▲ 108 ▼ Welcome Yarla98 and Aidan as the new moderators for c/politics. (lemmy.world) submitted 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) by outrageousmatter@lemmy.world [M] to c/politics@lemmy.world 173 comments fedilink hide all child comments Let's welcome the new moderators of c/politics.
[–] BartsBigBugBag@lemmy.tf 12 points 3 years ago (2 children) If you have a table of 10 people, and a Nazi sits down and joins them without them kicking him out, you now have a table with 11 Nazis at it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] MomoTimeToDie@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 years ago [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent [+] aidan@lemmy.world -9 points 3 years ago (2 children) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-oV42OMQoE permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] BartsBigBugBag@lemmy.tf 7 points 3 years ago (1 child) Chomsky has some great takes on certain topics. He’s phenomenal at linguistics, and his analysis of propaganda systems in the US is paralleled only by Parenti. Unfortunately, he also holds some contradictory viewpoints to what he espouses. You cannot tolerate intolerance. Period. Having a different view is not the same as being a Nazi. It’s not merely a difference of opinion. Your right to free speech stops where my face begins. You don’t have the right to advocate for my murder, as they did in Charlottesville, and accepting that as an opinion would mean inherently abandoning the belief that human rights are universal. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] aidan@lemmy.world -2 points 3 years ago (1 child) I disagree. You can oppose a murder without murdering them. In the same way, those who oppose certain rights of others must be opposed but not persecuted, not only because they'd become a martyr- but because even though I strongly disagree their beliefs and in my opinion are clearly wrong that doesn't exactly matter to whether I can talk to them about programming over lunch. Your right to free speech stops where my face begins. What does this mean? and accepting that as an opinion would mean inherently abandoning the belief that human rights are universal. An opinion can be disgusting and abhorrent and still be an any opinion. Nazism clearly is an opinion- an abhorrent opinion that rejects human life and human rights, yet still an opinion. Just like someone can have an opinion that murdering as many people as possible is good. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) Nazism clearly is an opinion- an abhorrent opinion that rejects human life and human rights, yet still an opinion. Just like someone can have an opinion that murdering as many people as possible is good. If nazis are welcome in a community, no one else is. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] aidan@lemmy.world -3 points 3 years ago (1 child) What should be done to a nazi if they're living in your city/area/country? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) It should be made perfectly clear to nazis that they are not welcome. What should happen to a nazi if they post on this community? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] aidan@lemmy.world -3 points 3 years ago (1 child) It should be made perfectly clear to nazis that they are not welcome. Unwelcome how? If someone associates with them do they become Nazis by association? What should happen to a nazi if they post on this community? It depends what they post, just like with anyone else. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 4 points 3 years ago Unwelcome how? Well, I'd start by telling them that nazis aren't welcome. If someone associates with them do they become Nazis by association? If someone keeps voluntarily hanging out with people they know are nazis, it means that they consider the presence of nazis acceptable, and that nazis consider their presence acceptable. That doesn't sound like much else but a nazi. This excludes spies and members of underground movements and so forth who have infiltrated nazi groups under false pretenses. It also excludes fools in the late 20s and early 30s who didn't see the threat for what it was until it was too late. It depends what they post, just like with anyone else. Then as far as the moderation team is concerned, nazis are as welcome here as any other user. permalink fedilink source parent [–] PipedLinkBot@feddit.rocks [B] 3 points 3 years ago Here is an alternative Piped link(s): https://piped.video/watch?v=4-oV42OMQoE Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube. I'm open-source, check me out at GitHub. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] MomoTimeToDie@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 years ago [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] aidan@lemmy.world -9 points 3 years ago (2 children) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-oV42OMQoE permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] BartsBigBugBag@lemmy.tf 7 points 3 years ago (1 child) Chomsky has some great takes on certain topics. He’s phenomenal at linguistics, and his analysis of propaganda systems in the US is paralleled only by Parenti. Unfortunately, he also holds some contradictory viewpoints to what he espouses. You cannot tolerate intolerance. Period. Having a different view is not the same as being a Nazi. It’s not merely a difference of opinion. Your right to free speech stops where my face begins. You don’t have the right to advocate for my murder, as they did in Charlottesville, and accepting that as an opinion would mean inherently abandoning the belief that human rights are universal. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] aidan@lemmy.world -2 points 3 years ago (1 child) I disagree. You can oppose a murder without murdering them. In the same way, those who oppose certain rights of others must be opposed but not persecuted, not only because they'd become a martyr- but because even though I strongly disagree their beliefs and in my opinion are clearly wrong that doesn't exactly matter to whether I can talk to them about programming over lunch. Your right to free speech stops where my face begins. What does this mean? and accepting that as an opinion would mean inherently abandoning the belief that human rights are universal. An opinion can be disgusting and abhorrent and still be an any opinion. Nazism clearly is an opinion- an abhorrent opinion that rejects human life and human rights, yet still an opinion. Just like someone can have an opinion that murdering as many people as possible is good. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) Nazism clearly is an opinion- an abhorrent opinion that rejects human life and human rights, yet still an opinion. Just like someone can have an opinion that murdering as many people as possible is good. If nazis are welcome in a community, no one else is. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] aidan@lemmy.world -3 points 3 years ago (1 child) What should be done to a nazi if they're living in your city/area/country? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) It should be made perfectly clear to nazis that they are not welcome. What should happen to a nazi if they post on this community? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] aidan@lemmy.world -3 points 3 years ago (1 child) It should be made perfectly clear to nazis that they are not welcome. Unwelcome how? If someone associates with them do they become Nazis by association? What should happen to a nazi if they post on this community? It depends what they post, just like with anyone else. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 4 points 3 years ago Unwelcome how? Well, I'd start by telling them that nazis aren't welcome. If someone associates with them do they become Nazis by association? If someone keeps voluntarily hanging out with people they know are nazis, it means that they consider the presence of nazis acceptable, and that nazis consider their presence acceptable. That doesn't sound like much else but a nazi. This excludes spies and members of underground movements and so forth who have infiltrated nazi groups under false pretenses. It also excludes fools in the late 20s and early 30s who didn't see the threat for what it was until it was too late. It depends what they post, just like with anyone else. Then as far as the moderation team is concerned, nazis are as welcome here as any other user. permalink fedilink source parent [–] PipedLinkBot@feddit.rocks [B] 3 points 3 years ago Here is an alternative Piped link(s): https://piped.video/watch?v=4-oV42OMQoE Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube. I'm open-source, check me out at GitHub. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BartsBigBugBag@lemmy.tf 7 points 3 years ago (1 child) Chomsky has some great takes on certain topics. He’s phenomenal at linguistics, and his analysis of propaganda systems in the US is paralleled only by Parenti. Unfortunately, he also holds some contradictory viewpoints to what he espouses. You cannot tolerate intolerance. Period. Having a different view is not the same as being a Nazi. It’s not merely a difference of opinion. Your right to free speech stops where my face begins. You don’t have the right to advocate for my murder, as they did in Charlottesville, and accepting that as an opinion would mean inherently abandoning the belief that human rights are universal. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] aidan@lemmy.world -2 points 3 years ago (1 child) I disagree. You can oppose a murder without murdering them. In the same way, those who oppose certain rights of others must be opposed but not persecuted, not only because they'd become a martyr- but because even though I strongly disagree their beliefs and in my opinion are clearly wrong that doesn't exactly matter to whether I can talk to them about programming over lunch. Your right to free speech stops where my face begins. What does this mean? and accepting that as an opinion would mean inherently abandoning the belief that human rights are universal. An opinion can be disgusting and abhorrent and still be an any opinion. Nazism clearly is an opinion- an abhorrent opinion that rejects human life and human rights, yet still an opinion. Just like someone can have an opinion that murdering as many people as possible is good. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) Nazism clearly is an opinion- an abhorrent opinion that rejects human life and human rights, yet still an opinion. Just like someone can have an opinion that murdering as many people as possible is good. If nazis are welcome in a community, no one else is. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] aidan@lemmy.world -3 points 3 years ago (1 child) What should be done to a nazi if they're living in your city/area/country? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) It should be made perfectly clear to nazis that they are not welcome. What should happen to a nazi if they post on this community? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] aidan@lemmy.world -3 points 3 years ago (1 child) It should be made perfectly clear to nazis that they are not welcome. Unwelcome how? If someone associates with them do they become Nazis by association? What should happen to a nazi if they post on this community? It depends what they post, just like with anyone else. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 4 points 3 years ago Unwelcome how? Well, I'd start by telling them that nazis aren't welcome. If someone associates with them do they become Nazis by association? If someone keeps voluntarily hanging out with people they know are nazis, it means that they consider the presence of nazis acceptable, and that nazis consider their presence acceptable. That doesn't sound like much else but a nazi. This excludes spies and members of underground movements and so forth who have infiltrated nazi groups under false pretenses. It also excludes fools in the late 20s and early 30s who didn't see the threat for what it was until it was too late. It depends what they post, just like with anyone else. Then as far as the moderation team is concerned, nazis are as welcome here as any other user. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] aidan@lemmy.world -2 points 3 years ago (1 child) I disagree. You can oppose a murder without murdering them. In the same way, those who oppose certain rights of others must be opposed but not persecuted, not only because they'd become a martyr- but because even though I strongly disagree their beliefs and in my opinion are clearly wrong that doesn't exactly matter to whether I can talk to them about programming over lunch. Your right to free speech stops where my face begins. What does this mean? and accepting that as an opinion would mean inherently abandoning the belief that human rights are universal. An opinion can be disgusting and abhorrent and still be an any opinion. Nazism clearly is an opinion- an abhorrent opinion that rejects human life and human rights, yet still an opinion. Just like someone can have an opinion that murdering as many people as possible is good. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) Nazism clearly is an opinion- an abhorrent opinion that rejects human life and human rights, yet still an opinion. Just like someone can have an opinion that murdering as many people as possible is good. If nazis are welcome in a community, no one else is. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] aidan@lemmy.world -3 points 3 years ago (1 child) What should be done to a nazi if they're living in your city/area/country? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) It should be made perfectly clear to nazis that they are not welcome. What should happen to a nazi if they post on this community? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] aidan@lemmy.world -3 points 3 years ago (1 child) It should be made perfectly clear to nazis that they are not welcome. Unwelcome how? If someone associates with them do they become Nazis by association? What should happen to a nazi if they post on this community? It depends what they post, just like with anyone else. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 4 points 3 years ago Unwelcome how? Well, I'd start by telling them that nazis aren't welcome. If someone associates with them do they become Nazis by association? If someone keeps voluntarily hanging out with people they know are nazis, it means that they consider the presence of nazis acceptable, and that nazis consider their presence acceptable. That doesn't sound like much else but a nazi. This excludes spies and members of underground movements and so forth who have infiltrated nazi groups under false pretenses. It also excludes fools in the late 20s and early 30s who didn't see the threat for what it was until it was too late. It depends what they post, just like with anyone else. Then as far as the moderation team is concerned, nazis are as welcome here as any other user. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) Nazism clearly is an opinion- an abhorrent opinion that rejects human life and human rights, yet still an opinion. Just like someone can have an opinion that murdering as many people as possible is good. If nazis are welcome in a community, no one else is. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] aidan@lemmy.world -3 points 3 years ago (1 child) What should be done to a nazi if they're living in your city/area/country? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) It should be made perfectly clear to nazis that they are not welcome. What should happen to a nazi if they post on this community? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] aidan@lemmy.world -3 points 3 years ago (1 child) It should be made perfectly clear to nazis that they are not welcome. Unwelcome how? If someone associates with them do they become Nazis by association? What should happen to a nazi if they post on this community? It depends what they post, just like with anyone else. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 4 points 3 years ago Unwelcome how? Well, I'd start by telling them that nazis aren't welcome. If someone associates with them do they become Nazis by association? If someone keeps voluntarily hanging out with people they know are nazis, it means that they consider the presence of nazis acceptable, and that nazis consider their presence acceptable. That doesn't sound like much else but a nazi. This excludes spies and members of underground movements and so forth who have infiltrated nazi groups under false pretenses. It also excludes fools in the late 20s and early 30s who didn't see the threat for what it was until it was too late. It depends what they post, just like with anyone else. Then as far as the moderation team is concerned, nazis are as welcome here as any other user. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] aidan@lemmy.world -3 points 3 years ago (1 child) What should be done to a nazi if they're living in your city/area/country? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) It should be made perfectly clear to nazis that they are not welcome. What should happen to a nazi if they post on this community? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] aidan@lemmy.world -3 points 3 years ago (1 child) It should be made perfectly clear to nazis that they are not welcome. Unwelcome how? If someone associates with them do they become Nazis by association? What should happen to a nazi if they post on this community? It depends what they post, just like with anyone else. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 4 points 3 years ago Unwelcome how? Well, I'd start by telling them that nazis aren't welcome. If someone associates with them do they become Nazis by association? If someone keeps voluntarily hanging out with people they know are nazis, it means that they consider the presence of nazis acceptable, and that nazis consider their presence acceptable. That doesn't sound like much else but a nazi. This excludes spies and members of underground movements and so forth who have infiltrated nazi groups under false pretenses. It also excludes fools in the late 20s and early 30s who didn't see the threat for what it was until it was too late. It depends what they post, just like with anyone else. Then as far as the moderation team is concerned, nazis are as welcome here as any other user. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) It should be made perfectly clear to nazis that they are not welcome. What should happen to a nazi if they post on this community? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] aidan@lemmy.world -3 points 3 years ago (1 child) It should be made perfectly clear to nazis that they are not welcome. Unwelcome how? If someone associates with them do they become Nazis by association? What should happen to a nazi if they post on this community? It depends what they post, just like with anyone else. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 4 points 3 years ago Unwelcome how? Well, I'd start by telling them that nazis aren't welcome. If someone associates with them do they become Nazis by association? If someone keeps voluntarily hanging out with people they know are nazis, it means that they consider the presence of nazis acceptable, and that nazis consider their presence acceptable. That doesn't sound like much else but a nazi. This excludes spies and members of underground movements and so forth who have infiltrated nazi groups under false pretenses. It also excludes fools in the late 20s and early 30s who didn't see the threat for what it was until it was too late. It depends what they post, just like with anyone else. Then as far as the moderation team is concerned, nazis are as welcome here as any other user. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] aidan@lemmy.world -3 points 3 years ago (1 child) It should be made perfectly clear to nazis that they are not welcome. Unwelcome how? If someone associates with them do they become Nazis by association? What should happen to a nazi if they post on this community? It depends what they post, just like with anyone else. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 4 points 3 years ago Unwelcome how? Well, I'd start by telling them that nazis aren't welcome. If someone associates with them do they become Nazis by association? If someone keeps voluntarily hanging out with people they know are nazis, it means that they consider the presence of nazis acceptable, and that nazis consider their presence acceptable. That doesn't sound like much else but a nazi. This excludes spies and members of underground movements and so forth who have infiltrated nazi groups under false pretenses. It also excludes fools in the late 20s and early 30s who didn't see the threat for what it was until it was too late. It depends what they post, just like with anyone else. Then as far as the moderation team is concerned, nazis are as welcome here as any other user. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 4 points 3 years ago Unwelcome how? Well, I'd start by telling them that nazis aren't welcome. If someone associates with them do they become Nazis by association? If someone keeps voluntarily hanging out with people they know are nazis, it means that they consider the presence of nazis acceptable, and that nazis consider their presence acceptable. That doesn't sound like much else but a nazi. This excludes spies and members of underground movements and so forth who have infiltrated nazi groups under false pretenses. It also excludes fools in the late 20s and early 30s who didn't see the threat for what it was until it was too late. It depends what they post, just like with anyone else. Then as far as the moderation team is concerned, nazis are as welcome here as any other user. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PipedLinkBot@feddit.rocks [B] 3 points 3 years ago Here is an alternative Piped link(s): https://piped.video/watch?v=4-oV42OMQoE Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube. I'm open-source, check me out at GitHub. permalink fedilink source parent