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[–] [email protected] 375 points 9 months ago (6 children)

If buying isn't ownership then pirating isn't stealing

[–] [email protected] 132 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Oh but it's not buying! The big "Buy" or "Purchase" button might have said so, but if you'd have careful read through 35 pages of user agreements, you'd see that you only rent the license to stream it.

Which obviously is total bullshit and the whole fucking system should be burned to the ground.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago

This is precisely why I refuse to buy digital games. (And it extends to other media, but games are where I actually spend money)

I’ll pay for a rental service designed to be a rental service (ps+, for example) but will not buy individual games digitally. Who knows when they will become unavailable for some reason, and I can no longer download a copy. It’s bad enough when servers are shut down within 2 years of launch, but when the whole game gets pulled, then what?

I’ve decided I’m not even bothering with the next generation of consoles. So few things are even released on disc, with half the consoles being digital only, that it’s not even worth it. I’ll pirate instead.

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 9 months ago (160 children)

Pirating isn't stealing either way.

Also, copyright infringement never even used to ever be a crime, although now there is a form of criminal copyright infringement, if it's done for money or if the value is above a certain amount. Thanks to lobbying from wealthy industries. Most copyright infringement still is not a crime, though.

The reason industries lobby for harsher copyright laws is because they know they can make more money if people can't pirate. They take the piss with their pricing, but they're acutely aware that if they take the piss too much then people will turn to piracy. By prohibiting piracy and levying harsh penalties they can get away with even more unfair pricing, and maybe even profit from piracy through punitive damages (which is mainly a US thing, most sensible nations only allow you to sue for actual damages).

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 9 months ago (99 children)

Licensing isn't ownership, and pirating isn't stealing, it's copyright infringement.

[–] [email protected] 79 points 9 months ago (30 children)

The previous comment is more like shorthand, rather than literal truth.

It's faster to say piracy isn't stealing if purchasing isn't ownership than it is to say "if a company can simply reverse a permanent access license at any time then pirating media from them is perfectly ethical and should not be considered a crime"

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 9 months ago

Infringe me harder daddy ©👄©

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