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[–] [email protected] 141 points 8 months ago (5 children)

He has delivered the largest economic recovery plan since Roosevelt, the largest infrastructure plan since Eisenhower, the most judges confirmed since Kennedy, the second-largest healthcare bill since Johnson, and the largest climate change bill in history.

[–] [email protected] 111 points 8 months ago (2 children)

and none of it matters because the other side thinks the work of government is to do as little as possible for the people it fleeces.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 8 months ago (1 children)

And their propaganda has been so good for the last 60 years that even half the left believes it but think they're immune to it. See motions to every thread in Lemmy

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Upvotes? Oh, yeah, that tracks.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago (2 children)

The ones I know think it’s a scheme to bring minority immigrants in and pay them welfare to vote for democrats so they can “destroy us from within” and bring about a worldwide socialist government.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

I prefer a worldwide New World Order but you take what you can get.

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[–] [email protected] 99 points 8 months ago (21 children)

And yet the quality of life for Americans is still declining, while the wealth gap keeps growing.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yep, and a bunch of the things Biden supporters want to tout are making this problem worse, because his economic legislation and climate legislation and healthcare legislation and all the rest is almost entirely just throwing taxpayer money at businesses and hoping it trickles down to us somehow

[–] [email protected] 20 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago

If at first you don't succeed, give businesses more money and try again.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago (3 children)

I would argue the quality has been improving as if late. But kind of hard to blame him for the fact that the world was gripped and massively disrupted a by a pandemic and the financial moves by the fed to stave off an even worse financial melt down led to high inflation. But we're going in the right direction, even if it isn't fast enough for some people.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Wages aren't keeping up with inflation for most people. The wage increases reported are mostly driven by top earners. It isn't moving at the bottom. Longer lines than ever at food pantries. I remember when Democrats used to at least pretend to give a shit about that stuff.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago (10 children)

Wages aren't keeping up with inflation for most people.

Been that way for a long time bud

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Nothing new happens under the sun.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago (3 children)

This has been a decades long problem that he has contributed to over his entire career.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Research constantly points to things getting worse, especially for younger generations. At best you could say the rate of decline has slowed somewhat recently.

And it’s unfair to blame it on the pandemic, the trends been going on for much longer.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago (2 children)

That would all make it even less his fault tho...

[–] [email protected] 17 points 8 months ago (7 children)

It's not his fault it happened, it's his fault he's not doing enough to fix it. He campaigned on the status quo, yet the status quo is the problem.

Fundamental change needs to happen.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago
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[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

He's been in politics for like half a century.

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 8 months ago (5 children)

Given the congress he has to work with, one could argue he's been a better President than Obama was.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

He's been a better president than Obama was.

It's not particularly close in my opinion.

I'm hella biased, but the SAVE plan and not accruing interest on student loans as long as you make payments is a huge win.

There's no reason they couldn't have done this under Obama....

Edit: just wanted to mention that this restructuring for student loans had absolutely nothing to do with Congress

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The SAVE plan and the rules around PSLF really do make medical school a lot more viable for people like me. Doctors get paid a pittance in residency, and the interest on medical school loans would add up really fast on the old income-driven repayment plans.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Trust me I fully understand.

I went to med school, finished back in 2018.

If I never step foot into a hospital again it'll be too soon.

I work from home now as a cloud engineer for a large US-based mortgage company.

I'm very happy now. I've already made my piece that my $350,000 in loans can only be solved by making minimum payments for 20 years.

All that being said, a lot of people are in a different boat than myself.

Their loans are much more manageable and I'm really glad they'll be able to pay them off because interest isn't accruing.

Who knows? I make enough now that I'm actually going to have to sit down and calculate whether it's worth it to pay the loans off myself or just make minimum payments for 20 years and have the rest forgiven.

The SAVE plan and interest no longer recruiting is the only reason these possibilities are there.

Otherwise I'd have to resign myself to making 20 years of minimum payments and hoping that forgiveness plan is still in place.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I agree too. Obama had charisma and was a great speaker, but policy wise Biden is much better.

If Obama was firmer many current problems would not exist today. But it is easier to say now.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Obama had charisma and was a great speaker,

And as we're seeing now with Biden's poll numbers, unfortunately, that's all that matters. Doesn't matter how many good things you do to help people, all that matters is whether you have charisma and a good media relations team.

People are so stupid. Maybe democracy was a mistake.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Maybe democracy was a mistake.

It probably works fine if the majority of your population doesn't have either CTE from your sports programs, lead poisoning, or something above an 8th grade education.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

Weird, I never see Record oil extraction on his list of accomplishments, I wonder why that is? 🤔

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Adjusted for inflation?