a 4k display and an Nvidia 4080. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] PeroBasta@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Some titles may run at higher FPS on the 3050 build XD permalink fedilink source parent [–] ferralcat@monyet.cc 1 point 2 years ago It costs 10x more. It sure as hell better do things better than the quest. permalink fedilink source parent [–] CptEnder@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (3 children) Adding the Valve Index is a another high end model that does all this and more for $1000. The big difference is the Apple's AR features permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] june@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) I’d agree with you, but the index isn’t a standalone device. Pack all the computing power into the index and the price is going to skyrocket. Edit to add: index doesn’t have eye or hand tracking. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dodeca@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) They already did, the VIVE XR Elite, and its $1000. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] june@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago What? That’s… an entirely different headset? Not even the same manufacturer. There’s also some fairly significant differences between them. The person I replied to said that the Index does all the same stuff that the Vision Pro does which is empirically incorrect. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Nyxon@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) I have both and the Quest 3 is definitely not capable of the same stuff. Kevin Sorbo and Kevin Costner are capable of the same stuff too but there is a clear difference in performance and value. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) I get the point but you could have picked at least one good actor instead of two mediocre ones. Sorbo vs Spacy. Big difference in both acting ability and how shitty they are as people. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Nyxon@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* I get your point too. Kevin Sorbo was the name that came to my head first, for some reason, and Kevin Costner followed. TBF though, Kevin Costner has won 2 Academy Awards, one for Best Director (Dances with Wolves in 1991) and has been nominated for a best actor award. He does have a long list of industry accomplishments in various roles. Kevin Sorbo doesn’t have anything close to that. I’m not a big fan of Kevin Costner but objectively speaking he is accomplished in his career. Kevin Spacey wouldn’t have been better though, with his rapey background and all that, wouldn’t feel right putting him forward as something to aspire to. Maybe Kevin Sorbo and Kevin Kline would have been a better comparison. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 2 years ago (3 children) Every single reviewer is saying that the quality of the VR and specially the AR blows any competition out of the water. I highly doubt your comment is true. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) The quality is better but it still does "the same stuff". A PC with a 1080p display and Nvidia 3050 does the same stuff as a 4k display and an Nvidia 4080. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] PeroBasta@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Some titles may run at higher FPS on the 3050 build XD permalink fedilink source parent [–] ferralcat@monyet.cc 1 point 2 years ago It costs 10x more. It sure as hell better do things better than the quest. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) The quality is better but it still does "the same stuff". A PC with a 1080p display and Nvidia 3050 does the same stuff as a 4k display and an Nvidia 4080. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] PeroBasta@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Some titles may run at higher FPS on the 3050 build XD permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PeroBasta@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Some titles may run at higher FPS on the 3050 build XD permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ferralcat@monyet.cc 1 point 2 years ago It costs 10x more. It sure as hell better do things better than the quest. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CptEnder@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (3 children) Adding the Valve Index is a another high end model that does all this and more for $1000. The big difference is the Apple's AR features permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] june@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) I’d agree with you, but the index isn’t a standalone device. Pack all the computing power into the index and the price is going to skyrocket. Edit to add: index doesn’t have eye or hand tracking. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dodeca@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) They already did, the VIVE XR Elite, and its $1000. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] june@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago What? That’s… an entirely different headset? Not even the same manufacturer. There’s also some fairly significant differences between them. The person I replied to said that the Index does all the same stuff that the Vision Pro does which is empirically incorrect. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] june@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) I’d agree with you, but the index isn’t a standalone device. Pack all the computing power into the index and the price is going to skyrocket. Edit to add: index doesn’t have eye or hand tracking. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dodeca@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) They already did, the VIVE XR Elite, and its $1000. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] june@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago What? That’s… an entirely different headset? Not even the same manufacturer. There’s also some fairly significant differences between them. The person I replied to said that the Index does all the same stuff that the Vision Pro does which is empirically incorrect. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dodeca@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) They already did, the VIVE XR Elite, and its $1000. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] june@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago What? That’s… an entirely different headset? Not even the same manufacturer. There’s also some fairly significant differences between them. The person I replied to said that the Index does all the same stuff that the Vision Pro does which is empirically incorrect. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] june@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago What? That’s… an entirely different headset? Not even the same manufacturer. There’s also some fairly significant differences between them. The person I replied to said that the Index does all the same stuff that the Vision Pro does which is empirically incorrect. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Nyxon@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) I have both and the Quest 3 is definitely not capable of the same stuff. Kevin Sorbo and Kevin Costner are capable of the same stuff too but there is a clear difference in performance and value. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) I get the point but you could have picked at least one good actor instead of two mediocre ones. Sorbo vs Spacy. Big difference in both acting ability and how shitty they are as people. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Nyxon@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* I get your point too. Kevin Sorbo was the name that came to my head first, for some reason, and Kevin Costner followed. TBF though, Kevin Costner has won 2 Academy Awards, one for Best Director (Dances with Wolves in 1991) and has been nominated for a best actor award. He does have a long list of industry accomplishments in various roles. Kevin Sorbo doesn’t have anything close to that. I’m not a big fan of Kevin Costner but objectively speaking he is accomplished in his career. Kevin Spacey wouldn’t have been better though, with his rapey background and all that, wouldn’t feel right putting him forward as something to aspire to. Maybe Kevin Sorbo and Kevin Kline would have been a better comparison. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) I get the point but you could have picked at least one good actor instead of two mediocre ones. Sorbo vs Spacy. Big difference in both acting ability and how shitty they are as people. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Nyxon@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* I get your point too. Kevin Sorbo was the name that came to my head first, for some reason, and Kevin Costner followed. TBF though, Kevin Costner has won 2 Academy Awards, one for Best Director (Dances with Wolves in 1991) and has been nominated for a best actor award. He does have a long list of industry accomplishments in various roles. Kevin Sorbo doesn’t have anything close to that. I’m not a big fan of Kevin Costner but objectively speaking he is accomplished in his career. Kevin Spacey wouldn’t have been better though, with his rapey background and all that, wouldn’t feel right putting him forward as something to aspire to. Maybe Kevin Sorbo and Kevin Kline would have been a better comparison. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Nyxon@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* I get your point too. Kevin Sorbo was the name that came to my head first, for some reason, and Kevin Costner followed. TBF though, Kevin Costner has won 2 Academy Awards, one for Best Director (Dances with Wolves in 1991) and has been nominated for a best actor award. He does have a long list of industry accomplishments in various roles. Kevin Sorbo doesn’t have anything close to that. I’m not a big fan of Kevin Costner but objectively speaking he is accomplished in his career. Kevin Spacey wouldn’t have been better though, with his rapey background and all that, wouldn’t feel right putting him forward as something to aspire to. Maybe Kevin Sorbo and Kevin Kline would have been a better comparison. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] FonsNihilo@lemmy.ca -5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] PrettyLights@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (2 children) 50% margins aren't that high for a "cutting edge" low volume product. Civic cars are high volume with an established market and consumer base. Not everything is an apples to apples comparison. I'll never buy one because I use Arch BTW, but there needs to be a profit incentive for new tech to be developed, otherwise we get rehashes of the same old same old. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] FonsNihilo@lemmy.ca -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] PrettyLights@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago I've never bought a new "cutting edge" product that's cost more then what it should, and I'm pretty into technology/computers What products specifically are you considering? But also, you mentioned Arch, so I got to ask, are pantyhose conformable? They're socks permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PrettyLights@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (2 children) 50% margins aren't that high for a "cutting edge" low volume product. Civic cars are high volume with an established market and consumer base. Not everything is an apples to apples comparison. I'll never buy one because I use Arch BTW, but there needs to be a profit incentive for new tech to be developed, otherwise we get rehashes of the same old same old. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] FonsNihilo@lemmy.ca -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] PrettyLights@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago I've never bought a new "cutting edge" product that's cost more then what it should, and I'm pretty into technology/computers What products specifically are you considering? But also, you mentioned Arch, so I got to ask, are pantyhose conformable? They're socks permalink fedilink source parent
[+] FonsNihilo@lemmy.ca -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] PrettyLights@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago I've never bought a new "cutting edge" product that's cost more then what it should, and I'm pretty into technology/computers What products specifically are you considering? But also, you mentioned Arch, so I got to ask, are pantyhose conformable? They're socks permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PrettyLights@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago I've never bought a new "cutting edge" product that's cost more then what it should, and I'm pretty into technology/computers What products specifically are you considering? But also, you mentioned Arch, so I got to ask, are pantyhose conformable? They're socks permalink fedilink source parent
[–] le_saucisson_masquay@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) bill of materials” for the headset at $1,542, and that doesn’t include the costs of research and development, packaging, marketing or Apple’s profit margin. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] FoolHen@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* And the software development. I wouldn't be surprised if the total cost is close to the market price. Apple doesn't really need to make profit with this, but to create a market first. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FoolHen@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* And the software development. I wouldn't be surprised if the total cost is close to the market price. Apple doesn't really need to make profit with this, but to create a market first. permalink fedilink source parent