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Listen, this user is a terminally online anarchist who complains about tankies and calls Stalin genocidal. But shes correct about this one. Mostly. I mean using the term "bedtime abolition" sounds dumb but Im pretty sure she only did that because its a common joke about anarchists. The core point is about how 9-5 work schedules dont work for everyone. As an ND person who struggles with culturally normal sleep schedules, I absolutely agree that society needs to accomodate these things. I absolutely agree that its literally normal talk everyone says that work schedules suck.

People saying "just go to bed on time" or "just pop a melatonin" have never been in the position of trying to do that and failing, just laying awake for hours until you finally fall asleep two hours before you need to be up.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It's "bad framing" because bedtime isn't the actual problem. If your child needs to be at school at 8am, is perfectly reasonable to have them go to bed at a time that allows them to get enough sleep (potentially). Of course people will dunk on you for "bedtime abolition".

So it's a bad person making a bad argument, why should I pay attention?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Because reforming society to adapt to different sleep schedules is the anti-abliest position.

And that actually includes school.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Ok. If I'm a parent and my child's school requires them to attend at 8am, what do I do?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Give them a bedtime lol. Noones asking for this problem to be solved by individuals.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago
[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Organize with other parents to advocate for a later start time.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

And in the meantime?