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Listen, this user is a terminally online anarchist who complains about tankies and calls Stalin genocidal. But shes correct about this one. Mostly. I mean using the term "bedtime abolition" sounds dumb but Im pretty sure she only did that because its a common joke about anarchists. The core point is about how 9-5 work schedules dont work for everyone. As an ND person who struggles with culturally normal sleep schedules, I absolutely agree that society needs to accomodate these things. I absolutely agree that its literally normal talk everyone says that work schedules suck.

People saying "just go to bed on time" or "just pop a melatonin" have never been in the position of trying to do that and failing, just laying awake for hours until you finally fall asleep two hours before you need to be up.

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 10 months ago (2 children)

The making fun of the western 13 year old "anarkiddie" trying to abolish bedtimes is in no way the same argument as someone actively taking about how workers are forced to work unpleasant or unreasonable hours. These are completely unrelated topics. The latter is something I've heard plenty of anarchists actually discuss, as they actually care about worker's rights. The former is just a kid mad at their parents.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, "abolish bedtimes" is used for folks whose knowledge of anarchism begins and ends at "rules bad." It's derisive shorthand for saying someone is calling themselves an anarchist but hasn't engaged with anarchist literature (on topics like when hierarchy or rules can be justified, for example).

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

This is kind of how I always thought about it too. Like it’s a jokey epithet for people with an immature, unsophisticated, lifestylist sort of vaguely “anarchist” politics. Was very confused to come in here and see serious political discussion about bedtimes.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

this is a largely imaginary figure that you nevertheless find useful to avoid meeting anarchist ideas on their own terms. just like anti-communists who don't oppose more rights for workers, they just don't agree with those crazy tankies who want everyone to get the same haircut.