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Glasses as ableism is a massive stretch, it’s not like it’s 5 inch thick frames. What a strange thing to attack.
But I feel like he’s not “fat” for no reason(that’s hardly a morbidly stereotypical depiction like right wing memes like to use, that’s moderately overweight at best). But because it’s a common problem for those who are extremely sedentary, as those who are terminally online are, to develop weight problems due to their lifestyle.
This isn’t making fun of him for being fat either, it’s saying that he’s spending so much time online that he’s probably neglecting to care for himself, as exercise and healthy eating is a vital part of self care and hygiene.
In every meme, not just from op, there is a fat, evil character who always wears glasses. Curious isn't it? Neglecting to take care of yourself is literally the first sign of mental illness. You people will never understand that using those things to mock someone is simply wrong...
Do you know who wisconscom is? He's not a 'character', and he's probably beyond help anyways!
https://lemmygrad.ml/post/931938 this is the guy I'm talking about.
My point is that any meme depicting a bad person will always depict him as fat and a glasses wearer. It’s not just you who do this.
Every meme? The guy drew two?
So you’re saying that every single person should always be drawn without any variation? No differentiating character traits, no character traits that can be perceived as negative in any way?
The meme is not mocking him for being fat. Being fatphobic is wrong and going out of your way to insult someone’s weight is strange and terrible, but demonstrating that an extremely sedentary lifestyle will usually have negative consequences on a person isn’t a slight.
Also we have no idea what Wiscom looks like, you can draw him however you like. It’s not like there’s a massive arrow pointing at him saying THIS IS A FAT LOSER, or something overtly hostile like that. And for the record, that is not even that fat. He didn’t draw him as a 400 pound stereotypically rotund neck beard.
Also what does having glasses have anything to do with this? Again, I struggle to see how this is mocking or making fun of him for having glasses, other than the fact he simply has them. Anyone can have glasses, no matter how you look.
Dude you are not understanding what I'm saying. In memes,NOT JUST OP, almost all of them depict a bad person who is fat and wears glasses. You are pushing a bad stereotype… the so-called “neck beard”
My end question is simply. So? This is a semantics argument and has absolutely no meaning whatsoever. Its a complete non-issue.
"Almost all of them" is a massive exaggeration as well, and that is absolutely not true. There are many standard "negative" meme standards.
uhh..you are a typical man, an awful one.
Thanks for the direct insult, you don't even know that I'm a man anyways. Do you not realize that you yourself have just made a stereotypical remark and attack? “Typical man”, what’s that supposed to mean? Please tell me without making it seem like a broad generalization.
Also great to know that I'm a horrible person for agreeing with you that fatphobia is bad, but helicopter patrolling every single little things you don't like is absurd. Especially when its completely inane and unrelated. Why should everything bend to your tastes?
There is enough information about you for me to consider you a bad person
Good to know. Getting upset at a random drawing of a not even fat individual is a complete non-issue to attack someone over, you are the only one who has made this an issue.
Because I’m the only one here with morals..
You are also the only one here attacking others with personal insults. Calling people immoral and terrible people over an absurd disagreement is itself strange.
People with bad morals should be “insulted”. You are confusing politeness with morals.
You are confusing your pedantic comments for righteousness.
You are simply stirring the pot for reactions, which itself says quite a lot. Have a good day.
Men, due to their inherent drive to dominate, always have bad morals. “Toxic masculinity” is redundant, all masculinity is toxic.
Wow, straight derogatory stereotyping, that’s disgusting. Imagine decrying stereotyping and attacks over generalizations, and then resorting to that yourself.
That is horrible. You should be ashamed. You are the toxicity to claim you are opposed to, not some made up enemy in your head.
If gender is a social construct, then the gender that has proven itself many times to be unable to live with others should disappear. The qualities that make the ”men” masculine are always dangerous. Compassion comes from being feminine.
You are a very sad individual. I hope you receive the help that you need, and that you continue to educate yourself to see how horribly and disgustingly wrong you are.
I would expect these types of takes from very young, unprincipled, or ultra liberal feminists on Twitter. Not a principled communist.
Goodbye.
Here is a joke for ya to end this conversation. Do you know what to call a man with good morals? A homosexual.. 🙂
I’m gay. My sexuality isn’t some joke to affirm your horrible, derogatory, piece of shit views.
Your @ is pretty spot on. I can see why you chose it.
Ok some gays are bad 🙂
Thanks for the homophobia.
Lol that's not homophobic..It was "sexist" tho ;)
That was very homophobic.