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[โ€“] [email protected] -1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

That sound a lot like the No True Scottsman Falacy.

Every single time I've seen politicians in the Anglo-Saxon world harping all about moral liberalism, they're also the same politicians that are "relaxed about wealth" and don't really talk much about how it's wealth discrimination which inflicts the most pain and removes the opportunities for those who are the sons and daughters of those who before were pushed into poverty due to discrimination.

You can't solve the problems from past discrimination that threw people into the pit by keeping the pit going, the ladders to it up and its walls tall and near unsurmountable - if you're not talking about social mobility, the social safety net, worker rights and equal access to Justice, Education and Health independently of wealth when you're talking about discrimination, then you're just another Neolib trying to pass yourself as a leftie as there's no progress in that since you're just keeping the shackles on the descendents of the victims of discrimination (along with a whole lot of other people who just happen to have been born in the less wealty classes).

[โ€“] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago

It's not. In US politics, liberals will often try to paint themselves as progressives, but the policies they hold and the funding for their campaigns tell a very different story.

The banner carrier for the progressive movement in the US is clearly Bernie Sanders, and he doesn't pull this shit. Neither does AOC, or the rest of the "squad". Nobody in progressive media does either.

On the Republican side, it's even more obvious. Republicans have been the driving force behind the anti-BDS movement. Biden might be splitting hairs in his mixed messaging on Israel, but not the Republicans. Republicans are solidly behind Israel in their genocide of Gaza.

Of all the possible political ideologies you could single out for this in America, "progressives" would be the least accurate.